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Rapier Fusion skin for Theater View
« on: January 31, 2012, 02:30:43 pm »

Update Update Update 13-02-2012

Rapier Fusion skin for Theater View is ready

Thanks to Marko, and the developers from JRiver for making this possible.

Download link: https://www.mpw.scot/xplain/Rapier_Fusion.rar

Skin name: Rapier Fusion

Website: http://x-plain.blogspot.de/p/rapier-fusion-skin.html

For MC Version 17.0.85 onwards only

The folder Rapier Fusion needs to be put in Folder skins / Theater view
The folder Rapier fusion - Theme needs to be put in folder skins / Theater view / Themes

Set options like this:



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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 03:44:22 pm »

One more screenshot

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 02:59:02 am »

If this has any interest, I will ofcourse adapt it to fit
the default theater view items.

It will be easy to change the background for your own liking,
and it will also be easy to change the icon just above the text.

Both the background and icon will change as you sroll the menu (Roller),
on the second roller only the icon will change, and background will stay.

The skinn is based on the Rapier skinn for XBMC.

Hope you like it.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 03:35:59 am »

Looking really promising... hard work? Standard view view skins certainly take a lot of time to do right.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 08:28:34 am »

Nice job! I'd like to try it out when your ready.
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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 09:07:54 am »

Nice job! I'd like to try it out when your ready.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 09:11:32 am »

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Looking really promising... hard work?

Nahhh, not hard work, but fun work.

I just wanted to do something completly different than the other skinns
that is for theater view.

So I looked at some skins from XBMC, and liked the one called Rapier.

My problem is that I knew nothing about how to do it,
so I just tried to edit the xml file, and edit it again, and again, and again .................

Not everything is how I would like it to be, but it works smooth
and I think it looks great.

I have a lot of ideas for other skinns.....

But I think I need help with somethings,
but until now I just play with it to get a hang of it.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 01:54:53 pm »

+ 1

Looks very promising.  I'm betting it will be popular when you get it finished.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 07:37:42 pm »

+1. Very nice!
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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 03:29:03 am »

I need some help.

My theater roller menu is set for my own liking.

Can some one help me with the Roller menu as it is as standard.

Ex.

Audio    Video    images   Gadgets     
           
           TV show     Movie     Hulu


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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Need help]
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 05:41:35 pm »

Here ya go... (only "video" and "gadgets" have secondary rollers by default)









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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Need help]
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 03:10:03 am »

Thank You Marko

Just what I needed.
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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 08:37:44 am »

Still working but need some help again.






On the first image you can see the image behind the menu stands out,
but as soon as I press an arrow on keyboard to get to the next item in the menu
the image gets unclear.

Can someone help with this.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 07:06:35 pm »

Can't wait to try this out. :)
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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 07:40:51 pm »

Can't wait to try this out. :)
me too 

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Re: New Theater skin on the way
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 05:29:48 am »

It's ready for testing.

But where do I upload to  ?
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 05:38:25 am »

Sent you a PM...

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 06:03:18 am »

Thank you Marko

Download link at top
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 07:15:25 am »

Big props for taking a stab at those config files and discovering more creative options! :)
A few thoughts:

1)
And last the file Base 22a.xml needs to be put in Skins / Theater view / shared

I personally don't like this structure. A skins should be self contained as much as possible. Sharing files and configs and common folders for all skins it's a JRiver invention that I disagree with. Since the path can be easily referenced anywhere you put that file, it can be in the same folder with the skin and you have one less instruction to give people where to move what.

2) There's a small pointer error in main.xml, line 81 that prevents the icon for Images to show up (Location="Billeder"  should be Location="Images" ).


Keep up the good work! If only JRiver would give us more stuff to work with...
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 07:22:20 am »

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2) There's a small pointer error in main.xml, line 81 that prevents the icon for Images to show up (Location="Billeder"  should be Location="Images" ).

Will be corrected in next build (Forgot to translate it to english from Danish)  :P

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it can be in the same folder with the skin and you have one less instruction to give people where to move what.

Will look at this to.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 10:37:03 am »

In appearance:
Theme: Rapier Fusion? or  Rapier fusion - Theme?

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 10:52:15 am »

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In appearance:
Theme: Rapier Fusion? or  Rapier fusion - Theme?

Theme: Rapier fusion - Theme
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 01:20:30 pm »

Theme: Rapier fusion - Theme

Ok.

Crash: when change language (for example, portuguese) dont show background in "playing now", audio and playlists. Also, dont show Pictures (thumbnail) in Video (Pictures\Video.png).

