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JimH

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Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« on: July 19, 2016, 08:04:50 am »
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Re: Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 08:16:01 am »
That's a steep price.

The 8 TB is $244:
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Archive-6GBps-Internal-ST8000AS0002/dp/B00XS423SC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468934104&sr=8-1&keywords=8+tb+hard+drive

I have one of those and it's been great.  Some silly guy decided to store all his music lossless, so it takes kind of a lot of space!
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Re: Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 10:54:12 am »
Archive HDD is bad for a Desktop usage.

Did you read on the Cycle Counts? http://www.seagate.com/www-content/product-content/hdd-fam/seagate-archive-hdd/en-us/docs/archive-hdd-ds1834-5c-1508us.pdf

If you want to store it once and then let it rust, its good. Otherwise NOT. It's designed for very limited amounts of writes. Cant recommend.

You can even see at the companys Homepage that this Hard drive is just to save your files once and then store it.

Please buy a Western Digital / Seagate for NAS use instead. You dont want to throw away your money.
For my concerns, i often synchronize my HDD and dont want an instant dead by using all the cycling counts.
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Re: Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2016, 11:46:21 am »
Don't see your point.

Archive 8TB HDD Load/unload cycles 300,000
Desktop 8TB HDD Load/unload cycles 300,000

Arc Nonrecoverable errors 1 per 10E14
Dsk Nonrecoverable errors 1 per 10E14

Arc workload rate limit 180 TB/year
Dsk workload rate limit 55 TB/year

Arc power on hours 8760
Dsk power on hours 2400

Arc MTBF 800K hours
Dsk MTBF not given

Looks like a win for the Archive drive to me!

Seagate have another amusing pricing strategy; at the moment the bare 8TB drive is 15% more expensive than a drive in an enclosure with a USB3 interface and a power supply.
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Re: Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 01:37:39 pm »
 :o Shocked.
Whatever it is, they dont seem to support the Archieve HDD for general home usage, while they support the Desktop one.
If the Desktop one has more Load Cycle Counts, then thats confusing.
Personally i prefer WD RED because its certified for NAS / 24/7 usage.

That basically means longer lifetime for my HDD. They are just no longtime measurements for the Archieve HDD.
But there has to be a reason this article is described as for usage of rare used Data or something similiar.
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Re: Seagate's new 10TB Drive -- $535
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2016, 10:48:56 am »
I just ordered 4 at $488.88 each

Seagate 10TB BarraCuda Pro 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 256MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST10000DM0004)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IA9H22Q/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am going to put them into A four drive raid enclosure.

I am really not sure what setting would be best right now but raid 10 with 4 drives sounds best to me.
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