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Re: eos, a remote for JRiver - now for Android!
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2014, 11:24:49 am »

I purchased also and saw the same crash mentioned in playing now that has been addressed.

The video seek issue, for me at least, is when a video starts to play it plays fine, however if I tap the screen and move the progress slider it moves but the video does not advance to this point. I do not think this is a limitation of my device as it works in Gizmo.

Very nice looking app. Great work and I look forward to your development.

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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2014, 12:12:16 pm »

One other item....

Home screen: Artist - Starts With - R
shows all R artists

The search only works with the first letter, typing a second shows no result

Artist - Starts With - Ru
Shows nothing.

This works fine if using: Favorites - Starts With - Ru

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Re: eos, a remote for JRiver - now for Android!
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2014, 12:33:52 pm »

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SleepTimer  -- if Gizmo has this I am not aware of it.  This little feature is great for sending the kid's off to sleep.  They can listen to an audio book for awhile and the Eos stops playback at a set time.  Love it!  Now it just needs to implement a Awake Timer, where Eos will start playback at a set hour -- a zone controlled alarm clock if you will.
i've been beta testing this for some time, and just the sleep timer was enough for me to purchase EOS, we use it everynight, and it works great...who wants music playing all night long? a timer solves that problem. We also really like the volume on playing now, those of us that have kickstand cases know what a pita it is to have to lift your phone flip it, to tap the volume buttons, so having it in the interface saves alot of time and hassle.
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Re: eos, a remote for JRiver - now for Android!
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2014, 01:56:12 pm »

paid for . I must admit - it is welll designed. Thanks for giving us this alternative.
I tried to install the app on my wife's Galaxy S5, it asked for payment again. I backed out of it.
I know you pay for app once.
How do I put this on my wife's phone without paying a second time?

Thanks again.

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Re: eos, a remote for JRiver - now for Android!
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2014, 02:17:25 pm »

If you use different google accounts on the two phones, you cannot share purchased applications.
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Re: eos, a remote for JRiver - now for Android!
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2014, 03:09:23 pm »

One other item....

Home screen: Artist - Starts With - R
shows all R artists

The search only works with the first letter, typing a second shows no result

Artist - Starts With - Ru
Shows nothing.

This works fine if using: Favorites - Starts With - Ru

Ken

I just tried this, and haven't seen this behavior. I can type out the full name of any artist in my library while the filter type is set to Starts with and that artist is always visible.

What artists do you have in your library that start with Ru? Do they have an article in front of them (e.g. "An", "The" etc)? eos does a literal "Starts with" on the entire string, it does not do any fancy string processing or tokenizing. (It does ignore case, however.) So, if the artist's name begins with an article, it will not be found. An example - let's assume you have "The Rolling Stones" as an artist:

If you're doing "Starts with" filtering:
-If you type in "Rol", you will not find The Rolling Stones, since the name begins with "The " and not "Rol"
-If you type in "The Rol", the The Rolling Stones will appear
-If you type in "The Rol " (notice the space after the final "L"), you will NOT find The Rolling Stones, since there is no space in the full artist name

If you're doing "Contains" filtering:
-If you type in "Rol", you'll find The Rolling Stones. You'll also find bands like Finntroll (FinntROLl)
-If you type in "Rol ", you will NOT find The Rolling Stones (same as above)
-If you type in "Rol The", you won't find The Rolling Stones, but you'd find a band called Control The Sun (if such a band existed in your library)

I hope this helps to clarify!

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« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2014, 04:36:41 pm »

App crashes whatever I try to do. HTC ONE Desire. Pictures, audio, video, al list well, but once an item is tapped the app immediately crashes.
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« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2014, 04:53:53 pm »

App crashes whatever I try to do. HTC ONE Desire. Pictures, audio, video, al list well, but once an item is tapped the app immediately crashes.

I checked the crash reports for both the free app and the paid app, but I don't see any reports from an HTC One. Which app are you referring to - the free or the paid? If it's the paid app, are you attempting device playback, or are you trying to control playback on the JRiver server?

If you can reproduce the issue and you're prompted to submit a bug report, can please do so? It will help immensely in trying to track down your issue.

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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2014, 04:58:31 pm »

If you use different google accounts on the two phones, you cannot share purchased applications.

I will have to set up my account on my wife's phone if it is possible.
I have not used goggle account in almost 18 months, so I really have forgotten the limitations.

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« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2014, 05:33:25 pm »

Thanks for the responses to my earlier post.