More, dont show correctly "Second Roller" in resolution 1366 x 768.

Regards,

Fabricio, from Brazil.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 01:43:37 pm »

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More, dont show correctly "Second Roller" in resolution 1366 x 768.

I had a feeling about this, that's why I wrote 1920 x 1080 in resolution.


About the language, at the moment I have no idea how to fix this ?
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 03:20:41 pm »

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Crash: when change language (for example, portuguese) dont show background in "playing now", audio and playlists. Also, dont show Pictures (thumbnail) in Video (Pictures\Video.png).

Found the problem is fixed for next build

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 04:27:12 pm »

I had a feeling about this, that's why I wrote 1920 x 1080 in resolution.

 :( :( :(  :-[ :-[ :-[


Found the problem is fixed for next build

Ok, thanks ...

more, background in "playing now" = background in "gadgets"?

Fabricio, from brazil.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2012, 04:53:13 pm »

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I had a feeling about this, that's why I wrote 1920 x 1080 in resolution.

I will try to fix this.

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more, background in "playing now" = background in "gadgets"?

This one is right.

It should be easy to put another background for your own liking,
if you like a can xplain  ;D for you.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2012, 05:08:46 pm »

I will try to fix this.

Ok, waiting.  :D :D :D :D  :) :) :)

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This one is right.

It should be easy to put another background for your own liking,
if you like a can xplain  ;D for you. Thomas

I like this: http://www.pix01.com/gallery/F70A5EA5-F5F0-4AD2-9954-560EAC859D81/Theater_view_2/572689999_orig0.jpg

How to change in main.xml (command) for "playing now"?  ? ?  ;)

Thanks ...

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2012, 05:16:51 am »

Hold breath  ;D

I made some more changes,
also to meet that it will fit other than 1920 x 1080.

I would like the background image to change more smoothly,
does anybody know if this is possible ??

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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2012, 06:01:03 am »

Hold breath  ;D

I made some more changes,
also to meet that it will fit other than 1920 x 1080.

Thomas

Ok, I'm happy.  :D :D :D :D :D  :) :) :) :)

Waiting changes.

Thanks,

Fabricio, from Brazil.

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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2012, 08:52:32 am »

In playing now > rating dont show stars.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2012, 04:28:11 am »

Nice work! Do you have a suggestion as to how I can remove the transition effect of the images for the main menu? It's gonna give me an epileptic shock one day:P
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2012, 04:43:01 am »

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Nice work! Do you have a suggestion as to how I can remove the transition effect of the images for the main menu? It's gonna give me an epileptic shock one day:P

Is it for the background images or the icon images ?

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2012, 04:46:54 am »

The menu item images. The animations is a bit to much in your face imo. If I can easily remove it, this will probably be my new standard skin. Very nice with the extra info and graphics on the main menu. And the clock in every view is a nice touch.
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2012, 05:11:45 am »

In the document, Main.xml

Find where it says:

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First Roller

        <Item Bitmap="Pictures\DVD.png" Location="DVD" Rect="45,63,55,80," Alpha="90" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Audio.png" Location="Audio" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="80" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Video.png" Location="Video" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="80" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Images.png" Location="Billeder" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="80" Alignment="3"/>
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Playlist.png" Location="Playlists" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="3" />
        <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Gadgets.png" Location="Gadgets" Rect="45,63,55,80," Alpha="90" Alignment="3" />
        <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Exit.png" Location="Exit" Rect="45,63,55,80," Alpha="90" Alignment="3" />
   

   Second Roller

   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\movies.png" Location="Movies" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\shows.png" Location="Shows"  Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\guide.png" Location="Guide"  Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\netflix.png" Location="netflix" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\youtube.png" Location="Youtube" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\hulu.png" Location="hulu" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\home videos.png" Location="home videos" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Other.png" Location="Other" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\disk.png" Location="disk" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />

   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\search.png" Location="search" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="50" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\Playing Now.png" Location="Playing Now" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="50" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\News.png" Location="News" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="50" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\weather.png" Location="weather" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="50" Alignment="3" />
   <Item Bitmap="Pictures\explorer.png" Location="Explorer" Rect="45,63,55,80" Alpha="70" Alignment="90" />

And delete all of this.

Make sure it is this you delete, as other places in the document look familiar.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2012, 05:16:12 am »

Oh. I did not mean the images them self. But the animation where the image fly into the screen and merges with the image/icon. The white/gray shapes going from bigger to smaller.

