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Dennis in FL

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Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« on: October 24, 2023, 03:57:43 pm »

I just updated to Bookworm from Bullseye.   It takes a long time to go through the paces but after the upgrade, Media Center works fine on the new OS

I don't have a display on my PI4 as I use Vnc viewer.   

I have a PI5 on order and will test it out when I get it.   
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2023, 04:07:47 pm »


I just updated to Bookworm from Bullseye.   It takes a long time to go through the paces but Media Center works fine on the new OS

I don't have a display on my PI4 as I use Vnc viewer.   

I have a PI5 on order and will test it out when I get it.   
Looking to get one for testing. Where did you order from?
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2023, 04:10:22 pm »

Looking to get one for testing. Where did you order from?

https://www.pishop.us/
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2023, 08:18:35 am »

Looking to get one for testing. Where did you order from?

I'm not thrilled with the decisions they made on the Pi5. Loss of hardware accelerated H.264 decoding is a big downgrade.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2023, 02:10:47 pm »

Looking to get one for testing. Where did you order from?


CanaKit is now taking preorders as well

https://www.canakit.com/
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2024, 11:44:35 am »

I finally got my first one to test.
On first look, the IdPi bookworm distribution needs updating to run on it.

I'm somewhat mystified by the Raspberry Pi OS official distribution.
It runs kernel8 by default. That's the one used for a Pi 4, Pi 3, etc 64 bit kernel.
I download kernel 2712 which is supposedly specifically for the Pi 5's new hardware features and reboot.
It crashes on boot with a page alignment fault on libresolv.
I don't get why it's an option to create an unbootable system.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2024, 11:50:49 am »

Is all of the Pi 5 kernel support upstreamed in 6.7 yet? I remember some phoronix articles on it but can't remember if everything is there yet.

I think the gap has officially closed between the Intel E-cores and "high-end" ARM. Rather just pay $100 for an N100 fanless x86 box than deal with Pi 5 cooling, ARM, hardware decoding limitations, slow OS rollouts, etc. And this is coming from someone that owns like 5 ARM boards.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2024, 12:26:31 pm »

A potential alternative to Raspberry Pi OS would likely be Armbian, which comes in both Debian Bookworm and Ubuntu Jammy variants: https://www.armbian.com/rpi5b/

I think the gap has officially closed between the Intel E-cores and "high-end" ARM. Rather just pay $100 for an N100 fanless x86 box than deal with Pi 5 cooling, ARM, hardware decoding limitations, slow OS rollouts, etc. And this is coming from someone that owns like 5 ARM boards.

Yeah, gotta agree. I've been using a Orange Pi 5B (which as far as I know is still a little ahead of a Raspberry Pi 5 in terms of overall performance) and I've been considering getting a little fanless N200 box with 32GB of RAM and replacing the Orange Pi 5B that runs MC31 with that. I could also consolidate and retire my two other Raspberry Pis (one runs AdGuard Home, the other runs Emby Server) into the N200 too with plenty of resources to spare to run MC31, Emby Server and AdGuard Home all on one device.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2024, 12:35:54 pm »

Something like this?
http://tinyurl.com/4rrhcb96

Never played with these before. Sort of like cheap NUCS it seems.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2024, 03:17:59 pm »

Something like this?
http://tinyurl.com/4rrhcb96

Never played with these before. Sort of like cheap NUCS it seems.

Yes basically, that one's just a bit dated. You can search for N95, N100/105, N200/205, i3-N305 mini pcs on aliexpress and get a thousand different form factors and options. I prefer the ones with multiple i226 2.5GbE ethernet ports, either for bonding or extending a network, and an aluminum case for better fanless heat dissipation. There are different TDPs between the variants, the chips ending with "5" are a little higher TDP so better for bursty HTPC or office use, while the "0" variants are better for always-on appliances like NAS and routers.
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2024, 01:07:19 pm »

I just pulled the trigger on a N305 with 16GB of DDR5 and two I226-V 2.5Gb ports off AliExpress and I'll be replacing/consolidating my Orange Pi 5B and Raspberry Pi 4s into one device. For the price ($340 with tax) it's a no-brainer, plus it comes with Windows 11 pre-installed. I'll probably dual boot it with Ubuntu, of course. ;D
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Re: Bullseye to Bookworm Update and MC Works
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2024, 09:24:15 pm »

I just pulled the trigger on a N305 with 16GB of DDR5 and two I226-V 2.5Gb ports off AliExpress and I'll be replacing/consolidating my Orange Pi 5B and Raspberry Pi 4s into one device. For the price ($340 with tax) it's a no-brainer, plus it comes with Windows 11 pre-installed. I'll probably dual boot it with Ubuntu, of course. ;D

One thing to be aware of is that Aliexpress mini pcs tend to use poorly binned RAM and SSD components to make their margins. I haven't had an issue with the RAM but I've had two no-name SSDs fail and generate all sorts of strange and infuriating errors. Now I always buy them barebone and purchase my own RAM/SSD from reputable US vendors.
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