Topic: Bug Hunting and User Interface (Read 10002 times)

JimH · « **on:** August 25, 2003, 01:44:33 pm »

We're trying to close the work on 9.1. We have a serious deadline to meet. So we ask your patience in helping us get there.

Please report only BIG BUGS in the thread that announces each build. Minor problems will still get some attention, but we need to get all the big ones.

Please do not use the build thread for discussions. It makes it hard to read and that increases the chances we'll miss a big bug.

The User Interface is pretty much finished. It may get minor tweaks before release, but that's about it. So save your ammo for the next release.

That said, minor suggestions are still welcome. If you can say it in less than 25 words, there may be a chance.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:53:38 pm »

17 + 1/2 words:

Quicker, more direct access to file properties without the necessity to use the action window's browser toy.

jleerigby · « **Reply #2 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:58:36 pm »

Let's not have all the nice colorful toolbar buttons greyed out until you happen to hover over them. I want MC to look ~~good~~ better.

dragyn · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:00:50 pm »

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17 + 1/2 words:

Quicker, more direct access to file properties without the necessity to use the action window's browser toy.

direct access for file properties without using action window's browser.

there. reduced to 10 words. thank me later.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:01:05 pm »

24 words:

A "ghost" image next to the right of the Playerbar Display. A nice place for skinners to show the MC logo (or something else...).

knickelfarz · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:02:17 pm »

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direct access for file properties without using action window's browser.
there. reduced to 10 words. gotta keep em short.

Thanks

Xstatic · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:11:11 pm »

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direct access for file properties without using action window's browser.

My words exactly.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:11:36 pm »

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Let's not have all the nice colorful toolbar buttons greyed out until you happen to hover over them. I want MC to look good.

Some people may see that different... Hover effects for buttons are standard in most apps today. But what you want to have was possible in the times when the toolbar buttons were part of MC's skin...

Or in 12 Words:

Put back the "Toolbar_Inactive" image into the skin folder. Kill blend color.

Polonio · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:46:03 pm »

Change the default 'no cover art' image for something else.

The actual image seems the play buttons (play, next, previous, stop, ...), so some people can get confused when seeing playing now.

My father tried to skip songs, clicking over the image.

hello (40 words) take out every other letter

KingSparta · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2003, 03:26:46 pm »

Now that the search area has been placed

Can you maybe stretch it out a bit so I can see more than 10 char at a time?

I know it expands but why?

Just use the real-estate

it makes me feel like im in the shower with my wife (cramped)

'Please Please Please' Charted At 95 In 1964

Listening to: 'Please Please Please' from '20 All Time Greatest Hits' by 'James Brown' on Media Center 9.1

KingSparta · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2003, 03:32:37 pm »

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Change the default 'no cover art' image for something else.

I think you can do this if you replace the MC default image.

I would like to see my cat as the default

one of the all time great rock bands (IMHO)

'Gimme Your Money Please' Charted At 70 In 1976

Listening to: 'Gimme Your Money Please' from 'The Anthology (Disk 1)' by 'Bachman Turner Overdrive' on Media Center 9.1

clout · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2003, 03:47:46 pm »

Allow DSP & Crossfade on audio of video clips(mpg's)

This would make MC almost perfect for my use.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2003, 04:04:42 pm »

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Now that the search area has been placed

Can you maybe stretch it out a bit so I can see more than 10 char at a time?

I know it expands but why?

Just use the real-estate

Too much words...

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it makes me feel like im in the shower with my wife (cramped)

The shower may not be the right place for your first kamasutra try out...

Listening to: 'I'm Cramped' from 'Songs the Lord Taught Us' by 'The Cramps' on Media Center 9.1

KingSparta · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2003, 04:08:06 pm »

each line was a new subject

I have limited gray matter

Polonio · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2003, 04:25:21 pm »

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I think you can do this if you replace the MC default image.

Yes, I can change the default 'cover art' by switching some image. However, a newbie is not supposed to do that.

Imagine you are a new user, and you'll realize the confussion is quite possible. Much possible if you are a MusicMatch user (MM play buttons are similar to MC icon...)

Polonio · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2003, 04:42:26 pm »

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That said, minor suggestions are still welcome. If you can say it in less than 25 words, there may be a chance.

2 suggestions (so 50 words...):

1.- Include a button in AW to "show as it window"

2.- Simplify "tools" menu (default right click) by suppresing options to "Back", "Hide Action Window" and "Show as window". We have buttons to do that. And we could access to real tools easier.