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No, it's actually the background of the previous menu item. I just noticed it now. So, the correct name for this would be background transition effect. I need to remove that.
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2012, 05:32:50 am »

Ahh OK

I think this is a problem, I cannot solve.

I have the same problem with the transition effect,
I also think it's not good looking.

That's why I wrote this request to the developers.

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=69733.0
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I would like the background image to change more smoothly
Is there any way this can be done,
I would like it to be like ex. how the backgrounds for movie and series
changes when you hoover over the coverarts, just at a much faster speed.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2012, 05:37:00 am »

I think if these two requests would be applied.

Then there's nothing holding us back from making
just as nice looking skins as ex. XBMC and Media Portal.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2012, 09:31:56 am »

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In playing now > rating dont show stars.

Fixed for next build

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2012, 09:43:26 am »

First, this is very neat work.  Thanks!

As for the question of how to handle background images, I wonder if it would be better to allow themes to provide the background image per root roller selection?  In other words, those images would move from the skin to the theme.  That way, the handling of threaded loading and smooth transitions would be taken care of.  What do you think?

Also, I would recommend moving 'Base 22a.xml' into your skin folder.  It's fine to use shared resources when they're helpful but I think it's a little confusing for a third-party skin to add more.

Finally, put comments in the XML in blocks like this:
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2012, 10:39:16 am »

In a coming build of v17:
NEW: Theater View themes support showing different images depending on the root roller selection (put images in [Theme Folder]\Root\Audio, [Theme Folder]\Root\Movies, etc.).
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2012, 11:21:16 am »

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As for the question of how to handle background images, I wonder if it would be better to allow themes to provide the background image per root roller selection?  In other words, those images would move from the skin to the theme.  That way, the handling of threaded loading and smooth transitions would be taken care of.  What do you think?

I think this would be great.

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In a coming build of v17:
NEW: Theater View themes support showing different images depending on the root roller selection (put images in [Theme Folder]\Root\Audio, [Theme Folder]\Root\Movies, etc.).

Wow already done, amazing.

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Also, I would recommend moving 'Base 22a.xml' into your skin folder

This is done for the next build.

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Finally, put comments in the XML in blocks like this:
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Will do. Edit, is done  ;D

Thank you very much.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2012, 11:46:16 am »

In a coming build of v17:
NEW: Theater View themes support showing different images depending on the root roller selection (put images in [Theme Folder]\Root\Audio, [Theme Folder]\Root\Movies, etc.).

That sounds good Matt. But does that also mean that the transition will be slow by default? One of the major points with this skin in my opinion, is that the background changes fast so you see what you've selected. Not just by the text on the roller item, but the background as well. I fear that this change might make things rather slow? Am I right or wrong?
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2012, 11:59:46 am »

You're right MrHaugen, it needs to change the background just as fast as now, but with nicer transition.

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2012, 12:10:41 pm »

I know i am asking many things  ;D but is this also possible ??

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It seems like there are 2 layers for background images

<PICTURE>
    <Item Bitmap="Background.png" Rect="0,0,100,110" Alpha="100" Background"1" />
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You have today only working "Background "0" and "Background "1"

Would it be possible to add "Background "2"


If this could also be done it would eliminate this problem:

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On the first image you can see the image behind the menu stands out,
but as soon as I press an arrow on keyboard to get to the next item in the menu
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2012, 12:30:36 pm »

Technically, I think it's best to use the theme engine for handling fullscreen backgrounds.  It will be most efficient (threading, resource usage, etc.), handle z-order correctly, and play nicely with the existing backgrounds.

As for timing, we'll try this next build:
Changed: Theater View themes use a faster fade when switching to a different set of images (but still the same fade time between images in a slideshow set).
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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2012, 12:45:25 pm »

How about adding a little perspective and curved mapping to the J River logo on the theater screen?  Something like this quick mockup:
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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2012, 02:00:06 pm »

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How about adding a little perspective and curved mapping to the J River logo on the theater screen?  Something like this quick mockup:

You're right that's much better
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« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2012, 02:02:23 pm »

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Technically, I think it's best to use the theme engine for handling fullscreen backgrounds.  It will be most efficient (threading, resource usage, etc.), handle z-order correctly, and play nicely with the existing backgrounds.

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My english, is not good enough to understand this  ? sorry

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Re: New Theater skin on the way [Ready for testing]
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2012, 01:43:42 pm »

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I like this: http://www.pix01.com/gallery/F70A5EA5-F5F0-4AD2-9954-560EAC859D81/Theater_view_2/572689999_orig0.jpg

This is back in the next build, with a little change.
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