Topic: Play music & show pictures in slideshow WITHOUT cube (Read 8810 times)

nbtnt1 · « **on:** January 24, 2016, 07:04:41 am »

Folks,
Have just installed version MC 21 and all settings disappeared so I had to set it up again (to be similar to what i had for version 20)
Now i am not able to figure out how to play music in Theatre View and display images/pictures from my photo-folder WITHOUT this 3D cube feature.
To view pictures upside down is a really annoying feature. Never understood why the dev guys implemented it in the first place (and I have been with JRiver many years now).

I have seen solutions (and tried them) in this forum to use 'Slideshow" instead of "3D Cube" (in Theatre View --> Diplay View) + to create a smartlist with a special name ("3D Visualization Images").
see: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?action=printpage;topic=73949.0
However the result is the same "bldy" cube coming up.

Another suggestion is to create 2 smartlists in one playlist (including both pictures and music). In this case the slideshow functionality works fine.

However this means i need to set up (and use) a set of playlists to get rid of the swirling cube.

Is there another way ??

Any advice is much appreciated.

JimH · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2016, 07:34:05 am »

Please take a look at the wiki topic on Visualizations.

nbtnt1 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2016, 11:26:54 am »

Thanks JimH for swift answer.
Wiki refers to a Visualisation Studio to amend the setup (https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Visualization_Studio)
However this can not be found in the menus in Standard View or in the Playing Now pane.

Do i need to have the Master license to access this or a special plugin or something else ?

/t

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2016, 11:37:06 am »

I think you're looking at a visualization that you don't want.

Try a right click on the visualization and changing it to something else.

Fangio · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2016, 02:23:04 pm »

I see this behaviour too. Right click: '3D Visualizations' > 'Slideshow' still results in some inverted images.

marko · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2016, 08:14:41 pm »

If it worked, the slideshow cube is actually not bad at all, but currently, it does not work. I've reported this many times.

The 3D slideshow not only shows some images upside down, it also very quickly gets itself out of sync and begins to come to rest showing the edge of the cube foremost, and two barely visible images on two planes.

This is a neat way to view images, but wasted while it's not working.

If you guys do go in to fix this, is there any possibility you can look at how it handles portrait images too? My "3D visualisation" smartlist only returns landscape images because at the moment, it shows portraits on their sides.

-marko.

nbtnt1 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2016, 02:10:28 pm »

I give up !
Have been playing around in the system for days, but the only way to run a normal slideshow of pictures from my server is to
create smartlist #1 including images
create smartlist #2 including music
send both to a new playlist
start the playlist in theatre view

To replace the cube with slideshow showing pictures in a normal way (sliding in from the side, hold for 5 sec's, show next picture) is not possible.
?

marko · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:34:28 pm »

Outside of the 'cube', you have two other options...

1. combined list of music and images.
You know you can skip the "smartlist #1, Smartlist #2" steps, right?
Just create a single smartlist that pulls in the music and images that you want, and play that. We can help with the rules if you need.

When you play such a smartlist, music plays along with the image slideshow. The control functions (Next, Previous, Pause etc.) control the music, not the pictures.

2. Begin music playback first.
If you start playing music, then browse for images, and play those too, music continues playing while the slideshow plays. Here, the control functions (Next, Previous, Pause etc.) control the pictures, not the music.

The third option is the slideshow cube, which, when working, is a good alternative, but in it's current state, is unusable.

-marko

Matt · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:34:45 pm »

Quote from: marko on January 24, 2016, 08:14:41 pm

If it worked, the slideshow cube is actually not bad at all, but currently, it does not work. I've reported this many times.

The 3D slideshow not only shows some images upside down, it also very quickly gets itself out of sync and begins to come to rest showing the edge of the cube foremost, and two barely visible images on two planes.

Well I don't think I've seen you report this!

In any event, I can reproduce images playing upside down on my home machine.

Hopefully I'll be able to make it happen at work (and even better, fix it!).