Charlemagne 8 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2003, 04:57:46 pm »

Action Widow: Width = Full screen; Height = user variable
C8
(Get it? See 8 --- 8 words? --- Oh, Heck, I blew it anyhow)

Doof · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2003, 05:37:43 pm »

1. Give us back a toolbar and menu option to go straight to Detailed Info.

2. Make the AW display the CD Burner and Handheld lists the same way it does with Playing Now and Playlists.

Then it'll be perfect.

jleerigby · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2003, 10:12:41 pm »

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Some people may see that different... Hover effects for buttons are standard in most apps today. But what you want to have was possible in the times when the toolbar buttons were part of MC's skin...

Or in 12 Words:

Put back the "Toolbar_Inactive" image into the skin folder. Kill blend color.

Thanks Knicklefarz. That's what I meant!

Hover effects are standard but have at look at MS Word. That has hover effects without having the buttons appearing grey and bland all the time.

scott_r · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2003, 10:37:41 pm »

Either bring back the expandable/collapsable categories in the properties window or let us select multiple categories to view, instead of all or just one.

Scott.

ps. Please?

fex · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2003, 10:41:51 pm »

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17 + 1/2 words:

Quicker, more direct access to file properties without the necessity to use the action window's browser toy.

One word: "Yes"

nila · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2003, 12:15:08 am »

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17 + 1/2 words:

Quicker, more direct access to file properties without the necessity to use the action window's browser toy.

Amen, Amen, Amen!! (three words)

Right click navigation menu for AW to make back more useful (eleven words)

Coffee maker (two words)

Donut maker MMMMMM!!!! (two words and one drool!)

AW - Playlists text is unreadable - can you make as list (ten words)

Marty3d · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2003, 02:32:05 am »

Same as in 9.0 beta:
Remove or make real use of fields like "date imported", "date created" etc in View Schemes. It's just annoying having them there when they bug out (ever tried to group "date imported" in View Schemes??)

Sorry, for sounding like a bitter old man, but...
/Martin

Jynx · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2003, 02:57:15 am »

Two requests for Action Window:

1) Show all the Ipod options that are currently only available by right-clicking on the IPOD handheld icon
2) Show the DSP equalizer, so I don't have to go to the pop up window each time I wanna change ir

Cheers
J

nila · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2003, 03:34:02 am »

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Same as in 9.0 beta:
Remove or make real use of fields like "date imported", "date created" etc in View Schemes. It's just annoying having them there when they bug out (ever tried to group "date imported" in View Schemes??)

Sorry, for sounding like a bitter old man, but...
/Martin

BIG AMEN (two words) - dates still haven't been worked into MC properly.

GROUPING of types like width etc also dont work properly yet (11 words)

jleerigby · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2003, 04:01:10 am »

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Look at InternetExplorer, WindowsExplorer, Outlook, new versions of MSOffice... Word 97 not seems to be the reference for button behavior any more (not even for MS)... but I'm getting OT here

I was referring to Word 2002 but take your point about Explorer etc. Since we are talking about a media app here take a look at WMP9. Icons all bright and cheerful - just like they should be.

V-Man · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2003, 04:57:48 am »

I vote to keep the monochrome icons with colourful mouseovers. So there. I like 'em, they look contemporary and not garish.

gkerber · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:12:56 am »

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17 + 1/2 words:

Quicker, more direct access to file properties without the necessity to use the action window's browser toy.

Dittol

Doof · « **Reply #28 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:14:10 am »

Plus they blend into the PixOS skin better.

But it could be made skin-dependent, in which case everybody could have what they want.

phelt · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:46:53 am »

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Let's not have all the nice colorful toolbar buttons greyed out until you happen to hover over them. I want MC to look better.

I sincerely hope this does not come to pass, or it is skin-optional. IMO, apps that have an array of omnipresent 'colorful' icons are usually not to be taken seriously, and nearly always look like clown vomit.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #30 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:12:52 am »

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IMO, apps that have an array of omnipresent 'colorful' icons are usually not to be taken seriously, and nearly always look like clown vomit.

MEGA LOL - Harsh words but true... somehow you were reading my thoughts

DocLotus · « **Reply #31 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:42:12 am »

I know this has been discussed before but it still needs to be changed...

Action window should follow the Playing Now song without having to constantly keep clicking on the currently playing song to update it.

This is a real pian for me as the Album image does not follow the songs as they play.

This MUST be fixed before the Action window becomes useful to me.

DocLotus · « **Reply #32 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:42:56 am »

* NEW Aug-26-03... Gamma control for TV does not work. This works on the ATI A-I-W TV tuner & should work on MC 9 also.

knickelfarz · « **Reply #33 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:18:52 am »

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How about a clown vomit skin? Would that help?

