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BradATIMA

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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #100 on: October 24, 2018, 04:28:25 pm »

What are you entering for "Path to the share"? What is the exact name of the public folder as it appears on your network? What are you entering for "Directory name on this machine"?
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #101 on: October 24, 2018, 06:45:51 pm »

Hi Brad, thanks for jumping in, but I just got it.

It turns out that I had renamed the NAS as "NAS" and the software wanted it entered as TNAS-006537.

Along with the //192.168.1.30/public.

So I'm in, and thanks to everyone!

Mike.
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Drive mounted (thanks!) but can't connect to the NAS drive.
« Reply #102 on: October 25, 2018, 09:00:36 am »

Hi again folks.

External media menu 12 shows:

1  //192.168.1.30/Public/Progressive    /mnt/TNAS-006537     -oro,credentials
=/home/media/52e73bcef264adb3c276ad21ccc086ec

Option 13 shows:

Available Shares

Hit ENTER to return...(Available Shares is blank.)

And the JRiver Media Center Id has a message:

Error resolving 'jriver.com': Name or service not known

How (or maybe more importantly; where) do I point the library to to get the software to access the drive?

File...Library...Connect to remote library... Library server (with access key) shows nothing

'Local Library' 'Browse' shows cifsmounts (greyed out) a long hex number (also greyed) another long hex (greyed) A Folder= Video )not greyed, but empty and so on.

Thanks as always.

Mike
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Re: Drive mounted (thanks!) but can't connect to the NAS drive.
« Reply #103 on: October 25, 2018, 09:20:29 am »

Hi again folks.

External media menu 12 shows:

1  //192.168.1.30/Public/Progressive    /mnt/TNAS-006537     -oro,credentials
=/home/media/52e73bcef264adb3c276ad21ccc086ec

Option 13 shows:

Available Shares

Hit ENTER to return...(Available Shares is blank.)

And the JRiver Media Center Id has a message:

Error resolving 'jriver.com': Name or service not known

How (or maybe more importantly; where) do I point the library to to get the software to access the drive?

File...Library...Connect to remote library... Library server (with access key) shows nothing

'Local Library' 'Browse' shows cifsmounts (greyed out) a long hex number (also greyed) another long hex (greyed) A Folder= Video )not greyed, but empty and so on.

Thanks as always.

Mike
After you added the share did you reboot the Id? It won't be mounted until the reboot.
Also make totally sure on the case of the share. I noticed above you referenced it in on place as public and another as Public

Once you have the share mounted properly, you will just treat it as a local filesystem in MC on the Id, not as a loadable library (those are for DLNA servers and MC library servers).
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #104 on: October 25, 2018, 02:02:15 pm »

I must not have it loaded properly, although media menu 12 shows:

1  //192.168.1.30/Public/Progressive    /mnt/TNAS-006537     -oro,credentials
=/home/media/52e73bcef264adb3c276ad21ccc086ec

Going to File> open media file>gets me cifsmounts (grayed out) 130 bytes.

cifsmounts has the correct URL, but isn't selectable.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2018, 02:39:01 pm »

If you've rebooted the Id, you can access the folders on the NAS from /mnt. In the file browser, click on Computer and open the mnt folder. In that folder, you should see TNAS-006537, which should show the files in "Public/Progressive."
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2018, 04:10:27 pm »

Thanks Brad, you got it!

Now to set up the other one.

Thanks for all the advice and particularly your indulgence for a newb.

How do I set that file to the audio library, so it knows to look there?
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2018, 07:42:37 am »

Thanks Brad, you got it!

Now to set up the other one.

Thanks for all the advice and particularly your indulgence for a newb.

How do I set that file to the audio library, so it knows to look there?
Add the mount point to the auto-import settings in MC under Tools->Import
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2018, 07:04:38 pm »

Your levels of magnificence continue to rise. (You're probably tired of hearing that)

Thanks everyone.

Mike
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2019, 06:43:48 pm »

I'm trying to get my id up and running again. Successfully upgraded to MC24.
Now trying to mount my Synology NAS DS412+.  The NAS is working fine on my Windows machine with MC25.

