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kuriakosekudasseril

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MP3 playback format issue
« on: January 30, 2017, 09:18:32 pm »

I have a Creative Sound Blaster audio drive on my mac and it's perfectly working with all softwares

while I'm playing mp3 on MC it shows some format error (screenshot of that error msg attached below)

I tried all possible combinations in DSP

but stil not working

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 01:14:25 pm »

I have a Creative Sound Blaster audio drive on my mac and it's perfectly working with all softwares

while I'm playing mp3 on MC it shows some format error (screenshot of that error msg attached below)

I tried all possible combinations in DSP

but stil not working

please help
It sounds like the device is in use.
What device are you playing to?
What version of OSX?
Do files other than mp3 work?
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 09:41:08 pm »

It sounds like the device is in use.
What device are you playing to?
What version of OSX?
Do files other than mp3 work?

i am using a Creative SoundBlaster USB audio driver and creative 5.1 speaker system
MC not any kind of audio files
it shows playing when we select Null output option in MC audio device menu
my OS details attached below

please help me
its so urgent
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 06:18:12 am »

It sounds like one of two things is going on:

A.  You don't have the sound blaster selected in MC's audio setup:  Tools > Options > Audio > Audio Device > (select your sound blaster here)

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B.  Your sound blaster somehow does not support 44.1kHz audio.  This would be unusual unless it's some kind of wireless system.  If it doesn't support 44.1, I would convert 44.1 to 48kHz via the DSP studio.  This seems unlikely though, again, unless it's bluetooth or something.

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 07:33:21 am »

It sounds like one of two things is going on:

A.  You don't have the sound blaster selected in MC's audio setup:  Tools > Options > Audio > Audio Device > (select your sound blaster here)

or

B.  Your sound blaster somehow does not support 44.1kHz audio.  This would be unusual unless it's some kind of wireless system.  If it doesn't support 44.1, I would convert 44.1 to 48kHz via the DSP studio.  This seems unlikely though, again, unless it's bluetooth or something.

Brian.

sound blaster selected in Audio devices option (screenshot attached below)
then according to you 'B' might be the problem
Sounblaster may not supporting 44.1

can u please give me instrustions step by step to sort out this?

i also attached screenshots of my Sound Preference window & audio midi setup window

thank you so much

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 07:37:49 am »

Audio MIDI Setup is set at 48 kHz as suspected. Can you set it to 44.1 kHz by chance? And it's set at 6 channels. If 44.1 kHz isn't supported you may have to open DSP Studio in MC, go to Output Format and change it to resample 44,100 Hz to 48,000 Hz.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 08:09:52 am »

Audio MIDI Setup is set at 48 kHz as suspected. Can you set it to 44.1 kHz by chance? And it's set at 6 channels. If 44.1 kHz isn't supported you may have to open DSP Studio in MC, go to Output Format and change it to resample 44,100 Hz to 48,000 Hz.

There is no option to set to 44.1 KHZ
only 48 & 96 KHZ

How can i change change it to resample 44,100 Hz to 48,000 Hz ?? . (check second screenshot)

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 08:31:19 am »

See Less than 44,100 Hz and 44,100 Hz under Input? Click on the Output for each (to the right) and set both to 48,000 Hz. That should do it.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 08:49:59 am »

See Less than 44,100 Hz and 44,100 Hz under Input? Click on the Output for each (to the right) and set both to 48,000 Hz. That should do it.

i did everthing

but problem still exists . (last screenshot)
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 09:10:04 am »

You might have to change the Channel count too. I've never used anything beyond 2.1 so I'm not sure what I'd set it at. Maybe 5.1, maybe try 2.1 and see if it at least plays back.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 09:43:40 am »

You might have to change the Channel count too. I've never used anything beyond 2.1 so I'm not sure what I'd set it at. Maybe 5.1, maybe try 2.1 and see if it at least plays back.


Tried all channel count options

no change :(

audirvana plays it without any problem
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 09:58:07 am »

is there any option to adjust these settings automatically by media center itself?

i think other softwares like Audirvana operating like that way
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 11:58:20 am »

This seems pretty complex.
I guess I'd start by setting the midi options to 48k 2 channels.
Then set DSP studio output format enabled and all channels to 48k (right-click, set all to 48k) and in the mixing set to "2 channels (stereo)".

If you get it playing then we can mess with the 96k and 6 channel stuff..

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 12:37:16 pm »

This seems pretty complex.
I guess I'd start by setting the midi options to 48k 2 channels.
Then set DSP studio output format enabled and all channels to 48k (right-click, set all to 48k) and in the mixing set to "2 channels (stereo)".

If you get it playing then we can mess with the 96k and 6 channel stuff..

ok lets do in that way
step by step

i wil do it and let you know

thank you so much for your valuable time and help
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 12:56:18 pm »

This seems pretty complex.
I guess I'd start by setting the midi options to 48k 2 channels.
Then set DSP studio output format enabled and all channels to 48k (right-click, set all to 48k) and in the mixing set to "2 channels (stereo)".

