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[Soul_Rvr911]

any chance of chromecast support?

Also when in videos if one presses and holds on the file then clicks the menu option it gives an option (file info) which we can then see the tags (above all... description of the video) Is there any chance when one clicks the movie title all the info  (none editable) could show below the movie title? so we dont have to press and hold, and chose file info, and so noobs dont accidentally change tags?

example , if i goto video, recently imported, action, Dirty Harry series, it shows all Dirty harry movies, once i select Dirty Harry - The Dead Pool, the movie starts to play, maybe there is a way once i tap on Dirty Harry - The Dead Pool, it would go 1 more page, and give description, other tag info. then if a person tapped it again, it would play.

Right now there is no way to view description of Videos in gizmo or eos, (unless one follows steps mentioned above in eos)

thanks

What sort of use case do you envision with Chromecast support? I took a quick look at the APIs, and it seems like it's going to be a considerable amount of work to implement. Honestly, I don't know how much time I want to invest in it. It doesn't seem to fit with my vision for eos.

I don't want to change the playback flow by introducing another screen before playback starts, but I might be able to make the additional tag info more readily available. I'll give some thought to what this might look like.

[HTPC4ME]

What sort of use case do you envision with Chromecast support?

just hoping for similar chromecast support as Gizmo has. so we can stream to our tv's around the home.

but I might be able to make the additional tag info more readily available. I'll give some thought to what this might look like.

Much appreciated. The other day we had friends over and they were using Gizmo & EOS, and that was one of the things they mentioned "seems a little unpolished, how is one supposed to know what the movie is about if there is no description". Personally i agree with them, being our library consists of alot of documentaries.
Thanks for considering.

[crawfofd]

I am new to the eos app and used it a bit on mc19 and it seemed to work pretty good.  I have updated to mc20 and can not get the app to work. It crashes after I put the Access Key or the IP in.  Anyone have any ideas?

Sorry if this is posted in wrong place.

[Soul_Rvr911]

I am new to the eos app and used it a bit on mc19 and it seemed to work pretty good.  I have updated to mc20 and can not get the app to work. It crashes after I put the Access Key or the IP in.  Anyone have any ideas?

Sorry if this is posted in wrong place.

This is the right place! I'm sorry to hear that you're having troubles with eos. I think I see your crash report in my Play Store console. I'll send you a PM with further instructions to help diagnose your issue.

[dgcrane]

Same with me.... Since upgrading to MC20, I cannot get EOS to work.

exception class name : java.lang.numberformatexception

Please assist when you can.

Darren Crane

[crawfofd]

[Solved]
My issue was the zones. I had hidden two zones. I un-hid them and eos works as it did in MC19.
Dont know if this  is a bug or not. Anyway thanks all for resonses. What ins company do u have

[Soul_Rvr911]

Same with me.... Since upgrading to MC20, I cannot get EOS to work.

exception class name : java.lang.numberformatexception

Please assist when you can.

Darren Crane

[Solved]
My issue was the zones. I had hidden two zones. I un-hid them and eos works as it did in MC19.
Dont know if this  is a bug or not. Anyway thanks all for resonses. What ins company do u have

As crawfofd mentioned, there appears to be an issue with the way eos is handling hidden zones that are returned in the MCWS /Playback/Zones call. I'll take a look this weekend, and should have a fix in short order. As suggested, the workaround is to un-hide any Zones that you may have hidden.

Thanks!

-L

[Soul_Rvr911]

As crawfofd mentioned, there appears to be an issue with the way eos is handling hidden zones that are returned in the MCWS /Playback/Zones call. I'll take a look this weekend, and should have a fix in short order. As suggested, the workaround is to un-hide any Zones that you may have hidden.

Thanks!

-L

After investigating, it seems that there's a bug in MC. The number of zones returned in the /Playback/Zones call still includes hidden zones, even though information about hidden zones isn't included in the response. This is causing eos to crash, because it is trying to retrieve information that doesn't exist in the response. I've posted about this in the Media Center 20 topic; hopefully this will be resolved in the next version of MC.

