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MerlinWerks

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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2010, 08:54:53 am »

Any idea if and when the ID will incorporate S/PDIF?

What DAC is used in the ID?

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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2010, 09:23:41 pm »

A picture of the board is attached.  The final board may be different.  It is about 3 inches square and about 1/2 an inch thick (wireless radio).

I'll post here when I know more about availability.  Thanks for your interest.

Thank you for the picture!! that helps, I am so looking forward to picking one of these up!
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2010, 11:16:01 pm »

Where can I get the mug, or does it come with the device?
An excellent idea  ;D

What DAC is used in the ID?
My guess is its < $1 or good enough to be used in CE.

This device has to do more than just output music.

By the response this thread has so far, most think this is just so convenient.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2010, 07:25:52 am »

this would be a great device, couple of suggestions:

1) has a 1W standby, and can wake up via magic packet or something similar
2) has a 12v switching output so that it can be used to activate the external amp etc. (already there I think from reading posts)

I'm trying to achieve something similar at present using bluetooth.
Got a couple of bluetooth audio recievers hooked up to amps, and set up as zones in MC.
playback to a single zone and computer fine, but no joy yet with two at once, lots of cutting out but this could be due to my old bluetooth dongle not enough bandwidth, ordered a new EDR one to see if I can get two zones to work.
Then if it does just need to wait for or find a stack that supports multiple bluetooth radios to get more zones.

When can I get hold of one of these as alpha testing, so I can dump my bluetooth project!!!!!!





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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2010, 11:45:15 am »

Update: Got new dongle $3, now have 2 bluetooth zones ($15 for the bluetooth audio receiver)  and 1 on the computer (Don't know how many bluetooth zones I can get off one EDR dongle, 7 is the theoretical limit but BT bandwith will prob. stop this)

A cheap solution though  $3 for the dongle+computer for first zone and $15 per zone + amp and speakers!!

Still would like to get hold of the new devices when there are available, but I though this cheap idea might be of use to someone..
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2010, 03:12:31 am »

This device looks almost perfect. One question... does it have IR and a remote? I really like the ability to play/pause and skip a track with a simple IR remote. I can do this now with my squeezebox, but it has other issues (which is why I find this intriguing).

I'm playing with a WD TV Live right now as a renderer and when it's acting as a renderer it rejects play/pause, etc. Is it a deficiency in the DLNA/UPNP protocol or is this device dependent?
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2010, 03:52:31 am »

Just a follow up to my previous post. If I press stop on the WD TV Live when it's being controlled by Media Center it stops the current song, which then causes Media Center to play the next song. I guess that's kind of a poor man's skip. I still can't pause or select the previous song of course.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2010, 02:50:20 am »

Jim,
     Any idea of the release date of these devices, I'm in the states May was hopeing to pick one up..
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2010, 02:13:28 pm »







More Pictures

Wireless Network 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi

24bit / 196KHz Audio DAC (ES9022 / CS4350)

MP3, WMA, WAV, AAC, FLAC

Ease linked up to Wi-Fi Router by WPS key

USB port support Windows Connect Now and USB switch for WCN setup

RCA Left and Right Jacks

DLNA 1.5 compliant Digital Media Renderer, works with Digital Media Controller and Digital Media Server

12V, 1A AC/DC Universal Adapter

Retail under $85 to $95 (plus shipping from Minneapolis).  Expected June 10, 2010 release.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2010, 12:45:31 am »

Looks like a cute little unit. Any mounting holes for neat wall attachment?
It's going to be hard to decide between a few of these and a few WDTV Lives, which handle video too. The wifi feature isn't necessary for me.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2010, 10:17:42 am »

No mounting holes, but it's pretty light so velcro would work.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2010, 11:01:57 am »

Thanks, Jim. I've just thought of the perfect application for this device, so i'll take one at least. We play white noise for our baby while putting her to bed and any time she's asleep, including all night. She's attracted to screens, especially touchscreens, so when she's awake, she'll play with the equipment. She's already destroyed the dock of my Axim! I just bought a cheapo 4 GB mp3 player, but it's a pain changing batteries/recharging batteries every night - I neglected to check that there was no AC capability.
The ID will be perfect as it's small, light, no big shiny screens or buttons. I could just attach a pair of PC speakers and control playing white noise, or anything else in her room via DLNA. SOLD!
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2010, 11:05:39 am »

I'd replace long RCA cable runs to my garage and pool patio with these.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2010, 03:51:50 pm »

I'm really excited about this as well.  I'm going to pick one up for home and probably another for the office.  The idea of a battery-pack built into one of these, maybe with a slightly different form-factor, is also quite appealing.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2010, 02:54:15 pm »

We're open for business with The JRiver ID.

