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JimH

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NEW: Faster and More Thorough Upgrade
« on: January 18, 2024, 02:40:27 am »

When you install MC32 for the first time, it will search for a library first from MC31, then MC30, and so on, until it finds one.  The previous method searched from the oldest version forward, so this method is faster.

Linux and Mac will also now do upgrades from previous versions automatically, instead of requiring backups to be restored manually.

We will support restoring a backup from a foreign OS in the near future, so you'll be able to restore a Windows backup on Mac, for instance.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2024, 02:45:59 am »

this sounds like why one of my clients loaded a v old and wrong backup

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it will search for backups from MC31, MC30, and so on, until it finds one.
can you clarify the rules used here? I could compare to my setup, it might explain where the bug is
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2024, 03:16:02 am »

It checks for libraries from most recent to oldest, instead of the other way around.

Your client libraries may not be what you think they are.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2024, 03:45:42 am »

As previously reported, MC backups for a client are poorly handled because you can't backup a client settings without first disconnecting from the server by loading a local library and then backing up.

In my case, I did the following

* Load local library
* Take new backup (which goes to a long standing selected location on a shared drive)
* Load server
* Run mc32 installer
" It automatically loaded some ancient backup from an unknown location

I then had to switch to a local library again, load the backup from the usual location (didn't have to pick this, it knew the folder) and then load the server again

Mc32 definitely got this wrong, there's clearly a bug here. it could ask something like "found backup in xxxx, use it or select something else?" to avoid such problems
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2024, 04:11:21 am »

It doesn't use backups, but rather the library from an older version of MC, if its still installed. This shouldn't have fundamentally changed, except that a few bugs were fixed and improvements made - as well as extending similar function to Mac and Linux.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2024, 04:23:17 am »

Looks like it's caused by being connected to a server. I let the team know to look into this.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2024, 06:51:14 am »

I just had a successful upgrade. Being cautious, I closed Media Server 31 first.

Maybe the install routine should automatically close Media Server before beginning.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2024, 04:51:15 pm »

Just completed the upgrade process. It was great! 2 recommendations:


1. Include the C:\Program Files\J River\Media Center XX\Data\Tooltip folder. I have some icons in here from the Customized Tooltip and Theater Views configurations from way back that I've been too lazy to convert, and I just like them as they are. :)


2. After installation, maybe prompt to uninstall the version it upgraded from? Just thought.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2024, 11:16:50 am »

How does this feature work with a portable installation? 
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2024, 10:24:42 pm »

I agree it would be nice to have an option to remove the previous version.  I usually assume it has been removed, and find later that I need to go back and clean up the previous versions.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2024, 02:47:42 pm »

another thing that didn't go smoothly

* on reboot, both MC31 and MC32 started up
* on uninstall of MC31, it uninstalled the WDM driver
* on MC32 reinstalling the WDM driver, the UI hung.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2024, 10:51:01 am »

Looks like it's caused by being connected to a server. I let the team know to look into this.
When I installed v32, the installer did not find the library on a NAS that v31 was using.
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Re: NEW: Faster Upgrade
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2024, 01:13:14 am »

As previously reported, MC backups for a client are poorly handled because you can't backup a client settings without first disconnecting from the server by loading a local library and then backing up.

I've raised this before. I have a main "server" installation of MC in my study where all the FLACs are stored and 4 client installs around the house on mini PCs and a laptop.

The scheduled backups work well on the server, but the clients have settings for EQ etc. that are specific to the rooms in which they are located. These get tweaked from time to time so a manual backup has to be done as mattkhan describes.

The background backups that happen on a schedule for the server run fine, but the same kind of scheduled backups for the settings on all clients should be implemented as a priority IMO.
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Re: NEW: Faster and More Thorough Upgrade
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2024, 09:22:15 am »

- my library was gone (had to back up library from 30 and restore it on 32 🤷‍♂️)

- all of my shows covers, each season series cover are gone 🤷‍♂️

the last one is quite painful, not sure i will restore of all them by hand :(

also, looks like 32 has a new layout of the ui, which was blown away when i had to restore my library :(
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Re: NEW: Faster and More Thorough Upgrade
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2024, 02:34:45 pm »

lboregard,
What OS?

When you restore a library, MC will ask if you want to restore settings.  Maybe you missed that step.
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Re: NEW: Faster and More Thorough Upgrade
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2024, 04:26:56 pm »

this was on windows 11

in any case, i was doing an upgrade from jriver 30 to jriver 32

the upgrade process left me with an empty library, so i had to go for a restore from the 30 library

not sure if it asked the question about settings, i think it did and i think i said yes
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Re: NEW: Faster and More Thorough Upgrade
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2024, 04:52:33 pm »

Could you try restoring again?  You could save your current library as a backup first if you want to return to it.
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