I followed the instructions as far as I can tell accessing the "External Media Menu".
> Add
> My NAS music directory appears as Music (\\nas) (S:)  under "This PC".
> So here is the following sequence I followed:
- Path to share = //nas/Music ( I've also tried //NAS/
- Directory name on this machine (assuming this means Id) - mynas
- Read-Only..ro
- Access //nas/Music as guest user - y
And received "Failure" response.

Also, it looks like "NAS" is listed as one of the libraries on MC along with other libraries i.e. Main Library, etc.  It is described as -" 'NAS" is a DLNA library from a device on the network."
I'm sure I'm entering something incorrectly.
BTW, I can see the id listed as a "DMA" in the Device List of the Synology Media Server package so at least the NAS knows the id is there.

Any help would be appreciated.  Spending way too much time futzing with this.

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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2019, 08:15:12 am »

I'm trying to get my id up and running again. Successfully upgraded to MC24.
Now trying to mount my Synology NAS DS412+.  The NAS is working fine on my Windows machine with MC25.

I followed the instructions as far as I can tell accessing the "External Media Menu".
> Add
> My NAS music directory appears as Music (\\nas) (S:)  under "This PC".
> So here is the following sequence I followed:
- Path to share = //nas/Music ( I've also tried //NAS/
- Directory name on this machine (assuming this means Id) - mynas
- Read-Only..ro
- Access //nas/Music as guest user - y
And received "Failure" response.

This looks fine. Are you sure the NAS is mountable as guest?
What did you answer to the question about it being a "windows" share?

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Also, it looks like "NAS" is listed as one of the libraries on MC along with other libraries i.e. Main Library, etc.  It is described as -" 'NAS" is a DLNA library from a device on the network."
I'm sure I'm entering something incorrectly.
BTW, I can see the id listed as a "DMA" in the Device List of the Synology Media Server package so at least the NAS knows the id is there.

Any help would be appreciated.  Spending way too much time futzing with this.
The NAS is also showing up as a DLNA library on your Id. You CAN access it that way but you'll get more flexibility if you can get the file share to work.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2019, 01:09:21 pm »

Bob,
This looks fine. Are you sure the NAS is mountable as guest?
What did you answer to the question about it being a "windows" share?
The NAS is also showing up as a DLNA library on your Id. You CAN access it that way but you'll get more flexibility if you can get the file share to work.

> For “windows share” option I’ve tried both.  What should it be?
> I’m not sure whether the NAS is mountable as a guest.  When I set up the NFS permissions on the NAS that was not an explicit option.

Also, I noticed on the the NAS NFS permissions page that “mount path” = /volume1/Music
Do I need to include that in the “path to share” field?

I assume I have the correct IP address for the Id for the NAS permissions - 192.168.1.149

Thanks
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2019, 02:15:49 pm »

Bob,> For “windows share” option I’ve tried both.  What should it be?
> I’m not sure whether the NAS is mountable as a guest.  When I set up the NFS permissions on the NAS that was not an explicit option.

Also, I noticed on the the NAS NFS permissions page that “mount path” = /volume1/Music
Do I need to include that in the “path to share” field?

I assume I have the correct IP address for the Id for the NAS permissions - 192.168.1.149

Thanks
It should NOT be set as a windows share since the NAS is almost certainly running linux.
The Id will try to mount the volume as cifs/samba, not NFS. What path is setup on the NAS for cifs/samba?
Do you have guest access enabled for that?
When setting it up on Windows did you need to enter a name/password?
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #113 on: March 25, 2019, 07:30:22 pm »

OK Bob, got 'er working.  Problem was on the NAS end.

SMB was always enabled since that is what's used for Win and Mac anyway.
I went a bit deeper into the guest account permissions and saw that an option - "Disable this account", then sub-option -"Immediately" was checked for some reason!  WTF.  Maybe as a security measure or something I guess.  Unchecked that and seemed to do the trick.

