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GMan

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I plan to use HDTracks and want to optimize audio quality. I have an excellent DAC that takes both USB and Optical Toslink. I have several questions: Does USB or Toslink provide better sound? Do I worry about audio cards or use dragonfly if I go USB? Would a computer with solid state storage outperform a computer with a hard drive? Any other guidance and recommendations are heartily requested. I want to invest to get the best possible audio quality.
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Re: Computer / Audio card selection / DACs / Optimizing audio performance
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 02:39:14 pm »

While you are getting help here, make sure to stop by this site:  http://www.computeraudiophile.com/  for even more information.

I use a computer with on-board sound disabled, SSD for OS, and send data via USB to my DAC using JRiver.  
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Re: Computer / Audio card selection / DACs / Optimizing audio performance
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 02:49:03 pm »

I plan to use HDTracks and want to optimize audio quality. I have an excellent DAC that takes both USB and Optical Toslink. I have several questions: Does USB or Toslink provide better sound? Do I worry about audio cards or use dragonfly if I go USB? Would a computer with solid state storage outperform a computer with a hard drive? Any other guidance and recommendations are heartily requested. I want to invest to get the best possible audio quality.

Depending on your application, USB and optical SPDIF/Toslink both have advantages.  Not all DACs/sources support 192KHz playback over optical SPDIF, and if you plan to listen to multichannel music (5.1 or 7.1) Toslink very seriously limits your choices (toslink can only do multichannel in certain compressed formats).  The main advantage of Toslink is that it provides better electrical isolation, which may or may not matter depending on your specific setup and the design of your DAC.  

If you know you're only planning to ever listen to stereo music, and you know that your DAC supports high sampling rates over optical, then Toslink may be a good choice.  Otherwise, USB is probably a better choice.  I personally use USB because I need to be able to reliably output more than 2 channels, and I like the flexibility it gives me.

Another advantage of USB is that you don't need a soundcard or dragonfly (Which is itself a DAC).  If your existing DAC accepts usb input, you can just plug it into your computer directly; you don't need anything else in between the PC and the DAC.  If you plan to use Toslink, and your computer doesn't have an optical out built in, you'll need to find some kind of sound card that has a Toslink out, which may add to the cost for limited benefit.

In terms of audio quality, I don't think SSD vs. HDD makes a real difference, but in conventional terms of computer performance a PC with an SSD for a boot disk will "outperform" the same system with an HDD for a bootdisk.  It makes the system as a whole more responsive, and has no moving parts so there's less noise from the computer.  But SSD storage is usually too expensive to use for bulk media storage and doesn't provide much benefit in that application.  It's best used as a place to put the OS and commonly used software.
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Re: Computer / Audio card selection / DACs / Optimizing audio performance
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 05:05:08 am »

I can only second what mwillems is saying.

Observe that “Toslink” or “USB” don’t exist.
We are not listening to a standard (a pile of technical papers) but to the actual implementation.
Wouldn’t be surprised if a well implemented Toslink beats an adaptive mode USB.
Wouldn’t be surprised either if a well implemented asynchronous USB beats Toslink.
It all depends on the implementation.

You might try different drivers like ASIO or WASAPI if you have not already done so.
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Re: Computer / Audio card selection / DACs / Optimizing audio performance
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 12:35:11 pm »

Thank you everybody for the feedback. Sounds like USB is going to be my best option. I'm insanely psyched to hear the result. Also going to check out computeraudiophile.com
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Re: Computer / Audio card selection / DACs / Optimizing audio performance
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 03:57:58 am »

I plan to use HDTracks and want to optimize audio quality. I have an excellent DAC that takes both USB and Optical Toslink. I have several questions: Does USB or Toslink provide better sound? Do I worry about audio cards or use dragonfly if I go USB? Would a computer with solid state storage outperform a computer with a hard drive? Any other guidance and recommendations are heartily requested. I want to invest to get the best possible audio quality.

If your PC hardware outputs Toslink S/PDIF (assuming that USB is a given), then you could get an optical cable for not much and do your own listening test. Even with the good advice you get here and over at CA, you really can't beat your own ears, listening to your own system, in your own home..

Enjoy testing..  ;)
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