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Fred1

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Clicking noise before track begins to play
« on: February 24, 2014, 01:24:23 am »

Whenever i start a track by double clicking or pressing the return button, a little clicking noise (low level) is heard before the track begins to play. MC has to be in the stopped state to produce the clicking noise.
There are no clicks during normal playback of tracks.

This noise is not to be heard when changing tracks by clicking the Next button (or Ctrl-N).

This is true for the Windows version of MC and for the Mac version.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 01:56:52 am »

Refer here:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audio_Playback_Options#Settings
Does adjustment of Play silence at startup for hardware synchronization help or make any difference?
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 11:56:12 am »

Does adjustment of Play silence at startup for hardware synchronization help or make any difference?
No, there is no improvement.

Perhaps i have to say a word about my environment:
I don't use any DAC, but the optical SPDif output of my motherboard (GigaByte) into my Yamaha AVR.

Output method is WASAPI which is the only choice for the driver.
I also tried "Disable event style" with no success.

There's the same Problem with MC for Mac.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 12:12:13 pm »

After the troubleshooting steps you have taken, this usually indicates that it's the hardware causing this. (probably the AVR)
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 12:40:43 pm »

That's sad news but fortunately it doesn't happen when MC plays the tracks sequentially (from a playlist for example). Then there are no clicks between the tracks.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 03:32:21 pm »

Perhaps i have to say a word about my environment:
I don't use any DAC, but the optical SPDif output of my motherboard (GigaByte) into my Yamaha AVR.

Output method is WASAPI which is the only choice for the driver.
I also tried "Disable event style" with no success.

Does your mobo have an HDMI output port as well as a SPDIF? Reason why I ask is that i can play via HDMI to my Yamaha AVR without any clicking issues.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 10:03:48 am »

No, unfortunately there is no HDMI output on my motherboard, so i can't try.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 10:10:53 am »

After the troubleshooting steps you have taken, this usually indicates that it's the hardware causing this. (probably the AVR)
I agree with this.

You could try using MC's DSP Studio/Output Format to set the output to 44.1/16.  If that works try higher ones.

I had a receiver once that had minor noise if played at 192K but none at 96K.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 10:28:55 am »

I set the output format to 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 96kHz and 192kHz.
Didn't change anything, however - the click before the audio is still there.

So i reset the option to "No change".

By the way, the AVR is a Yamaha RX-V3900 if that matters.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 10:41:54 am »

Oh, one last thing to try would be changing the buffer size.
 
Tools > Options > Audio > Audio Device > Device Settings should list them. Sometimes increasing or decreasing the buffer size can help.
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 10:43:52 am »

A couple things that weren't mentioned...

Drivers:

If you're using the onboard SPDIF output of your motherboard, this is almost certainly a feature of the onboard RealTek audio device.  These drivers are sometimes troublesome, and the ones provided by the motherboard OEM are often not the most current ones (or well supported).

You didn't say which motherboard you have, but assuming it is using a RealTek onboard audio device, you can get the latest drivers directly from RealTek here:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/

You'll almost certainly want the latest HD Audio Codec package, though this depends on your specific motherboard.  I'd say that this is your best bet.  Assuming it isn't just a flaw in your Yamaha (and would happen with any SPDIF input), then this is your best bet for a fix.

Audio Settings:

Update the drivers first, and only if that doesn't work, does it make sense to tweak the audio settings further.  If possible, it is best to leave it set to WASAPI and mostly the defaults (except, perhaps, the maximize volume setting if you're using MC's Internal Volume control).  However...You mentioned a bunch of the common things that can be tweaked to have an impact on this issue.  However, I'm not 100% sure you did all the possible combinations.

1. Make sure you've tried combining disabling Event Style and enabling the Play Silence option.  You said you tried both of these, but it wasn't clear if you tried both simultaneously.

2. This is way less likely to help, but you might want to try tweaking the Buffering setting, both up and down, and see if it changes the behavior at all.

I will say, however, that I had an audible click on my old motherboard's RealTek output (analog, not digital, in this case), and it was solved by a driver update.  That, too, was a Gigabyte board (though this isn't probably directly relevant).
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Re: Clicking noise before track begins to play
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2014, 10:51:17 am »

Thank you very much, glynor!

I will try updating the driver. You are right, i am using the latest driver from GigaByte for my Motherboard, not RealTec's.

I will report my success here, hopefully.
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