More testing of live streams (1.0.1) playing to local device.
- http://shoutcast.2gb.com:80/2gb : "A media player error has occurred"
- http://shoutmedia.abc.net.au:10424/ : crashes eos (logs sent)

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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2014, 07:18:49 pm »

I just tried this, and haven't seen this behavior. I can type out the full name of any artist in my library while the filter type is set to Starts with and that artist is always visible.

What artists do you have in your library that start with Ru? Do they have an article in front of them (e.g. "An", "The" etc)? eos does a literal "Starts with" on the entire string, it does not do any fancy string processing or tokenizing. (It does ignore case, however.) So, if the artist's name begins with an article, it will not be found. An example - let's assume you have "The Rolling Stones" as an artist:

Well Rush for one...

I get different results depending on if it is set to "Favorites" (which works as expected) Or "Artist" (which stops working after first letter)

This is the same behavior on my Asus tablet and Galaxy S5
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« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2014, 07:24:20 pm »

Thanks for the responses to my earlier post.

More testing of live streams (1.0.1) playing to local device.
- http://shoutcast.2gb.com:80/2gb : "A media player error has occurred"
- http://shoutmedia.abc.net.au:10424/ : crashes eos (logs sent)



Ok, I have a fix for the crash. I'll submit version 1.0.2 shortly.

I tried streaming "http://shoutcast.2gb.com:80/2gb" myself, playing it back on the device through eos. I only experienced the "A media player error has occurred" issue when transcoding was enabled. When disabled, the stream plays back as expected, although it does take a while (~10 seconds) before playback starts.

The larger issue is that eos isn't handling web streams properly. I've never used a web stream, so this went completely untested. Currently, eos is requesting that MC forwards the web stream, instead of going directly to the source of the stream. When conversion is enabled, MC is not returning a stream, which explains the error.

I'll have to spend some time figuring out how to properly support this. For now, version 1.0.2 will fix the crash, but disabling audio conversion is the only workaround to play streams on your device.

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« Reply #62 on: June 22, 2014, 07:39:29 pm »

Well Rush for one...

I get different results depending on if it is set to "Favorites" (which works as expected) Or "Artist" (which stops working after first letter)

This is the same behavior on my Asus tablet and Galaxy S5

Very strange. Does this problem occur for all artists in the "Artist" category, or just Rush? My initial impression is that there's something wrong with the tags - for example, a non-standard character in the artist name instead of 'u' - but I can't be certain. Is Favorites a custom view that you've set up in MC? I don't see it in my list.
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« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2014, 07:53:47 pm »

Very strange. Does this problem occur for all artists in the "Artist" category, or just Rush? My initial impression is that there's something wrong with the tags - for example, a non-standard character in the artist name instead of 'u' - but I can't be certain. Is Favorites a custom view that you've set up in MC? I don't see it in my list.

Ah..this must be something to do with how I had my Gizmo views set up. Did not think of that. Looking at them I can see the search fails on my Artist view since it uses a grouping of 1, my Favorites does not use grouping. 

Thanks, didn't think the Customized view would affect searching.....

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« Reply #64 on: June 22, 2014, 08:04:13 pm »

Ah..this must be something to do with how I had my Gizmo views set up. Did not think of that. Looking at them I can see the search fails on my Artist view since it uses a grouping of 1, my Favorites does not use grouping. 

Thanks, didn't think the Customized view would affect searching.....

Ken

Your custom view shouldn't affect the filtering that's available when viewing a grid list. eos should be looking at the text of every item, and comparing that with what you typed in the filter field.
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« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2014, 08:25:06 pm »

Would you be willing to set up a custom view to check.

"Artist" - grouping of 1
"Artist"
"Album"

Pretty simple to try....
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« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2014, 08:58:28 pm »

Would you be willing to set up a custom view to check.

"Artist" - grouping of 1
"Artist"
"Album"

Pretty simple to try....

I tried setting up my own custom view for Artist. I clicked "Set rules for file display..." and selected Grouping from the first dropdown, my only options are "<empty>" and one of the albums in my library. I tried both, but I was still able to filter as expected.

Can you take screenshots for me so I can see what you're seeing? Ideally, one where you haven't entered any filter text but Rush is visible in the list, one where you've entered R and Rush still appears, and one where you've typed Ru and Rush is no longer in the list.
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« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2014, 09:29:01 pm »

Highlight Artist - click edit


Check grouping box and put 1 as grouping size.
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2014, 09:42:13 pm »

Highlight Artist - click edit

Check grouping box and put 1 as grouping size.

