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[Russell Storey]

 


Hi Lads                              Sunday, 18 October 2020
 
Have been  using JRiver   on and off  since  Version 17  ,      I  recently  upgraded   from  MC  22   to  MC  27

I am not Software  engineer or    Computer  nerd   but  do like  simple easy to use programs with good easy to read  Visual graphics  .
 
I was playing  back  a  series  of  2Ch   Music  tracks (songs ) and concerts      and  noticed   one music     track  was  distorting severely

 I found  there is   no  QUICK   way    ( visually )      Monitoring   if    your  sound   signal   is     over driving ( clipping )    or  if    you have accidentally  turned up the  Level  to high
and over driving your computer  and /  or  the    external  Amplifier


 # the DSP  Studio   Analyzer  is  fine   but is no good for   visual   L&R   Level   Monitoring   

With  Level meters   you can instantly   " see " on the Fly  "   if its a  poor recording  or you  have set   your master  Levels   to high  for play back

 # So  , J river   technical  department  ,
 
 What about a face lift   ,  a  NEW  look with      J river  MC 27   , stereo   Digital  sound  level  meters   for at the top of the Screen  for Sound     Monitoring   ??  option   

Option  1    =  is existing  L&R   Spectrum    level display   for   "   multi channel and stereo  sound   "
 
Option 2    =   Stereo   Digital   level  Meters   for  Music  Or  Movie    2Ch   or   2Ch downmix   playback   
 
 Meter range     say      0dBFS.  to  - 70 dBFS.     L & R     ( Led  -  Horizontal  bar graph with   2db  segments  )

#   where   0dBFS.      =     J River System   ,  ' Digital Zero "  system   reference  ( maximum level  )   

# When working with 24-bit digital systems, it makes absolute sense to maintain a very similar gain structure and headroom, for both technical and operational convenience.
 That means building in typically about 20dB of headroom above the nominal signal level, with most peaks reaching no higher than about -10dBFS     

Q. What are the reference levels in digital audio systems?   see  >   https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-what-are-reference-levels-digital-audio-systems

 Kind Regards                 
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio              ( Australia  )       
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants 

http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
 

 

[mark_h]

In the meantime, if you have access to any monitoring VSTs you can load them in to JRiver and use them as you wish.

[Russell Storey]

Hi Mark

Would you  believe  ,  This is  the very first  post I have  every posted  on the internet .. period  ..   
 
I am  69 years old   Audio /Acoustic  Engineer  that designs     high end  speakers and speaker transducers   

 I   and not a computer software  or social media   expert  /  nor do I want to be ..

I simply   want  JRiver  management   to consider  this   very   handy   visual    Add   on  feature / upgrade/option    for its  Audio /Video   customers /clients    .. 

Can you forward  my letter  on to  the JRiver program  department manager  for consideration  please  .

 so I can get some feedback  . 

FYI , See  my links below   

Kind Regards                 
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio              ( Australia  )       0266 793059
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants 

http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
http://stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/nakamichi.htm
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/ribbon_speaker_kit/ribbon_speaker_kit_info.htm
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Kind Regards                 
Russell Storey
Stones Sound Studio              ( Australia  )       0266 793059
Audio & Acoustic Engineering Consultants 

http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/
http://stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/nakamichi.htm
http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/ribbon_speaker_kit/ribbon_speaker_kit_info.htm
htm

[wer]

Russell, what Mark means is that JRiver does not have this functionality built in because you can add it using VST plugins.  In any case, there is no need to forward your request, as the developers read these forums.

VST plugins are software modules, provided by independent third parties, sometimes for free, that do these sorts of things. Once you add a VST plugin to JRiver Media Center, you can see and access it inside the JRiver interface.

You might do a google search for VST plugins to make yourself familiar. Maybe search for "vst plugin level meter".

But don't worry, I'm sending another Australian to help you!

[struct]

I have never loaded a VST plug-in so was curious to try.  This might help get you what you want....

Get the VST file you like...
1. This one looks like it might be similar to your VU meter (just copy into your browser)  https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/mvmeter2.html
2. Click on download mvMeter2 link (about half way down the screen)
3. On this new page, look through the list for mvMeter2 (it is near the bottom of the first list/table)
4. Download the file for your PC/Mac (there is also a manual)
5. After download, install the program.  During the install, it will tell you where it is putting the VST files.  Keep a screenshot for later loading in JRiver (there is a program called snipping tool already on your PC, if using Win10), or just write down.

Now, to get JRiver to use this...
In JRiver
1. Open DSP studio (Player>DSP Studio...).
2. Select "Manage Plug-ins...">"Add JRiver, VST, or Winamp Plug-in..."  (or just press Ctrl-D)
3. When the "Select Plug-in File" window appears, navigate to the .vst3 file in the VST folder structure above and select the desired .vst3 file. Select "Open".  In the bottom right, you need to use the drop down menu to choose vst3 type files, and not .dll files for this plugin.  Other plugins may be different.
On my PC this file was in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\TBProAudio  (if you have a 32bit windows version, you may need to look in the other folders listed previously)

Job is done.  Leave the DSP studio open and go and press play.  You should see the meter move around.  I didn't read the manual, but there are lots of options in the plugin, just click on the various words around the meter and you can change the colours, size, type of meter, etc.  I have been behaving a lot more like my teenager these days and just keep clicking on stuff instead of reading manuals, seems to be faster.

Write back if you need more help.

[JimH]

...  I have been behaving a lot more like my teenager these days and just keep clicking on stuff instead of reading manuals, seems to be faster.

I learned that from a 19 year-old whiz kid programmer about 25 years ago.  He just checked every corner of the program before beginning to use it.  I was amazed how quickly he learned it.

Charlie Shopsin was his name and his family had a fairly famous little restaurant in Manhattan.  He was one of the best I've ever worked with.

Thanks for the writeup.

[David Sydney]

Excellent eye candy thank you!!

Any way to leave the DSP window without borders like the video display, or to shrink it down? Or even have plug ins displayed elsewhere instead of having DSP open as it prevents using other controls? Maybe in future releases?