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Issues with cover art
« on: July 17, 2013, 07:27:33 pm »

I'm still having issues with "get from internet" with 207.  Is this expected at this point?
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 08:22:22 am »

What exactly does it do when you "get from internet"?
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 08:24:02 am »

What exactly does it do when you "get from internet"?
Nothing.  It can never find any artwork.   :(
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 08:38:00 am »

I can't reproduce this.  Does the dialog box come up where you should be able to select a cover, but no covers appear in the box?  Or does that dialog box not come up at all?
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 08:45:01 am »

Does the dialog box come up where you should be able to select a cover, but no covers appear in the box? 
This.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 09:32:49 am »

Could you downloading this song from here and importing it into Media Center? http://www.last.fm/music/Best+Coast/_/The+Only+Place
(click "FREE download via Last.fm" on the right)

Does it still not provide any cover art info? It could be you've been unlucky, and the ones you've tried we couldn't find info for.  This one should definitely have info though.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 09:37:07 am »

Could you downloading this song from here and importing it into Media Center? http://www.last.fm/music/Best+Coast/_/The+Only+Place
(click "FREE download via Last.fm" on the right)

Does it still not provide any cover art info? It could be you've been unlucky, and the ones you've tried we couldn't find info for.  This one should definitely have info though.
I will try it tonight.  I have tried many very common artists that should be found but are not.  FWIW, iTunes finds them without an issue....
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 09:39:14 am »

Thats interesting you've tried common artists with no results...  Thanks for looking into it!
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 09:44:32 am »

Thats interesting you've tried common artists with no results...  Thanks for looking into it!
I'll do it tonight and post results. 
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 05:41:05 pm »

OK.  The link that you provided works fine and I can see the artwork. 

Take a look at these:
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 06:15:09 pm »

Getz for Lovers is Stan Getz, not Oscar Peterson.

Elton John's A Single Man, should not include the parenthetical text.

Once corrected, artwork lookup succeeds.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 06:20:38 pm »

Getz for Lovers is Stan Getz, not Oscar Peterson.
Of course but he was a guest on that track.

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Elton John's A Single Man, should not include the parenthetical text.
So for every album this needs to be removed?    :(  That's not good....how would one know if one is an older recording vs. a remastered?  Or perhaps Cd or DSD without looking at all the info?


What about this one?  It's a compilation.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 06:30:31 pm »

The lookup uses Artist (actually, probably Album Artist (auto)), not featured artists.

The best way to handle album variants is to use a different field (e.g. Album Variant), and then adjust your views to show [Album] [Album Variant].  You get correct lookups, and can then view in a variety of ways.  It's easy to piece together field values; it's hard to break them apart, and requires doing so for lookups.

AMG is probably the best bet to determine the Artist and Album values to use.

For example:

   http://www.allmusic.com/album/based-on-a-true-story-mw0002491758
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2013, 06:33:31 pm »

Thanks but honestly, I don't understand what you're telling me.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2013, 06:42:41 pm »

Simply put...

Set Album and Artist to the values you find in allmusic.com.

This means you'll be moving your "(Remastered blah blah blah)" to a different field in MC.  I would use Keywords personally, and it will look like this:


Artist           Album                 Featuring             Keywords
Stan Getz     Getz for Lovers     Oscar Peterson
Elton John    A Single Man                                     Remastered; Bonus Tracks

Then, you just adjust your album views.

If this isn't going to work for you, then change the Artist and Album values temporarily and do the look-up.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2013, 07:32:04 pm »

I see.  That will work fine for me.  One more question, how (where) do I do those changes?
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2013, 10:09:24 pm »

So let's start by getting your data in the correct locations.  Then we'll set up the views.

There are some fast means to move data from one field to another.  The Library Tools > Move / Copy Fields tool is easy for copying or moving data from one field to another.  You might use this to select some tracks, and move, say, Oscar Peterson from the Artist to another field.  I use a custom user field called Featuring for this.

To create a field, Tools > Options > Library & Folders > Manage Library Fields.  Click the Add New Field button, and give it a name.  Select the Data Type as List.  You can click the Default search field checkbox too.

Now, use the Move / Copy Fields tool to copy your Artist values, where necessary, to Featuring.

And now be sure your Artist fields are correct (or Album Artist, for multi-artist discs).

Now, let's work on Keywords.  Add the necessary keywords to the Keywords field for an album.  For example, add Remastered; Bonus Tracks to add these two keywords.  Alternatively, you can add them to a new field that you create.  You might want to use some other field of either a list type or a simple string.  A list gives you flexibility of being able to check the relevant items for an album, such as Remastered, Bonus Tracks, SACD, etc. all while keeping the items consistent across albums.  Or you might just want an exact string, such as "Remastered with Bonus Tracks".  Its up to you.  Maybe you want to make this field only available for Audio, and might call it Album Variant as we discussed above.

Once that's done, you can remove the now redundant portions from Album.  There are programmatic ways to do this, but for now, do a few to get the idea.

You can use the Tag Action Window or the file list with the appropriate columns to view your work.  Add fields or columns to either, respectively.

Get that going, and we'll go to the next step.  Its really quite fast once you get the hang of it.  Work on 1 or 2 albums to start; then move onto larger selections or your entire library.  Remember, Undo can save you if you make a mistake.
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Re: Issues with cover art
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2013, 05:20:47 pm »

OK.  I seem to have this sorted. 

Now, I have multiple albums that are compilations that need to be put into one album.  How is that done?
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