We expect to receive our first shipment in about 6 weeks.  We're taking orders now.

The initial price is roughly $79 plus shipping.  Shipping is about $10 in the U.S. and $20 outside the U.S.

We guarantee they will work with MC15, or your money back.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2010, 02:42:54 am »

FYI - Just signed up to buy an ID.  We have one of those house intercom systems where you can page people room to room, but it also has the ability to pipe music from the main console to each of the room stations (stuck with the crappy little speakers however).  I plan to hook the ID up to this input as a Zone in MC, so that anyone can control music playback over this system.

Thanks
Nathan

Jim - FYI on the purchase process, it looks like you are purchasing a Licence (you even get an invalid MJR file, serial # and the std e-mail on how to restore you licence)!
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2010, 02:46:54 am »

Quick Q - the specs says it supports MP3, FLAC, AAC, WMA, WAV.  Does that include WMA Lossless (much of my library is in this)?
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2010, 07:09:31 am »

Thanks for the order.  I'm not sure about lossless WMA.  MC could convert to WAV or FLAC though.
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2010, 10:12:39 pm »

Bump

Half way through May.... updates?


...sorry, didn't see there was page 2...
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Re: Imaginary Device
« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2010, 06:07:51 am »

Cool Device!  Is it possible to connect headphones (ipod earbuds) directly to the audio out of the unit or is it the wrong audio level for direct connection.  i.e. does it have to go to an amplifier first?  I am thinking of buying one for help to sleep music.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2010, 10:10:58 am »

Cool Device!  Is it possible to connect headphones (ipod earbuds) directly to the audio out of the unit or is it the wrong audio level for direct connection.  i.e. does it have to go to an amplifier first?  I am thinking of buying one for help to sleep music.
It's possible, but the volume is low.  In a quiet room, it might be OK.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2010, 06:30:16 am »

Hi Jim,  When do you expect to ship at this stage?
Thanks
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2010, 04:45:49 pm »

Hi Jim,  When do you expect to ship at this stage?
Thanks
Nathan
In about two weeks if the sample we're expecting this week has no issues.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2010, 04:08:02 pm »

In about two weeks if the sample we're expecting this week has no issues.

Hows is it looking?
Thanks
Nathan
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #74 on: June 14, 2010, 07:06:09 am »

We're still ironing out some wrinkles.  It still should ship in June.  Sorry for the delay, but we want to make sure it's right.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #75 on: June 14, 2010, 02:54:17 pm »

Sounds good, I'd much rather have something that works well over arrives soon.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2010, 04:24:19 pm »

Could of Q's
1) Will I be able to play streaming radio to it (Eg from Audio --> Connected Media --> Today FM etc etc?)
2) Any confirmation if it naively supports WMA lossless (I know MC can transcode)
Thanks
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2010, 05:44:30 pm »

This looks great, and I've already ordered one.

I'm planning on putting the ID inside an otter box or similar weather-proof box and putting in on my patio. Can I get some suggestions on a outdoor powered speaker solution to pair with it?
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #78 on: June 29, 2010, 01:02:57 pm »

Any shipping updates? June's almost gone.
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Re: Imaginary Device [ID]
« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2010, 01:10:14 pm »

We expect to receive another sample next week.  If the problems we've been working on are all fixed, it will be about two weeks after that.

If anyone would like to cancel, please e-mail me.  I'm jimh at jriver.

