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michael123

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Short gap few seconds before the end of each track [Solved]
« on: January 08, 2016, 02:05:06 am »

Hello

I can't remember if I had it before, anyway it is quite annoying

Jut before the end of the song, there is a very short, but audible gap

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michael123

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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2016, 02:31:10 am »

Looks like it happens on DSD tracks that are converted to 176/24 on the fly
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2016, 02:35:12 am »

Nope, it just happened also with 192/24 track.
If the track is going silent to the end, it feels less annoying
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2016, 02:46:29 am »

Hi

Not knowing your setup or if you are listening to sequential albums or if you are using playlists here. You might want to check or change your settings under Audio=>Track Change. Is the "do not play silence ..." checked (I keep this on for all music except classical). The Gapless setting here is only for sequential tracks, there is another setting "switch tracks which is applied for non sequential  track numbers.  Just a reminder this is by "zone" so if you have multiple zone setups you'd have to look at each one.

Also just a reminder, if using DLNA devices as renderers, not all will support gapless playback.

Otherwise not enough info for me ... maybe it has something to do with the buffering or latency you have set for your device(s)? Using WASPI, ASIO, WDM driver, playing from memory? JR to external DAC or soundcard? playback from a client machine ? lots of DSPs?
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2016, 02:49:00 am »

oops I see I replied at the same time ;)

So is there no problem with PCM files at 44.1k?  If just the DSD ones I'd try to set it without the conversion "on the fly"
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michael123

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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2016, 02:53:42 am »

Hi

Unfortunately it does happen also on other albums

'Do not play silence..' is checked, I think it is the default setting

Why does it happen in the end of each track? around 5-6 seconds from the end there is something like a small pause
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2016, 03:04:49 am »

Hi

Unfortunately it does happen also on other albums

'Do not play silence..' is checked, I think it is the default setting

Why does it happen in the end of each track? around 5-6 seconds from the end there is something like a small pause

not sure Michael, tere are a lot of different variables and as I don't know how you are configured not sure where I'd check first. Not sure if you are networked or not (client renderers?, slow NAS etc)

As it happens on all formats and only at the end, I'd start by temporarily removing any DSPs, not using memory playback (although the latter shouldn't matter). It could even be related to your LAN (like a client is autosyncing to the media server PC which happens often when the playback stat is written back to the media server). It could even be your AV is not set to exclude the files -- this can really be an issue on a slow network I just found out recently).

Are you using WASAPI to an external DAC? DLNA renderers?

Sorry I'm just guessing; not much to go on :)
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2016, 03:39:25 am »

I am using WASAPI to the directly connected DAC via USB

Files are on the gigabit network on NAS

Memory playback is on

DSP -- Yes!

I use FabFilter Pro-Q (VST3) to reduce few bass peaks, disabling it resolved the issue.
It is not something new, I use the filter for few years


But I still need it.. :(
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2016, 04:26:29 am »

ah cool. At least you found what the cause is. Now you need to find someone here that can give you a work around for that pluggin. I'd try to see if you couldn't emulate that though in DSP studio .. a parametric eq or maybe convolution. Ther would be less potential conflicts that way. Might be a change to Win10, an outdated pluggin or a JRiver change .. have no idea.

sorry that goes beyond me though

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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2016, 04:42:20 am »

Indeed, I upgraded to Windows 10 recently, JRiver is being upgraded all the time..

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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track (FabFilter)
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 05:04:58 am »

I played with the filter settings (of FabFilter), and it seems that using 'Natural Phase' rather than 'Linear Phase: Max' I used before does not expose this gap issue

I am continue testing.


Thanks for your help, Arindelle  8)
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Re: Short gap few seconds before the end of each track [Solved]
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2016, 05:17:35 am »

no problem Michael  :)
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