Again, the workaround is to refrain from using zone hiding until this bug has been resolved.

[mojave]

I recently purchased eos (my first purchased app ever). Very nice! I especially like the volume controls for various zones. I do wish that the dB change showed up while adjusting the volume. I only see the %. The % doesn't really mean anything to me when I'm trying to change volume.

Also, each zone can have a maximum volume level and a reference volume level (Tools > Options > Audio > Volume). I don't think the current volume control is using what has been setup for the zone.

If I have the Ratings turned off, it would be nice to have a volume slider always visible. Maybe it would cause inadvertent adjustment, though.

[Stormen]

Hi
I'm working my way through all the benefits and trying to master all the settings and workaround.
I tried to edit the tags in a movie or a music file but got "server returned 500"
(sure the server probably got at least 500 reasons for not letting me edit tags :-) lol )
I long press  a music/movie file, hitting the 3 dots and "file info"
Perhaps that aint the right way to go? or is it some more setting in the server I need to do?

Another question, I setup 2 zones beacuse it was the only way to play music in only 2 channels and movies in multichannel. downmix but no upmix.
 But the eos ( or any remote) doesnt change zone automaticly.
Is it possible then to have autoswitch as an option? Is that info sent from the server?

tnx so much for the extreme fast support and development of this app. :-)

using win 8.1  JRiver 20, Samsung galaxy 4

[Soul_Rvr911]

I recently purchased eos (my first purchased app ever). Very nice! I especially like the volume controls for various zones. I do wish that the dB change showed up while adjusting the volume. I only see the %. The % doesn't really mean anything to me when I'm trying to change volume.

Also, each zone can have a maximum volume level and a reference volume level (Tools > Options > Audio > Volume). I don't think the current volume control is using what has been setup for the zone.

If I have the Ratings turned off, it would be nice to have a volume slider always visible. Maybe it would cause inadvertent adjustment, though.

I checked MCWS, but I don't see how it's possible to get the dB volume value. The Volume service only works on volume percentages.

I've never used volume protection before. I just enabled it and tried changing the volume on eos, and the behavior was what I would have expected. I limited the volume to 50% in MC, then played around with eos' slider. Anything below 50% would set the volume to that value, while 50% or more would max out MC's volume.

I think I'll leave the Playing Now page the way it is when ratings are hidden. I hacked a slider into the Playing Now page via a drawer on the BB10 version, but I'm much happier with the button+dialog implementation on the Android version.

[Soul_Rvr911]

Hi
I'm working my way through all the benefits and trying to master all the settings and workaround.
I tried to edit the tags in a movie or a music file but got "server returned 500"
(sure the server probably got at least 500 reasons for not letting me edit tags :-) lol )
I long press  a music/movie file, hitting the 3 dots and "file info"
Perhaps that aint the right way to go? or is it some more setting in the server I need to do?

Another question, I setup 2 zones beacuse it was the only way to play music in only 2 channels and movies in multichannel. downmix but no upmix.
 But the eos ( or any remote) doesnt change zone automaticly.
Is it possible then to have autoswitch as an option? Is that info sent from the server?

tnx so much for the extreme fast support and development of this app. :-)

using win 8.1  JRiver 20, Samsung galaxy 4

Those are the correct steps for updating file tags. Have you enabled Media Network authentication in MC? Authentication is required if you want to make any tag changes from a remote. I tried turning off authentication on my own server and received the same message you mentioned.

I've never used zone switching myself, but I believe it is possible to configure it to do what you want. It is a MC configuration. Just make sure that none of the checkboxes are checked on eos' Zones page and everything should work as you'd expect, even after MC switches zones.

[zeusl]

Hi!
I have a couple of wishes for the future:
Is it possible to display the average rating on albums? (In Audio and/or search result)
I understand that there is limited space, perhaps by a number instead of stars?
Just as an example, if I'm looking up an artist, he / she has five albums, then I can see the album that I think is best right away.
I would also like to have Ratings in the track list for each song.

