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RD James

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64-bit version of JRiver
« on: August 03, 2016, 08:50:33 am »

The memory reading stuff has a hard cap at 1.5 GB (since that's all we'd be able to allocate anyway).
Is a 64-bit version of JRiver ever going to happen?
1.5GB is plenty if you're playing CD-quality audio (typically 600MB an album) but not much if you're playing high-res.
 
It's a bigger problem for video though. The server is constantly crashing for me now that I'm starting to watch more 4K video in ROHQ.
If I'm playing a 4K video and something else is going on at the same time - if a family member starts playing media in another zone or the analyzer was running - the player crashes hard and just disappears.
Video decoding performance is also being held back in 32-bit compared to 64-bit.
 
If I send video to an external 64-bit player using madVR it's completely stable, but I want to keep everything in JRiver.
I put 32GB of RAM in my new media server build and it would be nice if this could be utilized.
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tyler69

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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 09:01:07 am »

That would be very nice indeed. Plus in my opinion the implementation of the new "playback from memory" functionality is somehow crippled.
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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 08:49:34 pm »

That would be very nice indeed. Plus in my opinion the implementation of the new "playback from memory" functionality is somehow crippled.
How is it crippled?
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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 09:40:23 pm »

Fixed, limited buffer size.  Many of my tracks will not fit.
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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 03:31:32 am »

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Is a 64-bit version of JRiver ever going to happen?
+1. This will be very useful for CPU decoding of HEVC UHD 10 bit content. I have a Core i7 4790K and with 64 bit playback, my system fluidly plays 10 bit UHD content up to 30 fps using CPU decoding. I would very much want to use JRiver's 64 bit version here.

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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 04:07:04 am »

+1 However I don't thing it will happen any time soon as I am sure they use the same code base for the Linux and MAC versions. I also seem to recall that their was something to do with the LAV filters that they use which is not a JRiver product.

The new Intel Skylake CPU has HEVC decoding and encoding built in and it would be nice if JRiver supported this.

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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 10:25:44 am »

The LAV filters that are developed by Hendrik, hired by JRiver?!

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Re: 64-bit version of JRiver
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 11:16:11 am »

+1 However I don't thing it will happen any time soon as I am sure they use the same code base for the Linux and MAC versions.

This has really nothing to do with the lack of a 64-bit build of MC on Windows.

I'm sure a 64-bit Windows build could be compiled right now, but very likely parts of the codebase and some features may not work like they would in the 32-bit build or would need to be updated to work with a 64-bit build (and likely there's some legacy code to deal with first). It's something that shouldn't be rushed into.

And I'm sure we'll eventually see 64-bit Windows MC binaries, since it actually makes more sense now than it did several years ago.

Personally, I rather see all of MC's executables and DLL files signed with SHA-1 (for XP and whatnot) and SHA-256 so antivirus issues will become a thing of the past.
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