Ah I see what you're doing - you're trying to use the filter box as a search field. The filter box allows you to limit the results that are currently displayed. So if you're currently viewing groupings of A, B, C, D, etc, typing R will reduce the displayed results to R.

If you want to perform a full search of your library, you need to click on the Search option in the navigation drawer.
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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2014, 10:03:49 pm »

Thanks - test more on the Web Streams
- 1.0.2 no longer crashes
- Turning off Audio conversion = webstreams work (but with a long gap till playback starts)
- FYI, I know that in Gizmo MC just hands the link off to the local devices which then plays it

Also here is another pic of the Top Level View I have of that is showing as blank in eos.
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« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2014, 10:13:23 pm »

Ah I see what you're doing - you're trying to use the filter box as a search field. The filter box allows you to limit the results that are currently displayed. So if you're currently viewing groupings of A, B, C, D, etc, typing R will reduce the displayed results to R.

If you want to perform a full search of your library, you need to click on the Search option in the navigation drawer.

Yep... Just threw me for a bit....

Again..Great looking app.... Thanks for your time..

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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2014, 11:04:26 pm »

Thanks - test more on the Web Streams
- 1.0.2 no longer crashes
- Turning off Audio conversion = webstreams work (but with a long gap till playback starts)
- FYI, I know that in Gizmo MC just hands the link off to the local devices which then plays it

Also here is another pic of the Top Level View I have of that is showing as blank in eos.

Thanks for the update, and the screenshot! I've figured out why your custom view isn't showing any items.

eos currently expects all top level items (except for Playlists) to have at least 2 levels under them: the first level are the categories that appear in the dropdown, and the second are the items that should be displayed when a category is selected. It's trying to put the results from your custom top level view into the dropdown, which as you can tell isn't working!

I've just submitted a fix for this - expect v1.0.3 sometime soon.

The fix for the larger streaming issues won't be as trivial, but I hope to have them resolved sometime soon.
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« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2014, 11:18:15 pm »

I checked the crash reports for both the free app and the paid app, but I don't see any reports from an HTC One. Which app are you referring to - the free or the paid? If it's the paid app, are you attempting device playback, or are you trying to control playback on the JRiver server?

If you can reproduce the issue and you're prompted to submit a bug report, can please do so? It will help immensely in trying to track down your issue.

Cheers!

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My post was inaccurate, it was written on my droid, sorry. I will make a better test, and also post bug report(s). Paid version.
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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2014, 01:44:01 am »

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I've just submitted a fix for this - expect v1.0.3 sometime soon.
Thanks - tested and it now works and looks a bit weird (but good in the Playlist) - see pics

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No probs.

Thanks
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« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2014, 09:07:58 pm »

Thanks - tested and it now works and looks a bit weird (but good in the Playlist) - see pics

Just uploaded v1.0.4. This build includes fixes for the display issues in your screenshot, and also includes the change to use the stream's URL directly instead of requesting the stream from MC. Unfortunately, this fix doesn't seem to affect the amount of time it takes for stream playback to start. I did fix the display on the Playing Now page though; eos should correctly display "Buffering..." while stream playback is starting.

This build also fixes another issue I noticed: the Playing Now screen was appearing above the video and image players. You can reproduce this in the current version: if you have device playback enabled and select a video from a browse list Playing Now appears, but video playback doesn't automatically start. When you hit back the video starts playing, because the video screen was actually underneath Playing Now.

I should note that the fix for Nathan's display issues impact all custom top-level Views. They'll now show in the same way that Playlists do (including the Playing Now playlist): when you drill down to the bottom level and are viewing files, each file row will show the cover art, and the number that is displayed will be the item's index in the list instead of the value for track number (if it's an audio track).

Cheers!

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« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2014, 11:47:10 pm »

Thanks looks pretty good and great turnaround as usual - quick test of the web links
- Playback for me is immediate (it may be just you are a long way away!)
- Playback of the AAC streams is fine
- Playback of the MP3 streams is erroring out "A media player error has occurred:1"
- When first playing a Stream From that top level view, the Coverart and Title being displayed is from the wrong stream (not the corresponding one for the stream that is playing).  If I then select others from the Playlist View it is then correct (if that makes sense)

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« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2014, 01:01:33 am »

