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AFMagana

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Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« on: January 26, 2015, 06:22:15 pm »

Hi, I'm new here and with JRiver. It's amazing and has helped much with my large library and I'm still finding new things I can do with it. But there's some doubts I have:

My files include MP3s and AAC files and I've synced then to my MotoG android phone to play them with Rocket Player. I've done 'Analyze Audio' in JRiver, updated the tags, activated the DSP option once again in the Device options for the sync, and turned on 'Replay Gain' on Rocket Player. Yet, I've found AAC files are louder than MP3 ones. That tells me something is not working as intended, and you might help me understand what it is or what can I do. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 11:46:05 am »

We set replaygain_track_gain on the MP4 (AAC) files.

So I don't know...
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 11:50:40 am »

Hi, I'm new here and with JRiver. It's amazing and has helped much with my large library and I'm still finding new things I can do with it. But there's some doubts I have:

My files include MP3s and AAC files and I've synced then to my MotoG android phone to play them with Rocket Player. I've done 'Analyze Audio' in JRiver, updated the tags, activated the DSP option once again in the Device options for the sync, and turned on 'Replay Gain' on Rocket Player. Yet, I've found AAC files are louder than MP3 ones. That tells me something is not working as intended, and you might help me understand what it is or what can I do. Thanks in advance.

Don't enable replaygain in the handheld sync DSP if you are using replaygain tags and a compatible player.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 11:54:08 am »

Don't enable replaygain in the handheld sync DSP if you are using replaygain tags and a compatible player.

Ok, but I've tried both, still sounds like the aac is louder.

But now that you mentioned "compatible", I've assumed Rocket Player on Android uses replaygain on AAC... let me check.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 11:55:16 am »

Also, make sure to clear your conversion cache after messing with the handheld sync DSP settings.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 12:16:42 pm »

Well, I've been reading the Rocket player FAQs and everything... it only says it uses Replaygain, no word if it's only on mp3, which I'm gonna assume, since the tags exist on the files.

Also, should I leave Adaptative Volume DSP off from the sync also? Thanks for all your answers.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 12:20:50 pm »

Any volume-changing in DSP might invalidate the replaygain data, so its best to leave them off.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 12:49:38 pm »

Thanks, will do. Should I ask how to empty the cache too or is something I could find in the FAQs? Thanks once again for all the help.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 12:52:51 pm »

Thanks, will do. Should I ask how to empty the cache too or is something I could find in the FAQs? Thanks once again for all the help.

1. Find the cache location: Tools>options>File Location>Conversion Cache>Audio

2. Locate folder in Windows Explorer and delete it.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 01:27:59 pm »

Thanks. Found it and it's empty.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2015, 09:56:47 am »

Any recommendations for a player on Android that would make the perfect match for JRiver?
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 11:05:23 am »

Any recommendations for a player on Android that would make the perfect match for JRiver?

Check out SmartVanilla Music.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 01:47:15 am »

But I don't have an smart watch...
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 09:34:57 am »

The original Vanilla Music was abandoned but the fork for the smartwatch lives on. It doesn't mean you need to actually use a smartwatch; the program works great by itself. It's one of the few android music players that supports Replaygain and scrobbling and actually has a clean interface.
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Re: Replaygain, mp3, m4a and Android.
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2015, 02:39:16 pm »

So Here's a challenge:  A good music player that will work with my Samsung Transform (first version), which is Android Version 2.2.2.  SmartVanilla Music looks good but requires Android Version 4.03 and up. 
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