Thanks for a great app och great response!

[jmone]

Added a thread on Live TV Playback!

[Soul_Rvr911]

eos v1.3.0 has been pushed to Google Play! As jmone mentioned, this version includes streaming TV to your device. See his thread on Live TV Playback for more info.

I've also fixed the crash that would occur if any zones had been hidden in MC. Let me know if you still experience issues!

[Soul_Rvr911]

I have a couple of wishes for the future:
Is it possible to display the average rating on albums? (In Audio and/or search result)

This isn't something that can easily be implemented. When viewing a list of albums, there is no information about the tracks that are a part of that album. In fact, there isn't any contextual information to even know that you're viewing a list of albums!

I would also like to have Ratings in the track list for each song.

Ratings in the track list is more feasible. I could probably add a smaller set of rating stars to the second row of text. I'll play around with this.

[zeusl]

This isn't something that can easily be implemented. When viewing a list of albums, there is no information about the tracks that are a part of that album. In fact, there isn't any contextual information to even know that you're viewing a list of albums!
Ratings in the track list is more feasible. I could probably add a smaller set of rating stars to the second row of text. I'll play around with this.

Okay, I did not know that.
Would be nice if you can do it in the tracklist. 

[Soul_Rvr911]

Okay, I did not know that.
Would be nice if you can do it in the tracklist. 

Done! See the attached screenshot, taken from my Xperia Z2 (phone).

This change will be included in the next build of eos.

[zeusl]

Done! See the attached screenshot, taken from my Xperia Z2 (phone).

This change will be included in the next build of eos.

Looks great! Thank's! 

[Soul_Rvr911]

Just pushed v1.4.0 to Google Play! This build includes the rating stars in file lists, and fixes a crash that could occur when parsing the access key response.

[dgcrane]

I have been using eos remote since the first day it was available on the Google store and its a very well designed product. Thank you...

The one thing I would change if I could would be on the Now Playing screen. I wish that the "play" button was at the bottom of the screen, slightly bigger than it is now.

Just my very humble opinion

Regards,
Darren C

[Lazz]

I would also like the play and stop button slightly bigger than the next track buttons. Also sorry if i missed it, but when you click on an album can the next screen go straight to the one that displays the large album cover next to the song list. Thx for a great product.

[Soul_Rvr911]

I have been using eos remote since the first day it was available on the Google store and its a very well designed product. Thank you...

The one thing I would change if I could would be on the Now Playing screen. I wish that the "play" button was at the bottom of the screen, slightly bigger than it is now.

Just my very humble opinion

Regards,
Darren C

Unfortunately, the screenshot that you posted is technically impossible to recreate on Android. The status bar at the top of the screen is not free form, i.e. - the controls that can be placed there are of fixed types. It also isn't possible to change the size of buttons on the action bar. I could remove these buttons from the action bar, which would give me more control over rendering and placing them, but then they'd have to be placed elsewhere on the screen, where they'd taking up even more of the limited vertical space.

[Soul_Rvr911]

I would also like the play and stop button slightly bigger than the next track buttons. Also sorry if i missed it, but when you click on an album can the next screen go straight to the one that displays the large album cover next to the song list. Thx for a great product.

Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean here. What do you mean by "when you click on an album"? Are you talking about clicking on an album from the grid that you see after drilling down, e.g. from Artists? Or are you referring to clicking on the album art/album title on the Playing Now page? And what page are you talking about going to - Playing Now?

[dgcrane]

Unfortunately, the screenshot that you posted is technically impossible to recreate on Android. The status bar at the top of the screen is not free form, i.e. - the controls that can be placed there are of fixed types. It also isn't possible to change the size of buttons on the action bar. I could remove these buttons from the action bar, which would give me more control over rendering and placing them, but then they'd have to be placed elsewhere on the screen, where they'd taking up even more of the limited vertical space.