I've attached some screen shots.
- EOS1: This shows the contents of the "Radio and TV Stations" top level view.  Looks Perfect (well I don't know about the 0:00 behind the 2GB station if that matters)
- EOS2: In this shot I've just started playing the 2DayFM stream (you can see it in the title bar), but it is showing in the main screen the 7 Digital Thumbnail and Name
- EOS3: When rotated you can see the rest of the list with the correct icons
- EOS4: I now select the Nova Channel and it displays the correct Coverart and Title.  If I rotate my phone back to Vertical it will the stream will stay on Nova but the Coverart and Title will change back to that in EOS2.
- MCEos:  I'm "guessing" here but I bet that the persistant 7 Digital details during rotation is that eos is pulling the "Album"/"Top"/"First"?? cover art and name not that for the individual "Track"?  I say this as in MC Std View you see the 7 logo on the top but when you play a link the correct one shows up the the Display.
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« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2014, 05:12:39 pm »

I've attached some screen shots.

Thanks for the screenshots Nathan! I was able to reproduce, and I've found the cause. Looks like I broke this when fixing another bug in 1.0.4 - oops! Fixed version 1.0.5 has been pushed to Google Play.
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« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2014, 07:40:58 pm »

Thanks - I can confirm that the coverart and title is now correct.
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« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2014, 12:32:00 pm »

Really enjoying this app.

Would it be possible to have the left and right arrow in the Theater View remote to repeat if held down, like the arrow keys on the keyboard work. Would be really nice for the cover flow screen.

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« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2014, 08:32:13 pm »

Would it be possible to have the left and right arrow in the Theater View remote to repeat if held down, like the arrow keys on the keyboard work. Would be really nice for the cover flow screen.

Ken

Definitely possible; I just finished implementing it! You can hold Up, Down, Left, Right, Page Up, or Page Down and it will continue to perform the button presses until you release. This change will be included in the next build, which I'll push in the next few days - just trying to work through some of the streaming issues first.

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« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2014, 08:43:22 pm »

Definitely possible; I just finished implementing it! You can hold Up, Down, Left, Right, Page Up, or Page Down and it will continue to perform the button presses until you release. This change will be included in the next build, which I'll push in the next few days - just trying to work through some of the streaming issues first.

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Greetings:

I am writing to let you know that I am really enjoying the eos android app.
Anyway to get cover arts description for music and videos. When we highlight or select a cover art, we see the related text or info for that cd or bd disc.

Also any way to scale the sizes of the cover arts for music similar to what we have in Gizmo
It will be good to have the eos version number display on the screen.
Thanks.

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« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2014, 09:17:08 pm »

Definitely possible; I just finished implementing it!
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Very nice !!
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« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2014, 09:50:05 pm »

I am writing to let you know that I am really enjoying the eos android app.
Glad to hear it George!

Anyway to get cover arts description for music and videos. When we highlight or select a cover art, we see the related text or info for that cd or bd disc.
No, this isn't possible. There's a web method to get the cover art for a browse item, but there's no description or other contextual information associated with a browse item or its cover art.

Also any way to scale the sizes of the cover arts for music similar to what we have in Gizmo
This currently isn't possible either. The size of a grid item does scale with the resolution of the device it is running on, so items are larger on tablets than they are on phones. I spent a fair bit of time trying to make them the optimal size for touch interaction and visibility. I don't think I want to make this adjustable - any smaller and it'll be more difficult to accurately select an item, while if they were any larger you'd only be able to see 2 items per row, drastically limiting the number of items you can see on screen at once.

It will be good to have the eos version number display on the screen.
The version number is displayed on the About page, which is accessible from the Settings page (press the About button in the action bar).
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« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2014, 09:50:22 am »

Hey.
Tested this new app on my phone and is quite nice. Have some features that Gizmo missing and same around the app missing some features on Eos. I suppose you will update this app and add new features like "Play Doctor".
Looking forward to see new features on the app.
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« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2014, 06:22:18 pm »

Hey.
Tested this new app on my phone and is quite nice. Have some features that Gizmo missing and same around the app missing some features on Eos. I suppose you will update this app and add new features like "Play Doctor".
Looking forward to see new features on the app.
You can look forward to Play Doctor support in the next version of eos, which should be available by the end of the weekend.

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« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2014, 02:30:34 pm »

App crashes whatever I try to do. HTC ONE Desire. Pictures, audio, video, al list well, but once an item is tapped the app immediately crashes.

Updated info: Paid version, HTC One Desire (I think, its my employers' phone). Crashes when I try to play photos. Photo thumbs are not showing.