At any rate, the following Add sequence worked:
Share path- //NAS/Music
Directory name on this machine - mynas w RW permision
Is this a Windows computer - No
Access as guest user - y
This time it worked, with Id directory /mnt/mynas.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2019, 12:29:35 pm »

Hey,
I tried to install my ID Pi and to mount a my Synology NAS but was not successfull. I think I entered everything correct. But all i get i FAILURE.
See the attached jpg. I am clueless at the moment what i can do, to fix this. Maybe there is some hint for me.

best regards

Peter

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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2019, 02:38:12 pm »

Hey,
I tried to install my ID Pi and to mount a my Synology NAS but was not successfull. I think I entered everything correct. But all i get i FAILURE.
See the attached jpg. I am clueless at the moment what i can do, to fix this. Maybe there is some hint for me.

best regards

Peter
Everything looks fine to me.
Have you tried it read-only (ro)?
Does it connect with the same parameters from a Windows or Mac computer??
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #116 on: May 04, 2019, 01:01:31 am »

Hello Bob,

I tried everything. It also works on my Windows and Mac computer and on my old MC 20 Id Pi Installation. See the attached picture. Dont care about the path 192.168.0.25/Music instead of ...../Musik in the prevoius screenshot. I did a misspelling when i made it. It also does not work with the right spelling. Dont know whats wrong

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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #117 on: May 06, 2019, 08:44:20 am »

Hello Bob,

I tried everything. It also works on my Windows and Mac computer and on my old MC 20 Id Pi Installation. See the attached picture. Dont care about the path 192.168.0.25/Music instead of ...../Musik in the prevoius screenshot. I did a misspelling when i made it. It also does not work with the right spelling. Dont know whats wrong

best regards

Peter
Hi Peter,
One thing to note is that it's case sensitive (ie music vs Music).
If it still doesn't work send me a PM please.

Thanks,
Bob
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2019, 11:41:45 am »

Hi,

I have just had to replace my WD 4TB drive that has failed due to an intermittent connection on the Socket that goes in the side of the drive caddy.

I have replaced it with the equivalent Seagate one.

I’m having problems getting the the ID NUC to recognise this reliably. The drive is a clone of my Synology  NAS that I use at home with just under 30,000 files on it.

When I try to do an import to the NUC it whizzes through a couple of thousand then MC closes and restarts.

If I look at what it has managed to import ii is only cover art no music at all.

I have today rebuilt the Nuc from the repair image and done an update to to .123 and it still behaves the same way.



The files system on the Seagate is ext 4 as it was formatted on the Synology.

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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #119 on: December 09, 2019, 10:52:56 am »

Hi,

I have just had to replace my WD 4TB drive that has failed due to an intermittent connection on the Socket that goes in the side of the drive caddy.

I have replaced it with the equivalent Seagate one.

I’m having problems getting the the ID NUC to recognise this reliably. The drive is a clone of my Synology  NAS that I use at home with just under 30,000 files on it.

When I try to do an import to the NUC it whizzes through a couple of thousand then MC closes and restarts.

If I look at what it has managed to import ii is only cover art no music at all.

I have today rebuilt the Nuc from the repair image and done an update to to .123 and it still behaves the same way.

The files system on the Seagate is ext 4 as it was formatted on the Synology.
Unfortunately that's likely a bad file on the new drive. MC on the Id restarts automatically.
The log files produced by MC with logging on would likely find the issue. Since it's restarting it would be the Previous Log.txt file.
You can turn on logging in MC.
Reproduce the problem.
Wait for MC to restart.
Go into logging and hit "Report Problem"
Go to any file in your library, right-click on it and do locate on disk external to get a file browser.
Click on the home icon
Double click on desktop under home.
The zip file to send will be there.
Next in that desktop directory, right-click do Window->Parent, new Window
in that new window, navigate up two levels then to export->media
Drag and drop the log zip file into there.
Now you can retrieve it from a Mac or Windows PC from the Internal Storage share and see what the last file is.
If it's not a totally corrupted file it wight be useful for us to get the log and probably the file.
Thanks.


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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #120 on: January 10, 2020, 12:13:02 pm »

Not sure this is the right topic, but I'm giving a try.

I have my id-pi connected to a usb drive (no issue there)

Besides unhooking it to copy to files to the drive, how would I connect a separate usb drive temporarily and copy the files i want to the main drive?  or import and copy the files at the same time?

Thanks, I have the latest mc25 version 114.

Andy Kessel
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #121 on: January 10, 2020, 12:52:01 pm »

One way to do it would be to use the tool in MC called Rename, Move, & Copy.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #122 on: February 06, 2020, 05:37:27 pm »

Looking at the Id.  I see that there is a version that has a 2TB drive in it.  My music collection is 2.5TB, so the question is twofold...