Thank you for the response. My thought is that they (start, stop, pause, next, previous) are the most important bits of functionality on that entire playing now page and even if the image was smaller, it would be beneficial to have the controls stand out and be more central to the page somehow.

Sincerely,
Darren

[Lazz]

When i click on a thumbnail in artist/albums, the next page that loads is a list of the songs in that album. Then when you press on a particular song it then brings you to the next screen which shows the cover of the album with the list of songs next to it. I would like to be able to bypass that one screen that just shows the list of songs in the album and go straight to the playing window.

[Soul_Rvr911]

When i click on a thumbnail in artist/albums, the next page that loads is a list of the songs in that album. Then when you press on a particular song it then brings you to the next screen which shows the cover of the album with the list of songs next to it. I would like to be able to bypass that one screen that just shows the list of songs in the album and go straight to the playing window.

Ahh, so you want to start playback of an album from the list of albums, rather than drilling down into the track list and then selecting the first track. If you long press on an album in a grid, you'll see that the action bar at the top of the screen changes. Once it changes, you'll see that the item you were pressing stays highlighted. In this state, you can continue to tap other albums (if you want), then press the Play button in the action bar. This will start playback of the selected item(s), and then show the Playing Now page.

[Soul_Rvr911]

Thank you for the response. My thought is that they (start, stop, pause, next, previous) are the most important bits of functionality on that entire playing now page and even if the image was smaller, it would be beneficial to have the controls stand out and be more central to the page somehow.

Sincerely,
Darren

I do agree that the playback controls are the most important pieces of functionality on the Playing Now, especially since that page is the only place you can perform these actions. That's why they're given priority placement on the action bar. However, I would argue that the playback modification functionality isn't the most important aspect of the Playing Now page: relaying information about what's currently playing is. Taking precious screen real estate away for occasionally used - albeit useful! - buttons didn't seem like a great use of space. And since the action bar is a ubiquitous element of Android apps, it seemed the natural, most easily discoverable place to put the playback modification actions.

[lynes88]

quick purchase question - if I purchase this in the Google Play store, do I get to download and install on multiple devices?

If so, what is the correct way to do this?  Buy and then go to each device and go through the download and install process?

thanks

[Soul_Rvr911]

quick purchase question - if I purchase this in the Google Play store, do I get to download and install on multiple devices?

If so, what is the correct way to do this?  Buy and then go to each device and go through the download and install process?

thanks

A single purchase should enable you to download the app on all devices that share the same Google account.

[Castius]

I'd like to try this on my Google Tv but it's blocked.
Is there any way for me to buy this and side load it onto my google tv?

[Soul_Rvr911]

I'd like to try this on my Google Tv but it's blocked.
Is there any way for me to buy this and side load it onto my google tv?

I'm not sure. I don't have a Google TV, and I don't have any experience loading apps onto one. I should also note that I designed eos to run on phones and tablets, not Google TV; I don't know how it's going to work on such a device. Outside of bugs that also impact phones/tablets I can't offer any support, even if you manage to get it running.

[Castius]

I understand. i also expect the same with gizmo. It's also not supported on the Google TV. (logitech Revue)

With gizmo it's pretty easy because it's free. So i just go to there website on my google TV and download the apk.

Is there a way you can email me the trial apk?

[Soul_Rvr911]

I understand. i also expect the same with gizmo. It's also not supported on the Google TV. (logitech Revue)

With gizmo it's pretty easy because it's free. So i just go to there website on my google TV and download the apk.

Is there a way you can email me the trial apk?

Sure, I'll email you the APK this evening, when I get home. Just send me a PM with your email address.