I'm sorry for the delay, but we need to make sure it's right.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2010, 11:36:16 pm »

How did the sample look (sound)?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2010, 06:55:32 am »

How did the sample look (sound)?
It shipped Wednesday.  It's somewhere between Chicago and Minneapolis.  We should see it today or Monday.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2010, 08:29:28 am »

Do you have a firm price? also, how do I go about ordering one?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2010, 10:25:48 am »

A link to details and ordering info is in the first post in this thread:
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We're in the early stages of producing these now.  Please see our wiki for details and how to order.

We received our latest eval unit today and so far it looks fine.  We'll test a little more before we approve it.  Then it should take 2 weeks before we see any quantity of the device.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2010, 03:39:24 pm »

Good stuff - looking forward to trying it.  Now it is "final" can I check:
- Supported Formats: WMA Lossless
- Can you stream an Online Radio Station (Connected Media) to it?

Thanks
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2010, 04:00:38 pm »

MC could convert WMA losless to WAV to stream to it.

I don't think online radio will work.  We'll check.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2010, 04:09:50 pm »

MC could convert WMA losless to WAV to stream to it.
Thanks - I know I can convert any valid Audio type and stream it to the ID.  The specs say the ID supports WMA, but I just want to know if it also means WMA Lossless or just WMA Lossy

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I don't think online radio will work.  We'll check.

I know it sounds odd - but much of the listening in our house is Radio - so the ability to stream from MC in general would be good.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #87 on: July 26, 2010, 01:17:08 pm »

We're still working on a sound issue.  MP3 files have a ringing in the background when listening with good equipment.  WAV files are OK.  This could take a couple of weeks to solve.

Refunds are available to anyone who wants one.  I'm sorry for the delay.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2010, 03:41:48 am »

Hi Jim, how is it looking?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2010, 09:26:33 am »

Any progress on the ID?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2010, 06:49:19 pm »

I too am very interested in buying one of these units when they are ready.
Any idea when?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2010, 06:10:54 pm »

Jim - it may be worth updating the Wiki on dates/prices etc http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/J._River_ID
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2010, 07:10:36 am »

Hi,

I am ready to order one of these ID devices so just want to make sure that it is all good to go.  Has anyone got one of these units installed and working.  What is the feedback?  Is the MP3 issue resolved?

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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2010, 07:15:24 am »

I am ready to order one of these ID devices so just want to make sure that it is all good to go.  Has anyone got one of these units installed and working.  What is the feedback?  Is the MP3 issue resolved?
Thanks for your interest.  We're still working on the MP3 problem so we haven't shipped any yet.  I'm sorry.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #94 on: October 22, 2010, 12:04:30 pm »


Reading the wiki: http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/J._River_ID
it seems that the Remote Controller is included. is that really the case?

Does the ac-adapter handle 240V ?

Specifications state: " Offers a "Play to" feature for Vista and XP "
I assume that does not means that it is not compatible w/ Win7?

Is there any more detailed info available on how to work it? My need is to set up audio for another room that I would like to control from my main media center computer. Can I drive the output to the stereo hooked up to the JRiver ID as a separate media center zone, or how do I control it?

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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #95 on: October 23, 2010, 03:09:02 pm »

It's 110 or 220V.

It works with Windows 7.

It's a DLNA renderer, so you play to it from JRiver Media Center or WMP, for example.  See the DLNA article on our wiki for more information about DLNA.

We are still not shipping this device.  We think we've found the MP3 sound problem we've been chasing, but it will still take a few weeks to get any devices.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #96 on: October 24, 2010, 10:17:23 am »

Two follow-up questions:
- reading the Wiki you get the feeling that the package includes the Remote Control. True?
- will the device not support APE (I have 45k APE encoded tunes - would hate to have to convert them all to FLAC....).
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #97 on: October 24, 2010, 10:41:20 am »

The Media Center Remote is not included. 

JRiver Media Center can convert from APE to MP3 or WAV as it plays to the Id.
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2010, 01:10:22 pm »

Any news on orders for the JRiver ID shipping?
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Re: Imaginary Device [JRiver ID]
« Reply #99 on: October 31, 2010, 02:13:11 pm »

We've found the problem that was preventing us from shipping, but it will take a few weeks to get it in production. 
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