1) Can a 4TB internal drive be used or,
2) Can an external 4TB USB 3 drive be used?

Thanks, Chris
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #123 on: February 06, 2020, 05:55:26 pm »

You can use an external USB drive.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #124 on: February 07, 2020, 10:40:26 am »

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You can use an external USB drive.

just to be perfectly clear.  There is no 2TB limit on external drives with the ID?

Thanks, Chris
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2020, 01:12:17 pm »

just to be perfectly clear.  There is no 2TB limit on external drives with the ID?

Thanks, Chris
There is no 2TB limit.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2020, 01:24:39 pm »

Thanks!
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #127 on: May 01, 2020, 08:09:46 am »

You have my vote.

Not sure when you added it in, but I see it is there now.  Thanks! It was great to get the old trials out of there. ;)
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #128 on: May 21, 2020, 05:04:16 pm »

Hi,
I have an ID (NUC5CPYH). I installed the latest firmware and bios.

I added an external Samsung Portable SSD T5 (1TB) and enabled the read / write option.

But I can't find the drive in the Home / Media folder. The drive is displayed in the BIOS.

Does anyone have any idea where the error is?

Thanks Mike
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #129 on: May 21, 2020, 05:36:59 pm »

Hi,
I have an ID (NUC5CPYH). I installed the latest firmware and bios.

I added an external Samsung Portable SSD T5 (1TB) and enabled the read / write option.

But I can't find the drive in the Home / Media folder. The drive is displayed in the BIOS.

Does anyone have any idea where the error is?

Thanks Mike

When browsing the file system, on the left you should see a button labeled Filesystem. You want to look under Filesystem/media. You should see a folder there with the external drive name.
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2020, 04:35:15 pm »

When browsing the file system, on the left you should see a button labeled Filesystem. You want to look under Filesystem/media. You should see a folder there with the external drive name.
When I navigate to file system, on the left side I see cdrom0,usb0,Computer. When I choose Computer the folder /media is complete empty.

The same with 20:External Media Menu

1: Enable Read-Write on /media/[label]
reboot
4: Display Status: -> No drive is listed
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #131 on: September 11, 2020, 02:58:13 am »

I deleted NTFS partition and created a new Ext4 with gparted.
Now the external drive is mounted. There seemed a problem with the nfts partition. Although it was available in windows. (read and write)
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #132 on: April 15, 2021, 06:06:01 pm »

Hi,

Longtime JRiver user, but an Id noob.  I've managed to get the NUC set up on my network and I've enabled the connection to external media (using my NAS's IP address then /Multimedia since that's where my sub-folders live for Music and Video).  I got a confirmation it mounted and can see it in option 12 (the Display Configuration).  However, I'm not seeing the NUC in my laptop JRiver "Playing Now" section.  I can see it on the network on my PC though.

So to attempt to make a connection in JRiver, I then added a new library using the access key for the Id that I found in the "panel" webpage that I got to when clicking on the Id icon under Media Devices in the PC's Network page.   However, it's only showing the single "Ghost Dance" music file that is pre-loaded on the NUC, not the contents of my "multimedia" folders on my NAS.

Also, was I supposed to enter the MC ID registration code that came on the slip with the Id somewhere?  I didn't see that in the Install Guide instructions... ? :P

Any tips?
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« Reply #133 on: April 15, 2021, 08:57:04 pm »

Make sure you have Options > Media Network turned on for both machines. 
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Re: NEW: External Media Support (NAS, USB, and Shares)
« Reply #134 on: April 16, 2021, 09:19:11 am »

Make sure you have Options > Media Network turned on for both machines.

Thank you for your response, Jim.  My main issue was that I didn't realize I needed to input the MC ID registration code that came on the slip.  That wasn't in the Install Guide instructions and I had assumed the Id came with JRiver already activated.  Once I figured that out and enabled the GUI option I was able to work within the Id's JRiver program on my TV (with an attached keyboard to the Id) and configure the import options to point to the "mnt" folder in the Id.  I then configured the audio device using HDMI from the Id to the receiver.  I seem to be all set now.
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