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kritike24

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So i am constantly adding music to my library....all my new music is in a folder and then when i run an import on jriver it looks at the specified folders where the new music is and then transfers them to their respected locations.

for example, all my american music 320kbps goes to a folder completed music and then when i run import i have it watch this folder and then it imports all of the sub folders to c:/music in in artist album song format.

is there a better way to do this? if you need me to provide screenshots how i have it setup maybe that makes more sense?
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haggis999

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So i am constantly adding music to my library....all my new music is in a folder and then when i run an import on jriver it looks at the specified folders where the new music is and then transfers them to their respected locations.


If you have ripped CDs or downloaded music files outside MC, then you have already chosen the physical locations on your hard drive(s). Subsequently importing that music into MC does not change those locations. It merely adds those files to the MC database, where subsequent organisation is controlled by your metadata settings.
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My process is to put all new albums in a folder named "import". Have Media Center import that folder so I can tag them.

I edit the tags so all of the names and my custom fields are filled in properly. Add cover art. Etc.

Then I run the files through the big Rename, Move, & Copy Files dialog to move the files to my NAS.

I have custom directory naming rules and file naming rules that create the directory structure I like on the NAS. So all the albums and artists are organized in a way I like. The Expression Language allows me to create some custom rules that do what I want. And I take advantage of that. It's the Expression Language that gives this process the power and customization.

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Expression_Language


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kritike24

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so i kind of do something similar....

all the files are on my nas to begin with. i open them up in mp3tag edit them there and then move them to a completed folder and then run import. this is one of the many completed folders.. see below
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haggis999

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I import new media files via Drives & Devices, not Library > Import, so am not an expert on that process, but your entry in the 'Apply these tags' section doesn't look like any of the examples quoted in https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Tag_on_Import.

Does "Filename (path):\\192.168.0.124\DriveD2\Music\[Artist]\[Album]" actually move your imported media files to that new location?
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kritike24

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it does, it moves it to the music folder takes the artist in question put its in that artist folder and then put its from the album tag...

ie. if i have a folder in completed called iron maiden and a sub folder fear of the dark (artist and album) when i run the import it imports this folder to database then moves it to the iron maiden folder in the music folder and then puts fear of the dark as sub folder
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kritike24

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I guess what i am looking for is the same idea, in a simpler manner possibly..... but the other issue is some of the files from the completed folders' sub folders mp3s or flacs dont transfer over....

i would like to do everything i am doing now but all in jriver in one shot. basically able to import music from a folder do all the tagging in jriver and then transfer to the folders.... unless i do this i make new folders like the scheme i have now. so i have 4 folders where the final files move to after being tagged and transferred by jriver. they are greek music, music, flac music, and flac greek.

maybe going forward i should keep those as is and make 4 more with the same names but with new, put all the new music in the folder it matches and then just tag in jriver and not worry about moving files to those original folders?

i got very used to keeping things organized, where follows as this folder-artist-album-track....so for me to now just have all this new music thrown in a folder (even though it will be organized as i want within jriver) is throwing me off.

any feedback is greatly appreciated. also, i use mp3tag to remove all the tags on mp3s so it is just id3v2.3 the flac files i leave as is and just make changes to the artist genre etc.
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haggis999

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it does, it moves it to the music folder takes the artist in question put its in that artist folder and then put its from the album tag...

ie. if i have a folder in completed called iron maiden and a sub folder fear of the dark (artist and album) when i run the import it imports this folder to database then moves it to the iron maiden folder in the music folder and then puts fear of the dark as sub folder

I never cease to be amazed by the depth of MC's capabilities :)

..... but the other issue is some of the files from the completed folders' sub folders mp3s or flacs dont transfer over....

If you provide more details about the files that fail to transfer during your import process, someone might be able to tell you how to fix that.

