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mrwul

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FileRenaming
« on: May 01, 2004, 07:11:51 am »

Am afraid what I am looking for is impossible. I touched the subject already on earlier occassions.

I want the tag-info to read:
Composer: Chopin, Frédéric
Artist       : Mamikonian, Vardan

But the filename to read:
Chopin-Mamikonian- etc.

I guess the only way is:
change tag info, rename file from properties, and change back tag-info
(except for a lot of fuzz by changing text strings using find and replace
in filenames).

Anybody out there has a solution??

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2004, 08:11:31 am »

Not sure my solution is much better when it comes to elegance. Another thought is to create a few more fields:
composer first name
composer last name
artist first name
artist last name

Then set the rename from props to what you want. I figure you've already considered this one. I can't think of a way to only pick part of the field in the replacement.

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2004, 09:15:30 am »

wulffra,

At last time I tried to answer your question, but you didn't come back with a better explanation for your wish to do that.

I tried to ask why you have to include so much information in the filenames. The information is already kept in the tags and in my opinion it's enough if the files on disk can be indentified by unique filenames e.g. just "Album_Track#".

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=20971

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2004, 09:35:11 am »

It might also be a better practice if you continue the thread you already started, instead of starting a new thread a week after. It's more polite towards those who already answered and others can see the earlier discussion. I don't mind, but somebody else might.  :)
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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2004, 09:43:27 am »

groovedaddy's solution seems perfect. You could also add a calculated field for Composer that was
[ComposerLastName], [ComposerFirstName]
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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2004, 04:10:58 am »

Alex - sorry - you are right - actually I forgot to tag the notify of replies box, so I assumed there were no replies at all.
Over the last couple of days I have checked out upto 10 major ("5-star") MP3 tag and rename utilities: if MC can't do what I want, maybe some other app can.
Actually virtually none of them support "Composer" to rename filenames with, some even don't show Composer in the selected columns.

I found 1 utility that offered a 'file rename string' option.

Users cud add "Before/After' boxes clicking on 'Add'.

Maybe this idea should be further developed ??

Within MC there is only 1 option (I know of): find and replace.

Maybe a separate file-rename module?

When launched:
- show selected file names (full length..!)
  (in a window that is horizontally splitted up in 2 parts, viz:
  old filenames/preview new files)
- a 'before' and 'after' box
- an add/delete-button
- a preview and apply button

before-box                              after-box
Leos Janacek - A Recollection           A Recollection


Using copy-paste of text-strings.

It is just a very 'rough' idea...

All in all it is about renaming files but not changing ID3 tag info
and being able to copy-paste textstrings and get a preview.

Groovedaddy: thank you for your solution!!
It helps a lot already...  (didnot know about this feature).
It's fine.

That aside: I guess though my 'file-renamer'-thing may add some extra flexibility.

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2004, 10:15:51 am »

Not sure my solution is much better when it comes to elegance. Another thought is to create a few more fields:
composer first name
composer last name
artist first name
artist last name

Then set the rename from props to what you want. I figure you've already considered this one. I can't think of a way to only pick part of the field in the replacement.

GDaddy

I have done this (introduced 2 new fields, composerLN and ArtistLN)
and went thru a session of entering composer/artist LastName of a few thousand files.
It is alright - except ...
when copying files to another location\directory, and selecting that directory using MC, these 2 columns remain empty ....  ?
Clicking on MediaLibrary the columns are filled though.
Wish to select  a different temp-dir to do the renaming there b4 messing things up.

Any idea??

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2004, 05:36:09 am »

I have done this (introduced 2 new fields, composerLN and ArtistLN)
and went thru a session of entering composer/artist LastName of a few thousand files.
It is alright - except ...
when copying files to another location\directory, and selecting that directory using MC, these 2 columns remain empty ....  ?
Clicking on MediaLibrary the columns are filled though.
Wish to select  a different temp-dir to do the renaming there b4 messing things up.

Any idea??

rgds
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I'm not sure why you want to move the files to temp directory. Do you plan to return them to the same directory when you're finished? I do a "rename files from properties" on all of my files and nothing blows up (though just make sure you're using the latest build of MC - 127 - in order to avoid a known bug).

If you want to have a field of the composer's or artist's full name, create a calculated field as cjdshaw suggests.

Like I always tell my kids, don't make things harder than they have to be 8)

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2004, 12:17:55 pm »

Actually I wanted to see what happens before messing things
up. Also I wanted to update the filenames using a file-renamer:
find-replace lengthy strings. Preferrably in a save 'temp'-dir.

As for the fields: they were 'general'.  I changed it into a calculated
field, though I donot know what difference it'll make...  ?

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2004, 12:45:50 pm »

Have been think a bit more about this multi-part  file-renamesection
(as previously described).


When launched a window wud pop up, that is horizontally splitted into 3 parts:
- top panel to show the current - selected! - full length file names
- the middle panel to show a preview
- bottom panel: a before box and an after box
- an add/delete-button
- a preview and apply button

like:
before-box                               after-box
Leos Janacek - A Recollection          A Recollection
The London Philharmonic Orchestra      London Philh.Orch.

[Add]  [Delete] [Preview] [Apply] [Cancel] [Undo]


Users shd be able to copy-paste of text-strings from the full filenames in the top section.
By clicking on the Add buttom a next before+after box show up, users can add a 2nd
thing that has to be renamed (see above example).
A max. of 3 before-after boxes.

When applying, the program should sequentially handle the renaming, first the 1st b4-after combo then the 2nd, then the 3rd.
The undo-buttom wud reďnstate stepwise the old situation, i.e. clicking on undo once (in the
above example) wud rename-back London Phil.Orch. to the full name The London Philharmonic Orchestra.

Personally I guess it is quite a nice idea...

The idea came into my mind when re-naming a LOT of files

e.g.

from:
Frederic Chopin - Vladimir Ashkenazy - Frederic Chopin - Waltzes & Nocturnes - 01 - Waltz in E flat Major 'Grande valse brillante', Op.18.mp3

to:
Chopin-Ashkenazy-Chopin-Waltzes&Nocturnes -01- Waltz in E flat Major 'Grande valse brillante', Op.18.mp3

Hope a developer will have a look at the idea.

Again just a rough idea only.

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Re:FileRenaming
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2004, 12:41:33 pm »


Hope a developer will have a look at the idea.

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I am afraid not ... :'( :'(
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