If you get it playing then we can mess with the 96k and 6 channel stuff..

doesn't work
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 03:23:51 pm »

doesn't work
In MC's audio settings do you have integer mode enabled?
It appears your device supports only that.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 08:59:40 pm »

In MC's audio settings do you have integer mode enabled?
It appears your device supports only that.
what values  i should enter?
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 09:08:21 pm »

finally it starts playing at least

screenshots showing present settings

plays through 2 speakers only

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2017, 11:21:08 am »

Good, that is what I expected. One issue at a time.
Now change the midi settings back to 6 channel and use the 6 channel mixing in DSP studio instead of 2 channel.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2017, 12:02:04 pm »

Good, that is what I expected. One issue at a time.
Now change the midi settings back to 6 channel and use the 6 channel mixing in DSP studio instead of 2 channel.

i couldnt change midi settings back to 6 channel
it wont change while MC running
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 12:04:33 pm »

Good, that is what I expected. One issue at a time.
Now change the midi settings back to 6 channel and use the 6 channel mixing in DSP studio instead of 2 channel.

if i set 5.1 channel in DSP studio, it wil automaticaly turn to 2 channel when next track starts playing

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2017, 01:38:53 pm »

Leave the "Channel Offset" at 0.
Since you appear to be using 96k in the midi settings, set all of the sample rates to 96k in DSP studio.
In Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 10:00:55 pm »

Leave the "Channel Offset" at 0.
Since you appear to be using 96k in the midi settings, set all of the sample rates to 96k in DSP studio.
In Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.

Leave the "Channel Offset" at 0.
Since you appear to be using 96k in the midi settings, set all of the sample rates to 96k in DSP studio.
In Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.

i set midi setting to 6 channel
but it wil automaticaly set to 2 channel while we playing in MC
and set back to 6 channel after finishing playing

MC only plays when we set channel to 2
otherwise it shows same old error msg

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2017, 09:39:47 pm »

Leave the "Channel Offset" at 0.
Since you appear to be using 96k in the midi settings, set all of the sample rates to 96k in DSP studio.
In Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.

audirvana and other mac players copies front channel out to sorround speakers
so gwt out through all speakers thou its not pure 5.1

better than playing though 2 speakers only
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 10:03:06 am »

audirvana and other mac players copies front channel out to sorround speakers
so gwt out through all speakers thou its not pure 5.1

better than playing though 2 speakers only
Did you do this?
 Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2017, 10:33:25 am »

Did you do this?
 Options->Audio->Advanced, "auto-configure output settings on playback failure" should be set to NO.

yes already did this
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2017, 05:17:58 pm »

It plays through 2 channels because that's what you have set in your number of speakers.  Set it to 5.1 and JRSS mixing should generate fake surround for you in the other 3.1 channels.

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2017, 08:02:13 pm »

It plays through 2 channels because that's what you have set in your number of speakers.  Set it to 5.1 and JRSS mixing should generate fake surround for you in the other 3.1 channels.

Brian.
if we set to 5.1 , shows an error msg and wont playing (screenshot attached)
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2017, 06:02:48 am »

I suspect that this device does not support 96kHz for 5.1 sources when using a Mac.  The owners manual and the product spec sheet are extremely vague about the resolutions it supports.  It only lists 96kHz 5.1 for Windows and makes a point of putting "Window" in parenthesis, which implies that it only works on that platform..

I would try 48 kHz with 5.1 channels.  If that doesn't work, I would try 44.1 kHz at 5.1 .  After that I'm mostly out of ideas.  Maybe mess with the settings in Audio MIDI first, and then in MC?

Good luck.

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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2017, 06:48:55 am »

I would try 44.1 kHz at 5.1

Apparently the device doesn't support 44.1 kHz output. Just 48 kHz and 96 kHz which seems rather strange.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2017, 07:14:34 am »

I suspect that this device does not support 96kHz for 5.1 sources when using a Mac.  The owners manual and the product spec sheet are extremely vague about the resolutions it supports.  It only lists 96kHz 5.1 for Windows and makes a point of putting "Window" in parenthesis, which implies that it only works on that platform..

I would try 48 kHz with 5.1 channels.  If that doesn't work, I would try 44.1 kHz at 5.1 .  After that I'm mostly out of ideas.  Maybe mess with the settings in Audio MIDI first, and then in MC?

Good luck.

Brian.

doesn't support 44.1 kHz output. Just 48 kHz and 96 kHz
thats the problm

thank you Brian
you spend lots of time for me
thank you very much

if you ever get any solution idea,msg me
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2017, 07:15:02 am »

Apparently the device doesn't support 44.1 kHz output. Just 48 kHz and 96 kHz which seems rather strange.

yes correct

any solution?
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2017, 07:47:30 am »

Honestly, I'd say the issue lies in the Creative device itself. I've actually never recommended any Creative devices either.

Only supporting 48 kHz and 96 kHz, yeah, that's definitely one reason why I'd never recommend the Creative Sound Blaster. The majority of digital music comes in 44.1 kHz (aka redbook) so it doesn't make any sense having to resample to 48 kHz or 96 kHz. It just doesn't make sense for it not to support 44.1 kHz.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2017, 08:13:18 am »

Honestly, I'd say the issue lies in the Creative device itself. I've actually never recommended any Creative devices either.

Only supporting 48 kHz and 96 kHz, yeah, that's definitely one reason why I'd never recommend the Creative Sound Blaster. The majority of digital music comes in 44.1 kHz (aka redbook) so it doesn't make any sense having to resample to 48 kHz or 96 kHz. It just doesn't make sense for it not to support 44.1 kHz.

then which device you recommend for getting 5.1 out from macbook?
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2017, 08:16:45 am »

Personally, I wouldn't go 5.1 (I see no need) but there's a thread from three years ago which might help: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=87573.0

Mac compatibility *may* be a challenge though. I'd suggest researching all possibilities.
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Re: MP3 playback format issue
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2017, 09:36:16 pm »

Personally, I wouldn't go 5.1 (I see no need) but there's a thread from three years ago which might help: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=87573.0

Mac compatibility *may* be a challenge though. I'd suggest researching all possibilities.

creative product was perfect for my windows pc
thats why i trusted them
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