But now I have been testing it a little on my brand new SONY Xperia Z2, and it works really well. No problem starting a movie from anywhere in my HT. Not tested with other media yet.
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« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2014, 04:58:27 pm »

I'd like to try this but I am unable to find it via either a Samsung Galaxy S3 or an Amazon Kindle Fire HD.  Any help, specific name of the app, etc., would be appreciated.
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« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2014, 10:32:51 am »

Excellent!
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« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2014, 11:59:35 am »

Do you plan to add customizable views? Personally, I'd prefer a listview with a list of artists, which when an artist is selected, goes to the available albums then when you click on the Album it displays the tracks without album art showing for the artists list view (but shown next to albums and songs).
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« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2014, 12:17:01 pm »

Updated info: Paid version, HTC One Desire (I think, its my employers' phone). Crashes when I try to play photos. Photo thumbs are not showing.

But now I have been testing it a little on my brand new SONY Xperia Z2, and it works really well. No problem starting a movie from anywhere in my HT. Not tested with other media yet.
Hey Trumpetguy,

I've seen a crash report on a device "A1-810 Mango", but it occurred before playback was attempted. That crash happened when attempting to view a list of files, when one of the files had the key "E flat" instead of the numeric key eos was expecting. (If this sounds familiar to someone on this thread, please let me know - I'm curious to see what your library looks like!)

Which version of eos is your HTC running? You can check by going into the About page, which is accessible from Settings.
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« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2014, 12:23:07 pm »

Do you plan to add customizable views? Personally, I'd prefer a listview with a list of artists, which when an artist is selected, goes to the available albums then when you click on the Album it displays the tracks without album art showing for the artists list view (but shown next to albums and songs).
Sorry Awesome Donkey, I don't have any plans to implement customizable views right now.
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« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2014, 03:40:24 pm »

Hey Trumpetguy,

I've seen a crash report on a device "A1-810 Mango", but it occurred before playback was attempted. That crash happened when attempting to view a list of files, when one of the files had the key "E flat" instead of the numeric key eos was expecting.

That's probably me. I sent a crash report yesterday, and the device is an A1-810, don't know about Mango!

My music collection is mainly classical and one of the custom fields that I have in my catalogue is "key", so when it crashed it was looking at Beethoven's Symphony No 3 in E flat. I've been using JRiver since 2003, so my "key" field's been there a long time. I didn't know that there was a visible JRiver standard field called "key", perhaps it's new.

Incidentally, your program won't play ape or flac files on the device, comes up with error 262. I think I saw something upthread about transcoding being disabled, but presumably it will be re-enabled soon.
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« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2014, 03:52:51 pm »

Something I am noticing that is more of a nit-pick, but wasn't a problem I had noticed in the past or with Gizmo.

I have eos on 6 devices (eos as BB10 on 2 Z10 phones, and eos as Android on 4 Nexus 7 tablets).  If the patio tablet launches and starts zone "patio" playing, and then the Master bedroom launches and starts zone "master bedroom" playing, followed by the garage launching the garage zone, if I go back to the patio and try to skip tracks or edit the playlist that was playing on the patio it causes MC to hang.  Nothing crashes per se, but MC just goes unresponsive and I need to launch Task Manager in Windows in order to shut MC down and restart it.  It happens fairly consistently, and I have found the general problem I think.

The patio, when it was first started had the active zone as PATIO.  However by the time there are several instances of eos running throughout the house, the patio instance of eos now believes it has an active zone of GARAGE (from the example above), yet is still playing the playlist for the patio.  If I don't do anything to modify the patio Playing Now (ie skip a track, change playlists, or adjust volume -- actually the adjust volume is for the BB10 version) then the patio will continue to play the playlist without problem or issue.

For clarity I should state that the one instance of eos that will not hang MC when multiple instances are running is the one that was last started.  Or I the user remembers from within eos to first verify the zone it is controlling, before doing anything with the Playing Now Screen.

Gizmo seems to keep track of this some how.  So the patio tablet is basically always controlling the PATIO zone when Gizmo is started -- unless a user a purposely gone and modified the zone.  For the way we use these tablets, they mostly stay in one area, and therefore "stay" controlling a single zone.  It is the phones and one other tablet that tend to switch zones and link zones a great deal.
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« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2014, 07:22:30 pm »

That's probably me. I sent a crash report yesterday, and the device is an A1-810, don't know about Mango!

