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blgentry

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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #100 on: July 14, 2015, 07:19:39 am »

If your arguments were true, then more people would care about video - which they apparently don't, judging from the feedback on this forum. Or its just that perfect that we don't need to get any feedback on it.

There is a MAJOR logical flaw in your thinking.  If a feature isn't worth using, because it doesn't work well enough to be useable, people just won't use it.  If MC *only* supported video and not audio, people would be screaming for you to fix it.  Because it's unusable for many people.  Why?  Because full screen mode puts a GIANT GREY RECTANGLE at the top of the screen and keeps one from being able to use the playback controls.  That's not minor or "an edge case".

In recent builds the rectangle and the cursor disappear after a short time.  This is good.  But it all looks like a work in progress; which I guess it is.  It makes me personally not want to use it because it's so clearly "broken".

Lest you think I'm bitching and complaining and demanding a fix... I am not.  I don't use video support for MC and I didn't buy it for that reason.  I bought MC for audio only.  If it did video really well... I'd be really happy!  I'd use it for video all the time.  But if I had my choice, I'd rather have the audio bugs fixed first.

I'm only writing this to point out that people won't use stuff that doesn't work properly.   ...and people who don't use a feature, don't complain about it.

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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #101 on: July 14, 2015, 07:59:48 am »

There is a MAJOR logical flaw in your thinking.  If a feature isn't worth using, because it doesn't work well enough to be useable, people just won't use it.

If that would be true, I would imagine people would at least say so. So my conclusion can only be that not many people actually seem to care.
If I would care about a feature that doesn't work properly, I would report it as a problem. People do that all the time with other features, afterall. The number of people giving any feedback on video is like below 10.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2015, 08:44:50 am »

If that would be true, I would imagine people would at least say so. So my conclusion can only be that not many people actually seem to care.
If I would care about a feature that doesn't work properly, I would report it as a problem. People do that all the time with other features, afterall. The number of people giving any feedback on video is like below 10.

Having a grey box on the screen while watching video is not an annoyance, it renders video unusable except for cataloging.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2015, 08:47:28 am »

I bought MC for audio only.
Hendrik,
I think this is the main reason we're not getting more feedback.

Maybe you've posted somewhere else, but the grey rectangle seems like the next problem to fix if it isn't a video driver problem.

The mouse cursor should be fixed soon.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #104 on: July 14, 2015, 08:49:23 am »

Maybe you've posted somewhere else, but the grey rectangle seems like the next problem to fix if it isn't a video driver problem.

John once said he wanted to have a look at that with Matt, since they have the expertise dealing with Mac window-painting weirdness.
Maybe a good time to push that further up the list soon.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #105 on: July 14, 2015, 09:00:25 am »

OK.  Thanks.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #106 on: July 14, 2015, 09:33:53 am »

Hendrik,
I think this is the main reason we're not getting more feedback.
I think you are wrong. Video support for Linux (I don't have Mac) just isn't on satisfactory level yet.

I have no time or interest to beta test it at this point. I just bought master lisence to support Linux development further. I'll start to use Linux version with dedicated box when feature set suits me better. For now I just use windows. I think that you have enough feedback what to do to make video interesting on Linux/Mac.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #107 on: July 14, 2015, 12:24:57 pm »

The cursor issue and the gray rectangle problem have both been fixed and will be in the next build.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #108 on: July 14, 2015, 02:01:04 pm »

The cursor issue and the gray rectangle problem have both been fixed and will be in the next build.

Adamt,  thank you for this progress.

And what about subtitles support?  
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #109 on: July 14, 2015, 02:03:06 pm »

And what about subtitles support?  How many unsatisfied customers extra you need for it?

It was already stated numerous times that subtitle support is being worked on and will be available in MC21.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #110 on: July 14, 2015, 02:10:33 pm »

You made my day...  
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2015, 11:33:57 am »

Maybe subtitles are not  important for English native speakers but the rest of the world needs subtitles. I am an European and almost 95% of the movies  I watch are foreign ones and almost half of them non-English. As I have written before lack of subtitles  support kills a need for "media center" on mac as I have to use Vlc anyway and there are  other options for audio.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2015, 12:15:42 pm »

It was already stated numerous times that subtitle support is being worked on and will be available in MC21.
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Re: Feedback on Video Support in MC for Mac
« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2015, 02:45:11 pm »

I'll bump this since it's relevant...

Subtitles support is in MC21 for Mac - find it in the MC21 for Mac section of the forums! :)
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