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jroyale

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Remote Control - Gyration
« on: November 14, 2007, 07:55:31 am »

I have a gyration wireless keyboard and mouse that came with an ir receiver.  It appears as though there is no plug-in for this in the remote setup.  Is there any work around for this?  I have a harmony 880 that will work well with this but I just need an IR receiver that talks to MC.

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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 04:14:02 pm »

Media Center works well with a keyboard and mouse, like any other software.  No drivers or plugins should be needed, save for the standard Windows keyboard and mouse driver.

We don't have IR reciever support for Gyration.  Their software (or Girder) can talk to us, as Media Center has a rich automation language.

Media Center also supports some Girder input plugins, although support is limited.
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 09:16:02 pm »

I'll be able to map the keyboard keys to my universal remote and do it that way.  Do you have an area that shows you key bindings?
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 11:24:02 am »

Hi, anyone get the MCE keys (My Video, My Music, My Picitures) working with MC from the PC channel? These are suppose to be standard MCE maps but MC doesn't recognize them. I tried mapping the keyboard shortcuts in the resources.xml but that didn't work.  I have been on Tech support with Gyration and they can offer no help. Even worse, I thought I could learn the keys from my Hauppauge on one of the IR channels but the remote has a limit of 14 keys so it runs out of memory if you want to map all the keys including the numerics.
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 01:35:38 pm »

Hi, anyone get the MCE keys (My Video, My Music, My Picitures) working with MC from the PC channel? These are suppose to be standard MCE maps but MC doesn't recognize them. I tried mapping the keyboard shortcuts in the resources.xml but that didn't work.

You map the MC12 shortcuts to match the "standard" shortcuts for Audio, Video and Image as they are in MS MC (don't know what they are)? Does it still not work?
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2007, 11:27:44 am »

They still do not work in the PC RF/USB channel but they work using the Hauppauge IR receiver. Got the shortcuts from another post on this forum that takes you to the green button site.

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/35326.aspx

To go to top level menus for
My TV CTRL+SHIFT+T
My Music CTRL+M
My Videos CTRL+E
My Pictures CTRL+I

I put the following in my Resources.xml in the custom resources folder for custom command MCC_THEATER_VIEW,

     <!-- Use MCE TV Home Ctrl;Shift;t for Playing Now  -->
   <Entry Key="Ctrl;Shift;t" Command="22001" Param="2" Global="1" />   
   <Entry Key="Ctrl;m" Command="22001" Param="3" Global="1" />   
   <Entry Key="Ctrl;i" Command="22001" Param="4" Global="1" />   
   <Entry Key="Ctrl;e" Command="22001" Param="5" Global="1" />

Still doesn't work when I select the PC channel. The keyboard short cut works and I set my Hauppaunge INI to recognize these for MC and they work fine learning them to the other channels on IR for the remote.

Should this work through the RF/USB receiver? Do you have them working?

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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2007, 04:58:55 pm »

I'm not sure if it should work or not. I just presumed that the remote was sending signal that simulated keyboard shortcuts. And should therefor work in MC12 as well, when the MCE shortcuts have been set in the xml file (I have no idea really, but it seems logical to me...)

How does it work on the harmony? Is it a program there who translates the signals? You have to manually set some key strokes/short cuts for the MS MC to work? If so, we might have a big problem configuring the Gyration.
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2007, 05:15:04 pm »

For Harmony and the Hauppauge IR is being received by the IRMan.exe and executes the commands in the associated ini config file. Same thing when I learn the buttons on the Gyration the signals are being received by the Hauppauge receiver and IRMan.exe that comes with the tuner and remote.

I can not get the RF on the Gyration to send commands for all the buttons to MC even when I map the keyboard shortcuts.

I do not have MCE I am running XP Pro without MCE and there may be a driver I can get from MS that will convert the singnals to Keyboard Shortcuts that MCE uses. I haven't had a chance to look there yet. I saw on your other post and on greenbutton that it seems to work fine with XP MCE
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 01:55:41 pm »

you may want to try these

NOTE1: To get the MCE K'Board & Remote to work on XP you need to install a particular MS Hot Patch (WindowsXP-KB912024-v2-x86-ENU - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=B39D53F1-0AC9-433B-B488-4CAB82F31DC8&displaylang=en ) that was part of MCE Rollup II and you then just plug in the IR receiver and it all just works. 

NOTE2: One trick is the MS Keyboard/RC use a "debounce" feature that you need to turn off in the registry if you are going to program a third party universal remote control as each key press on the MCE Remote / K'B sends alternative IR signals to prevent so called bounce but I've never had the problem.  You can turn this off inside WinMedCenter on Vista or search in the registry for "debounce"

Thanks
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Re: Remote Control - Gyration
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2007, 10:09:40 am »

I did try this procedure for it and does not work. It is helpful to know it works with XP and the MCE remote.

I guess you have to have the MCE remote receiver to get the driver to load. I plan to play with it a bit to see if there is a way to point the Gyration remote to the drivers loaded by this procedure w/o loading Hip. There is a procedure to get Hip to work by pointing the MCE remote to a new driver and if it works for that maybe it will work with/o hip. I may try Hip anyway since it is free.
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