Wish me luck

imugli · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:42:22 pm »

While we're at it, it would also be nice if the cube would scale to the size of the images, as opposed to stretching them to the size of the cube :-D

marko · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:55:20 pm »

Quote from: Matt on January 27, 2016, 04:34:45 pm

Well I don't think I've seen you report this!

In any event, I can reproduce images playing upside down on my home machine.

Hopefully I'll be able to make it happen at work (and even better, fix it!).

Wish me luck

Try searching the beta board for posts by me that contain cube
Repeatedly throughout v19, 19.0.24 - 19.0.134, and again in 21.0.18.
At one point, I'm sure I posted a screenshot too.

Will be great if you can fix it though.

-marko

Matt · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2016, 06:33:01 am »

Quote from: marko on January 27, 2016, 04:55:20 pm

Will be great if you can fix it though.

I think it should be handled next build:
Fixed: The 3d visualization could have images upside down if the rotation flag was set.

We'll at least hope!

marko · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:51:44 am »

It seems better than it was, but it's still playing up... Some are still upside down, and it's still regularly coming to rest inbetween planes...

-marko

Matt · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2016, 04:04:55 pm »

I distilled my test library down to one image that sometimes showed flipped.

When I play with that one image in "Visualization Images" it shows over and over on the slideshow.

And the crazy thing is that sometimes it's flipped and sometimes it's not.

imugli · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2016, 04:36:50 pm »

Isn't that because the cube flips both horizontally and vertically?

Take a cube, spin it horizontally twice, so the front face is now the back face.

Now flip it vertically twice. Isn't the image from the back face now upside down?

EDIT: It seems to happen when an image is loaded on the back face of the cube (the correct way up), then the cube flips vertically through 2 faces and lands on that image.

JimH · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2016, 10:49:09 pm »

I agree with imugli. It's just the nature of how a cube would look.

imugli · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:04:59 pm »

Quote from: JimH on January 28, 2016, 10:49:09 pm

I agree with imugli. It's just the nature of how a cube would look.

Which still doesn't solve the problem of how to display a simple slideshow of images rather than a 3D cube, using either the "Slideshow" or "3D Cube" option.

marko · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:30:55 pm »

Quote from: JimH on January 28, 2016, 10:49:09 pm

I agree with imugli. It's just the nature of how a cube would look.

But, it never used to do that. It would spin around all day and always rest the right way up, and face-on to the viewer. It was good. It is not so good now.

Quote from: imugli on January 28, 2016, 11:04:59 pm

Which still doesn't solve the problem of how to display a simple slideshow of images rather than a 3D cube, using either the "Slideshow" or "3D Cube" option.

A simple slideshow is easy, just pick the pictures and play them. A slideshow with music is not so simple, but even so, only requires a single smartlist to achieve.
I have one here that plays landscapes to an instrumental playlist. I use it all the time, and it's just one press on "Play All" in theater view to launch it.

-marko

imugli · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:42:18 pm »

Quote from: marko on January 28, 2016, 11:30:55 pm

But, it never used to do that. It would spin around all day and always rest the right way up, and face-on to the viewer. It was good. It is not so good now.
-marko

I vaguely remember it always used to twist to the correct orientation.

marko · « **Reply #19 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:19:32 am »

Yup, it got broke at the tail end of v18 / beginning of v19 and has been that way ever since

Matt · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2016, 06:47:37 am »

Well I'll try yet again next build:
Fixed: 3D visualizations could still show images upside down sometimes.

It's funny because there are coordinates for each face value (there are six of them). I just started guessing what needed to change, and luckily I hit it pretty quickly. I thought I might be sitting and guessing for the rest of the day!

marko · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:51:14 am »

This is most excellent

Playing for little over ½ hour, and nothing has been upsidedown. It does occasionally not get the brakes on hard enough and comes to rest between two images, but at least now it seems to sort itself out within the next image or so, while before, it wouldn't do that and just stayed out of whack.

Thanks Matt.

imugli · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2016, 02:22:41 pm »

Looks all good from here as well.

Thanks Matt!

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