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[enea.aurel]

Hey JRiver,can you fix the Touch screen keyboard?If i try to search for a song the touchscreen keyboard is not coming on automatically!The other things are working ok like Chrome,folders,etc!

Thanks

[JimH]

Please be more specific.  I don't know where you are.

[enea.aurel]

If i try to search something in JRiver, the touchscreen keyboard is not coming on automatically.

[enea.aurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKwSaffzado

[enea.aurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoNLaB4m-nc

[Matt]

They might only show the keyboard when known edit type controls are focused.

You could ask them to add the JRiver classes.  They're custom since we do the rendering ourselves.

They can write me (matt at jriver) if they need help.

Thanks.

[enea.aurel]

You could ask them,ask who??

[Matt]

You could ask them,ask who??

The makers of the keyboard software.

[enea.aurel]

keyboard software??This is windows 11!Microsoft?But with all other programms like spotify,explorer,tidal,etc is just fine,only with JRiver i got this problem.

[Awesome Donkey]

Yeah, gotta admit this was annoying to encounter when I was using a Windows tablet and the on-screen keyboard wasn't popping up. I understand what the issue here is; if you use a Windows-based tablet or a touchscreen device like a Surface Tablet in tablet mode without a physical keyboard, Windows will pop up a on-screen touchscreen keyboard that the user can use (like a mobile device like a phone or tablet can). The problem is MC isn't causing the on-screen keyboard to pop up like most other apps do. That's what the videos above are showing here.

It's likely also going to be next to impossible to have Microsoft add support for the MC classes to get the on-screen keyboard to pop up unfortunately in Windows 10 or 11, and would likely have to be addressed/supported in MC itself, IMO. I'm not sure if there's any special API or anything to get the keyboard to pop up and work, a quick search didn't really yield anything.

[enea.aurel]

Ok,got it.

[Matt]

If anybody can find a way to tell the software it should show the keyboard in a custom control, please share.  Thanks.

[leezer3]

If my digging around is correct, this is what I can only describe as a mess- There's no actual kernel call to do this, which is nuts, but probably chimes with the general state of accessibility- an afterthought....

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50410958/having-trouble-showing-and-hiding-the-windows-10-on-screen-keyboard-osk-exe
Full solution then links to here:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50510093/using-windows-10-on-screen-keyboard-in-qt-app/50510526#50510526

[Awesome Donkey]

It's probably going to be hard to test/develop for this unless a dev has a Windows tablet handy. Improving MC use on a touchscreen Windows device could be pretty appealing, I know when I was using a Windows tablet whenever I used MC I had to connect a mouse and keyboard for best results as trying to use MC's standard view via touchscreen was a bit of a pain. In the end I can see why using an old iOS/Android phone, or a iPad, Android tablet, etc. running JRemote for iOS, JRemote2 for Android, MO 4Media, Panel, Gizmo, etc. is appealing as a controlling for a system like the OP seems to be doing. Windows tablet, not so much...

I will offer a somewhat workaround to enea.aurel for using MC on a Windows tablet, and that's controlling MC in a web browser via Panel. Basically, enable media network, then with MC open (and minimized) open Panel in a web browser, in Panel's settings set the Play to zone from Here to Player, and you'll be able to navigate and control MC that way. You should be able to use the on-screen keyboard and everything this way. Yeah, it's a little complicated and cumbersome having to do this, but it does work in the end.

[Matt]

Thanks leezer3!  I'll play with that a little bit and see what comes out the other end.

[Matt]

This build has support:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,136889.0.html

[enea.aurel]

No,still not working, but thanks anyways.

[Matt]

No,still not working, but thanks anyways.

What happens when you turn the on screen keyboard on in MC's options?  We're trying to launch the system keyboard with that enabled when you focus something like the search box.  It's working on my Windows 11 system.

[enea.aurel]

Screen keyboard on in MC's options?Where s that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-F35IKqlI

[Matt]

Options > General > Advanced > Show the on screen keyboard

[enea.aurel]

Yes now is shows up but i think is not the windows keyboard,but is good like this too,thank you very much

[enea.aurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/O680w41EWyE?si=9Rjtxhlze0GtPPq6

[Awesome Donkey]

Finally found some more information about this. I believe the one that's used now (osk.exe) is the older Windows on-screen keyboard from like the Windows Vista or 7 or 8.1 days. However, some further research on this has found out the executable used for the Windows 10 and 11's touch keyboard is TabTip.exe.

Found some good info about how it works from multiple links:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58747008/how-to-open-the-tablet-mode-on-screen-keyboard-in-c
https://superuser.com/questions/1720607/open-touch-keyboard-via-command
https://medium.com/@boutnaru/the-windows-process-journey-tabtip-exe-touch-keyboard-and-handwriting-panel-1436a6b7cf9a
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/tablet/programming-the-text-input-panel
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/peninputpanel/nn-peninputpanel-itextinputpanel

Manually launching TabTip.exe does indeed launch the Windows 10/11 touch keyboard. Though after manually launching it and closing it, the TabTip.exe process is still running and I have to manually kill it to run it again. Might be something to keep in mind there.

[Matt]

Thanks Awesome Donkey.  We'll try to use that new executable when we can find it.  Cheers.