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AGAWA

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How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« on: March 28, 2021, 12:08:16 pm »

I'm trying to figure out how to split  SACD .ISO to have separate 2CH and separate MCH entries.
Is there a way to make a copy of a disc  within library, rename as necassary (add 2ch and MCH in the album name respectively), and delete 2CH or MCH tracks.
So they show up as Album 2CH, Album MCH ?

Such copy function would be very useful.

Any other solution to the problem?

I want to stick to one copy only of .ISO file on NAS
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2021, 12:23:45 pm »

You could use an app like sacd_extract or ISO2DSD to extract DSF files from the SACD ISO files for both stereo and multichannel. This is what I personally do with my SACDs.
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 01:11:10 pm »

I would like to keep one copy of .ISO file, and play 2CH or MCH directly from ISO.
But how to make them visible in library as separate entities?
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2021, 09:48:42 am »

I would like to keep one copy of .ISO file, and play 2CH or MCH directly from ISO.
But how to make them visible in library as separate entities?
If you are using the NAS as a file server (not DLNA server) the SACD iso's will appear as separate tracks.
This is an example from my Macbook.

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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 12:54:50 pm »

created 2 views under Audio:
DSD MCH
2 rules:
file type = SACD
channels >2
list only MCH

DSD 2CH
2 rules:
file type = SACD
channels =2
list only 2CH

and now I have them separately.
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2021, 01:55:59 pm »

Here is the way to split each Multichannel SACD ISO into 2 different albums in the album list.
If you have a multichannel SACD ISO album called "My Album" with 28 tracks, after you've done the following steps you will get:
- One album called "My Album" with the 14 stereo tracks numbered 1 to 14
- One album called "My Album - Surround" with the 14 multichannel tracks numbered 15 to 28

Here are the steps:

1) Go to Tools / Options / Library & Folders, and choose "Manage Library Fields"

At the bottom left of the window, click "Add New Field"
Type the following field name in the popup:  "Album Name"

The Display field should be "Album Name"
The Display (plural) field should be "Album Names"
Set the Flags field to "Audio" only
Then select the "Calculated Data" option and in the Expression field, copy/paste the following:
Code: [Select]
[Album] if( isequal( [Channels],2, 5), - Surround,)Then click OK.

You just created a new Field called "Album Name", which is the same as the standard "Album" field, with the - Surround suffix added for multichannel tracks.

2) Right click your Audio/Albums view on the Left panel, and choose "Customise View"

In the "Show categories in this order" list, remove the "Album" category, and add the new "Album Name" category that we created in step 1.
Then click OK and validate if JRiver warns for modifying the default view.

3) Select the Audio/Albums view you just modified

At the top of the view, you should see "Album Names" with a small arrow pointing downward.
Click the Arrow, and choose "List Style / Details"
You can see all your columns for your albums
Right-click one of the column headers, remove the "Album" column, and add the "Album Name" column if not already selected.

Done !
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2021, 02:09:44 pm »

You can also do the same for JREMOTE. The following has been tested with JREMOTE for iPad. This also works with JREMOTE for iPhone, but the Album name might not fit the display in portrait mode, and you might not see the - Surround suffix.

(Note to the Administrator: We really need a way to choose the font size, or allow multiline labels in JREMOTE !!!!)

1) Go to Tools / Options / Library & Folders, and choose "Manage Library Fields"

At the bottom left of the window, click "Add New Field"
Type the following field name in the popup:  "JRemote Album"
Display: "JRemote Album"
Display (plural): "JRemote Albums"
Flags: "Audio"

Then select the "Calculated Data" option and in the Expression field, copy/paste the following:
Code: [Select]
[Album Artist (auto)] - [Album] if(isempty([Date]),,/([Date]/)) if( isequal( [Channels],2, 5), - Surround,)
Click OK.

You just created a new field called "JRemote Album" that shows the album artist, the album name, the (date) if filled, and the optional " - Surround" suffix.

2) Go to Tools / Options / Media Network / Advanced, and choose "Customise views for JRemote..."

Select the Audio / Album category on the left panel
In the "Show categories in this order" list, remove the "Album" category, and add the new "JRemote Album" category that we created in step 1.
Then click OK twice to return to the main JRiver window.

3) You HAVE TO restart JRemote and JRiver

On your iPhone / iPad, KILL the JRemote app using Task Manager.
On your Mac / PC, quit the JRiver app, and once done restart JRiver.
On your iPhone / iPad, re-launch JREMOTE, and reconnect to your JRiver server.
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2021, 08:33:21 pm »

You can also do the same for JREMOTE. The following has been tested with JREMOTE for iPad. This also works with JREMOTE for iPhone, but the Album name might not fit the display in portrait mode, and you might not see the - Surround suffix.

(Note to the Administrator: We really need a way to choose the font size, or allow multiline labels in JREMOTE !!!!)

1) Go to Tools / Options / Library & Folders, and choose "Manage Library Fields"

At the bottom left of the window, click "Add New Field"
Type the following field name in the popup:  "JRemote Album"
Display: "JRemote Album"
Display (plural): "JRemote Albums"
Flags: "Audio"

Then select the "Calculated Data" option and in the Expression field, copy/paste the following:
Code: [Select]
[Album Artist (auto)] - [Album] if(isempty([Date]),,/([Date]/)) if( isequal( [Channels],2, 5), - Surround,)
Click OK.

You just created a new field called "JRemote Album" that shows the album artist, the album name, the (date) if filled, and the optional " - Surround" suffix.

2) Go to Tools / Options / Media Network / Advanced, and choose "Customise views for JRemote..."

Select the Audio / Album category on the left panel
In the "Show categories in this order" list, remove the "Album" category, and add the new "JRemote Album" category that we created in step 1.
Then click OK twice to return to the main JRiver window.

3) You HAVE TO restart JRemote and JRiver

On your iPhone / iPad, KILL the JRemote app using Task Manager.
On your Mac / PC, quit the JRiver app, and once done restart JRiver.
On your iPhone / iPad, re-launch JREMOTE, and reconnect to your JRiver server.
Fantastic, thanks for posting this. I'll be using it right away.
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Re: How to split SACD .ISO so they show up as separete entties?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2021, 06:13:56 pm »

I just found a better solution for the Audio/Albums view

My previous solution to create an "Album Name" category has a problem in case you have several albums with the same name.
For example, I had "Goldfrapp - Supernature", and "Cerrone - Supernature", and unfortunately the "Album Name" category mixes both albums...

A better way to do the same is to Edit the Audio/Albums view (or create a new view).
- In the Show Categories in this order, add a single Category
- Choose Expression as the Category Type

In the Expression to group by field, copy/paste the following:
Code: [Select]
[Album Artist (auto)] [Album]  if( isequal( [Channels],2, 5), - Surround,)
In the Expression to display field, copy/paste the following:
Code: [Select]
[Album, 1] if( isequal( [Channels, 1],2, 5), - Surround,)
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