My music collection is mainly classical and one of the custom fields that I have in my catalogue is "key", so when it crashed it was looking at Beethoven's Symphony No 3 in E flat. I've been using JRiver since 2003, so my "key" field's been there a long time. I didn't know that there was a visible JRiver standard field called "key", perhaps it's new.

Incidentally, your program won't play ape or flac files on the device, comes up with error 262. I think I saw something upthread about transcoding being disabled, but presumably it will be re-enabled soon.
Thanks for the info Bill!

The "Key" field that I'm referring to is the unique identifier for each item in your media library. MC returns this value in its web service responses, and eos uses it to request items. Until your crash report, I had only seen this value refer to this unique ID. Since you've added a custom field called Key MC is also returning that value, and the numeric value is being overwritten. I've just implemented a fix, which will be included in the next build (the build after 1.0.9, which I just pushed to production).

I don't have any APE files, but my entire library is FLAC and they play just fine on both a Nexus 7 and Xperia Z2. The transcoding issues you're referring to are related to streaming media from internet radio stations and don't affect streaming files from your library; you can safely enable audio transcoding to play these files on your device.

I'm very rapidly learning that Android's support for different media types varies greatly by device, and even OS version. Do the same files play in Gizmo? If so, I would wager that the folks at JRiver have used a library to provide device playback in Gizmo, rather than relying on the platform's very patchy support.
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« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2014, 07:34:55 pm »

Something I am noticing that is more of a nit-pick, but wasn't a problem I had noticed in the past or with Gizmo.

I have eos on 6 devices (eos as BB10 on 2 Z10 phones, and eos as Android on 4 Nexus 7 tablets).  If the patio tablet launches and starts zone "patio" playing, and then the Master bedroom launches and starts zone "master bedroom" playing, followed by the garage launching the garage zone, if I go back to the patio and try to skip tracks or edit the playlist that was playing on the patio it causes MC to hang.  Nothing crashes per se, but MC just goes unresponsive and I need to launch Task Manager in Windows in order to shut MC down and restart it.  It happens fairly consistently, and I have found the general problem I think.

The patio, when it was first started had the active zone as PATIO.  However by the time there are several instances of eos running throughout the house, the patio instance of eos now believes it has an active zone of GARAGE (from the example above), yet is still playing the playlist for the patio.  If I don't do anything to modify the patio Playing Now (ie skip a track, change playlists, or adjust volume -- actually the adjust volume is for the BB10 version) then the patio will continue to play the playlist without problem or issue.

For clarity I should state that the one instance of eos that will not hang MC when multiple instances are running is the one that was last started.  Or I the user remembers from within eos to first verify the zone it is controlling, before doing anything with the Playing Now Screen.

Gizmo seems to keep track of this some how.  So the patio tablet is basically always controlling the PATIO zone when Gizmo is started -- unless a user a purposely gone and modified the zone.  For the way we use these tablets, they mostly stay in one area, and therefore "stay" controlling a single zone.  It is the phones and one other tablet that tend to switch zones and link zones a great deal.
Hey Randy,

eos' "active zone" control actually changes the active zone of MC (unless, of course, you've chosen the Device zone). From what you describe, I would infer that when you change zones in Gizmo isn't actually changing the active zone of your MC instance: Gizmo is just issuing commands to tell MC to alter playback in another zone.

Do you have an instance of MC running on multiple PCs - one PC in the patio, one PC in the master bedroom, etc? If not, how are the zones created, and what is the playback device for each? Does the BB10 version of eos exhibit the same behavior as the Android version? Are any of these zones linked?
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« Reply #97 on: July 04, 2014, 07:51:30 pm »

My music collection is mainly classical and one of the custom fields that I have in my catalogue is "key", so when it crashed it was looking at Beethoven's Symphony No 3 in E flat. I've been using JRiver since 2003, so my "key" field's been there a long time. I didn't know that there was a visible JRiver standard field called "key", perhaps it's new.
Bill, I just pushed version 1.0.10 to Google Play, which should fix your crash. It should be available in a few hours.
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« Reply #98 on: July 06, 2014, 02:53:08 pm »

Yes, that's fixed the crash, thanks.
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« Reply #99 on: July 06, 2014, 03:50:48 pm »

Really enjoying this app.

Would it be possible to have the left and right arrow in the Theater View remote to repeat if held down, like the arrow keys on the keyboard work. Would be really nice for the cover flow screen.

Ken

Thanks for this... Could the repeat be a bit faster, or accelerate on duration of time down? It still takes a bit to get to the end of a longer cover in the cover flow...

Thanks again..

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