[High-End]

hallo

From time to time my HTPC gets a new IP adress. Thats the time EOS couldn't find MC.
I have to delete the SRV config within EOS and setup a new one. after that and starting EOS again EOS find MC.
Is it possible to implement a more inteligent searching algorythm to find a moved SRV within the same IP adresse block?

regards
H-E

[Soul_Rvr911]

hallo

From time to time my HTPC gets a new IP adress. Thats the time EOS couldn't find MC.
I have to delete the SRV config within EOS and setup a new one. after that and starting EOS again EOS find MC.
Is it possible to implement a more inteligent searching algorythm to find a moved SRV within the same IP adresse block?

regards
H-E

Hey High-End,

I left the "Remember connectable address" option checked by default, but I should probably change that in the next release. I've received a number of support requests for this recently!

Go to the Manage Servers page in Settings, and tap Edit on your server. Uncheck "Remember connectable address", and then tap Save.

Then eos will always use the access key to get the IP address to connect to.

Cheers!

-L

[High-End]

Thanks.
I will do so.

Did you see this http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=92511.msg636917#msg636917 discussion?
Is EOS capable to show genre specific tag?
I will try to config MC as discussed in that thread....

regards
H-E

[Soul_Rvr911]

Thanks.
I will do so.

Did you see this http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=92511.msg636917#msg636917 discussion?
Is EOS capable to show genre specific tag?
I will try to config MC as discussed in that thread....

regards
H-E

I hadn't seen that discussion; thanks for pointing it out. I see that there are two problems pointed out there:

1) While browsing your library, the text that appears below the cover art in the grid is insufficient - it only displays the value in the field Album Artist (auto). There isn't anything that an app using MCWS can do about this, since it's the only information that's available there. I don't think there's any way to configure this from the "Customize Views" options in MC, but it would need to be configured there to work as you'd like.

2) The Playing Now page doesn't display any of the additional tags that provide information about classical music. MC's /Playback/Info response does not contain this information, but as Arindelle pointed out, JRemote shows an Info button that can display all of the additional information. I assume that JRemote makes a call to the /File/GetInfo to populate that page. eos shows the same info if you long press on a track from a file list and select File Info. I could add an action to the action bar that would show this screen.

Cheers!

-L

[High-End]

I hadn't seen that discussion; thanks for pointing it out. I see that there are two problems pointed out there:

...

2) The Playing Now page doesn't display any of the additional tags that provide information about classical music. MC's /Playback/Info response does not contain this information, but as Arindelle pointed out, JRemote shows an Info button that can display all of the additional information. I assume that JRemote makes a call to the /File/GetInfo to populate that page. eos shows the same info if you long press on a track from a file list and select File Info. I could add an action to the action bar that would show this screen.

Cheers!

-L

If I understand you right, all tag infos are available today (/File/GetInfo).
Isn't it possible to implement the handling (what kind of these info I will show at the "playing now" screen in combination with genre) within EOS?
Why using only the info MC pushes to EOS if EOS can pull all the infos that it would like to have?

I am no programmer, so perhaps I don't see the trouble...
But for me it seams to be that EOS can handle that genre specific tags by them self
Am I wrong?

regards
H-E

[Trumpetguy]

eos stops working everytime I play video (remote or on mobile device) and press the progress bar to skip. Is this supposed to work? Is there any way to make it work, e.g. like setting a specific transcoding method (I didn't try them all)?

Paid version, Sony Xperia Z2

[Soul_Rvr911]

eos stops working everytime I play video (remote or on mobile device) and press the progress bar to skip. Is this supposed to work? Is there any way to make it work, e.g. like setting a specific transcoding method (I didn't try them all)?

Paid version, Sony Xperia Z2

Apologies for the delay; I've been under the weather for the past week.

When you say "stops working", do you mean the application crashes? I haven't seen this behavior myself. The seek bar doesn't work in most cases when streaming media to the device, but the seek bar on the Playing Now page should always work to control remote playback.

[Trumpetguy]

Apologies for the delay; I've been under the weather for the past week.

When you say "stops working", do you mean the application crashes? I haven't seen this behavior myself. The seek bar doesn't work in most cases when streaming media to the device, but the seek bar on the Playing Now page should always work to control remote playback.