WMP already offers a lot of them... couldn't be done better... Look at this beauty

gkerber · « **Reply #34 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:51:35 am »

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I know this has been discussed before but it still needs to be changed...

Action window should follow the Playing Now song without having to constantly keep clicking on the currently playing song to update it.

This is a real pian for me as the Album image does not follow the songs as they play.

This MUST be fixed before the Action window becomes useful to me.

Since the ActionWindow does not show info and images for the current playing track, it has little use to me also.

I will keep it always on Properties, not sure if I will keep it on docked or undocked.

I'd really like Images to be EITHER current playing track OR current selected track, then I'd use other things in the ActionWindow.

LisaRCT · « **Reply #35 on:** August 26, 2003, 09:09:31 am »

Streaming media should go silent when buffering, NOT sound like a machine gun in your head playing the last bits repeatedly.

mkutsen · « **Reply #36 on:** August 26, 2003, 01:29:22 pm »

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Streaming media should go silent when buffering, NOT sound like a machine gun in your head playing the last bits repeatedly.

I get this problem too BUT ONLY in ASIO.

phelt · « **Reply #37 on:** August 26, 2003, 03:18:45 pm »

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WMP already offers a lot of them... couldn't be done better... Look at this beauty

o...m...g...
Someone spent some time making that...
Could be better though - bits of confetti and skittles would take it to the (big)top.

Doof · « **Reply #38 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:21:02 pm »

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WMP already offers a lot of them... couldn't be done better... Look at this beauty

I already ported that one over to MC. Actually, I ported it to MJ8, but it still works.

Working on a new one now...

Pink Waters · « **Reply #39 on:** August 27, 2003, 05:55:15 am »

need frames button hover effect workin, panes still do reset when moving to another window, standalone volume chance

...

slikvik · « **Reply #40 on:** August 29, 2003, 02:19:11 am »

I've just noticed that you've added a new shortcut for changing between shuffle modes.

IMHO I think shortcuts for the different play types are just/more important, especially for remote users. So here's my 25 words:

Please, please, please....etc etc,

add key shortcuts for (play replace) (play only) and (add to play)

Thanks

jleerigby · « **Reply #41 on:** August 31, 2003, 12:49:59 pm »

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I've just noticed that you've added a new shortcut forchanging between shuffle modes.

Where? Do you just mean the item in the right click menu or is there a button somewhere?

Any way in 25 words or less.....

Remote control codes to apply ratings. (6 words)

Skillsadam · « **Reply #42 on:** August 31, 2003, 01:02:31 pm »

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Remote control codes to apply ratings. (6 words)

They already exist in 9, are they gone in 9.1? Use ctrl+1 ctrl+2 etc......

(I can use as many as I like cause it not's a suggestion... nyah nyah

)

skills

Valissystem · « **Reply #43 on:** August 31, 2003, 04:30:09 pm »

Suggestion.

Updating the Database should allow searching disks for missing tracks. Allows moving of files external to MC, but still keeping DB attributes etc.

[There 25 words]

jleerigby · « **Reply #44 on:** August 31, 2003, 10:33:23 pm »

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They already exist in 9, are they gone in 9.1? Use ctrl+1 ctrl+2 etc......

(I can use as many as I like cause it not's a suggestion... nyah nyah )

skills

Maybe you are referring to shortcuts? I'm referring to IR Remote Commands.

park · « **Reply #45 on:** September 01, 2003, 05:28:13 am »

The buttons in the action window are starting to look better but i think that making them act like web page links looks tacky. There's no need for them to go underlined when you put the cursor over them. The window should feel like a console of buttons.

I think.

Bri

Jynx · « **Reply #46 on:** September 02, 2003, 01:02:03 pm »

Any chance of having an option to turn off the Location bar (the one with the search in), I actually find that between the Action Window and the various toolbar icons that I don't really use it and it's taking up valuable real estate on my 1024x768 screen?

knickelfarz · « **Reply #47 on:** September 03, 2003, 08:17:22 am »

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24 words: A "ghost" image next to the right of the Playerbar Display. A nice place for skinners to show the MC logo (or something else...).

"Hey dude, what's the name of this impressing program?"

No chance for an optional (by skinning) MC logo on the right of the player display?

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Author Topic: Bug Hunting and User Interface (Read 10002 times)

jleerigby

dragyn

jleerigby

fex

nila

nila

jleerigby

V-Man

gkerber

phelt

gkerber

LisaRCT

phelt

jleerigby

jleerigby