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AlanDistro

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I am building a few new smartlists and I have a keyword for "Don't Shuffle". I apply it to guilty pleasure albums and just weird titles that I don't want showing up in shuffles.

But the new smartlist I'm building won't let me select the "Don't Shuffle" keyword in the Rules because none of the tracks currently in that list (based on the other Rules) include it. But some might in the future so I want to plan ahead. How do I add that particular keyword to a new Rule when it doesn't show up in my list of checkmark options? (it would be listed as "8 - Don't Shuffle" if it were there)
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DJLegba

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Create a "Guilty Pleasure" genre. Albums can have multiple genres, so this won't interfere with anything you are currently using. Then add a rule to your smartlist excluding the the "Guilty Pleasure" genre.
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AlanDistro

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Create a "Guilty Pleasure" genre. Albums can have multiple genres, so this won't interfere with anything you are currently using. Then add a rule to your smartlist excluding the the "Guilty Pleasure" genre.
Right, that'd make sense if I was starting from scratch, but I already have albums tagged with the keyword "8 - Don't Shuffle" (there just aren't any from the 70s rock era rated 4-5 stars), so I'd have to do a bit of retagging, also my genre view would then be messy. I see a "stock rule" button, so I'll  probably try creating a stock rule that includes it and then applying that to the lists that don't have any Don't Shuffle albums already in there. In theory that should work.
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RoderickGI

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If you have any audio files with the Keyword "8 - Don't Shuffle", and you put the Keyword rule immediately after the [Media Type] rule, does the "8 - Don't Shuffle" option now show?

Would that rule sequence break anything for you?

Also, it is not clear to me if you don't want anything from Albums marked "8 - Don't Shuffle" to be shuffled, or you just don't want the Tracks within the Album to be shuffled. If the latter, have you had a look at the File/Track Linking functionality? Mentioned here: https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Library_Tools#Track_Linking_Tools
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AlanDistro

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If you have any audio files with the Keyword "8 - Don't Shuffle", and you put the Keyword rule immediately after the [Media Type] rule, does the "8 - Don't Shuffle" option now show?

Would that rule sequence break anything for you?

That would've worked! But I ended up being smarter about it and just added the "8 - Don't Shuffle" rule to the master smartlist that *all* other smartlists pull data from (the "!!! All of Alan's Music without Duplicates" list). That pool simply weeds out any title marked with the Duplicate keyword (for different masterings of albums where I tag all but my preferred master as Duplicates). Adding the Don't Shuffle rule there then trickled down to all other smartlists since that's where they're all pulling tracks from anyway. I should have thought of that initially.
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blgentry

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If you or anyone else finds themselves in a similar situation in the future, where you are fighting with one MC field or a limitation of a field, remember this:  MC lets you define as many fields, of any type, as you would like. 

In this case, you could have defined a new field of type integer, with an edit type of checkbox called "dont shuffle".  Then, you could put a check in the box next to songs that should not be shuffled.  Finally, write your smartlist rule as something like "[dont shuffle] is 0".

Brian.
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