It crashes. I get a dialog box stating 'eos stopped working'.  This applies at least when playing video on the device. When using it as a remote for dlna video playback to the  living room TV ,  skip doesn't work, but I will need to test again to check if it crashes.

Gizmo has managed to get skip working for some time now, and I was hoping eos did as well.

[Soul_Rvr911]

It crashes. I get a dialog box stating 'eos stopped working'.  This applies at least when playing video on the device. When using it as a remote for dlna video playback to the  living room TV ,  skip doesn't work, but I will need to test again to check if it crashes.

Gizmo has managed to get skip working for some time now, and I was hoping eos did as well.

For device playback, eos' skip functionality is limited to what the Android framework provides, which unfortunately is horribly broken, a fact I've mentioned a few times in this thread. JRiver is comprised of a team of people with far more knowledge of media and media playback than I. It seems as though Gizmo doesn't rely on the Android framework's implementation of media playback, unlike eos, and so it is not subject to the same limitations. I've never seen eos crash when attempting to seek - the video normally just starts over from the beginning. I've checked my Google Play console, and I don't see any crash reports for any versions of eos in the last week. Next time this occurs, can you send a bug report?

As far as controlling remote playback goes, eos issues commands to MC in order change the playback position; it is MC that is responsible for adjusting playback accordingly. I would expect that Gizmo works in the same manner, and so I would think that Gizmo would also be unable to seek in this situation.

[High-End]

got a eos update today.
what are the changes?

[zeusl]

got a eos update today.
what are the changes?

From Google play:
New:
Fast scrolling now available in lists - drag the scrollbar!
Updated star icon shown in file lists - thanks Mirko!
Playing Now's loading dialog now includes a cancel button
Fixed:
Several crashes

Question that might have been up:
What about the cache / buffer? Is it possible?

[Ancientflat]

No big deal but I just noticed that the rating star in playing window on/off is no longer functioning in my various devices using EOS 1.5.0 on android systems 4.2.2 and 4.1.2. 

[Soul_Rvr911]

No big deal but I just noticed that the rating star in playing window on/off is no longer functioning in my various devices using EOS 1.5.0 on android systems 4.2.2 and 4.1.2. 

I can't reproduce on either of my devices - Xperia Z2 running 4.4.2, and a Nexus 7 running 4.4.4. The stars on the Playing Now page are hidden as expected when I uncheck the option in Settings. Are you referring to the stars on the Playlist view on the Playing Now page? Those aren't hidden by this option - it only refers to the stars next to the Volume button, underneath the cover art, that are used to modify the rating of the current track.

Question that might have been up:
What about the cache / buffer? Is it possible?

Do you mean downloading tracks to your device for offline playback? That was requested a while ago - as far back as the first page of this thread! Storing and maintaining a cache is not trivial, and as I mentioned then, it isn't something that I had really planned on implementing.

[Ancientflat]

I can't reproduce on either of my devices - Xperia Z2 running 4.4.2, and a Nexus 7 running 4.4.4. The stars on the Playing Now page are hidden as expected when I uncheck the option in Settings. Are you referring to the stars on the Playlist view on the Playing Now page? Those aren't hidden by this option - it only refers to the stars next to the Volume button, underneath the cover art, that are used to modify the rating of the current track.

My apologies, I thought it removed the Playlist view ones also. It is working as you intended, sorry to waste your time.

[zeusl]

Do you mean downloading tracks to your device for offline playback? That was requested a while ago - as far back as the first page of this thread! Storing and maintaining a cache is not trivial, and as I mentioned then, it isn't something that I had really planned on implementing.

I mean: Downloading (buffering) songs in case you lose the connection for a while. For example, in the car. In Gizmo can select 1, 3, 5 tracks in advance.

[jmone]

Sorry for the late report on this (busy with work), but EOS now opens and closes immediately with no error msg.  Just a quick flash and back to the Android screen.  Not sure how to send a log or get anything useful as it will not open.
Thanks
Nathan