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i would like to do everything i am doing now but all in jriver in one shot. basically able to import music from a folder do all the tagging in jriver and then transfer to the folders.... unless i do this i make new folders like the scheme i have now. so i have 4 folders where the final files move to after being tagged and transferred by jriver. they are greek music, music, flac music, and flac greek.

maybe going forward i should keep those as is and make 4 more with the same names but with new, put all the new music in the folder it matches and then just tag in jriver and not worry about moving files to those original folders?

i got very used to keeping things organized, where follows as this folder-artist-album-track....so for me to now just have all this new music thrown in a folder (even though it will be organized as i want within jriver) is throwing me off.

I guess English is not your first language and I'm struggling to understand what you mean here. Please try again to clarify your question.

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kritike24

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sorry, was in a rush......

this is my current process

there are files in competed which i then open in mp3tag, i remove tags on all files so that i only have id3 v2.3 tags on all files.

i make my artist album genre adjustments in mp3tag and save the files. i then move to the folder that i told jriver to import from. jriver imports to database and then moves to the main music folder in artist and album format.

is there a simpler way to do this and can it all be done in jriver?

My other question was, should i just put all the music in a new folder have jriver watch that folder to import and not move the files? all this is happening on my nas already.

what i was doing and am currently doing, is trying to keep things organize from outside of jriver.

when i open jriver my files will be organized, but if i am looking just through directory then everything is all over the place in one folder
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i would like to do everything i am doing now but all in jriver in one shot. basically able to import music from a folder do all the tagging in jriver and then transfer to the folders.... unless i do this i make new folders like the scheme i have now. so i have 4 folders where the final files move to after being tagged and transferred by jriver. they are greek music, music, flac music, and flac greek.

I also have a directory tree structure that groups certain types and styles of music together.

What I did to accomplish that is create a custom field (tag) within Media Center. Call that new field something like "FOLDER_LOCATION".

That "FOLDER_LOCATION" field will be set to what folder that album belongs in.

In your case the FOLDER_LOCATION tag for the entire album would be set to Greek Music, Music, FLAC Music, or FLAC Greek.

Then use the value of that tag to set the name of that folder in your directory name rule in Media Center.

So your directory naming rule in Media Center would be something like "[Folder Location]\[Album Artist (auto)]\[Album]" plus an expression to account for Disc # for multi-disc albums. Otherwise multidisc albums will end up all in the same folder which gets confusing.

So I would use a directory naming expression more like "[Folder Location]\[Album Artist (auto)]\[Album]IfElse( !IsEmpty( [Disc #], 1 ), -PadNumber([Disc #],2))" to add the Disc # to the folder name if there is a Disc #.

Using "Album Artist (auto)" instead of just "Artist" will also help group the albums together better. Otherwise albums with multiple artists will end up in multiple folders and that's a mess.

MC has great tools and features to add custom fields (custom tags).
Tools >> Options... >> Library & Folders >> Manage Library Fields...

You can create custom fields (tags) that get saved to the files. Once those fields are written to the file they can also be read and edited in Mp3Tag (you'll have to go to "File >> Options.. >> Tag Panel" to add the new custom tag to Mp3Tag, but it very much can edit and display custom tags created in MC).

I would also suggest using the Rename, Move, & Copy Files dialog in MC to move and copy files you import to MC, instead of relying on the way the Auto Import is able to move files as it imports. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" dialog is much more powerful and includes an option for "Move all non-imported files in folder with selected media files". Which will copy over all other other files you have in the album folder, including log files, txt files, pdf files, jpg files, png files, and other files that should be copied over to the same folder that the album track files are. The Auto Import method does not do that. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" method can do that. The "Rename, Move, & Copy Files" dialog is the better way to move the files to your directory tree structure.

And before playing with any of these file moving suggestions. Do a mirror style backup of all of your music files to another hard drive. So you have a fresh backup. And then when trying any new move or copy rules in MC do a test on a few albums first to see if it works as you expect. Then try again on a few more albums before trying the new rules on the entire library. But most importantly, please have a current full backup of your music files on another drive before experimenting with these kinds of renaming and moving rules.
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kritike24

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yeap that is what i was afraid of lol.. i have to do some expirementing with what you suggested. will do but not for some time, hopefully soon tho. once i do it ill report back thanks a ton!!
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