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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2017, 01:00:49 pm »

Hi Bob,

I have a problem getting my blue tooth headset to work. Version 22 and 23.0.65 running at the same machine (SUSE Leap42.3) but bt-headset is only working with version 22. The device setup between both versions is identical.
Version 22 switches over to headset playback after synchronization and back to speaker, after the headset is turned of, version 23 only uses the speaker. Restarting playback etc. does not solve the problem.

Same issue with 23.0.70. 22.0.108 is working fine

Note: 1909959 -> ver 22; 191020 -> ver 23.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2017, 07:48:33 pm »

?Bug?  When MC has only one zone, the zonename property is not showing up in the Playback/Info MCWS results.  Multi-zone MC servers are showing zonename.

Haven't tested windows and have gone back two versions (.61,56).  I found this by accident when attempting to use just the Playback/Info cmd to produce a zone list.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2017, 08:52:15 am »

Installed this version, again, my mkv rips not working.
Same issue with version 23.0.62.
The last version that worked with import was 23.0.61.
I have copied my files to different drive, still no luck. I have import rules to watch the folders.
I had no trouble importing your mkv's with the current build.
Just had a thought, check the permissions and libraries on JRWorker.
From a prompt (use your user, NOT ROOT):
Code: [Select]
ls -l /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRworkerand
Code: [Select]
ldd -d /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRWorker
also, does this machine have a working connection to the internet?
It needs to be able to download components to parse the video.

Do this also:
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ls -lR ~/.jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/Plugins/
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Food for thoughts:

On another note regarding DLNA:
The audio issue still there, now I noticed the videos will just  drag on.
Well to do more testing, I found some mkv ripped from DVD... Gloria Estephan Unwrapped, Janet Jackson Velvet Rope Tours,  Yanni.. Live at the Acropolis, all these concerts dvd that do not have 1080P resolution played fine with no issues. It is the 1080P/3D mkvs that have issues.

Thanks.
George
Twice as much bandwidth for the 3d. The audio buffering settings have no effect when playing to DLNA renderers (this is true for Windows as well). I was confused because I thought the playback issue was on the local Linux machine. I assume that works fine.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2017, 06:54:07 pm »

I had no trouble importing your mkv's with the current build.
Just had a thought, check the permissions and libraries on JRWorker.
From a prompt (use your user, NOT ROOT):
Code: [Select]
ls -l /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRWorkerand
Code: [Select]
ldd -d /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRWorker
also, does this machine have a working connection to the internet?
It needs to be able to download components to parse the video.

Do this also:
Code: [Select]
ls -lR ~/.jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/Plugins/Twice as much bandwidth for the 3d. The audio buffering settings have no effect when playing to DLNA renderers (this is true for Windows as well). I was confused because I thought the playback issue was on the local Linux machine. I assume that works fine.


The Playback issues are on the Linux server acting as a server and clients smart tvs trying to play from the server.
My setup has never used local playback on those  smart tvs.

How far did you go with the mkvs on smart tvs/DLNA?
I used another user to log in, and tried to ls the JRworker.
All codes resulted in No such file or directory.
Then I tried to log in as normal root, one commands, the first one responds no such file or directory, The second command responded with a bunch of words on the screen and the the thrid listed Lame, libv.... looks like the codecx.
For the first time on the Linux server,  I tried to watch a 3D movie over the network. Just testing how the Nvidia gpu will react to it. For 8 minutes, Avatar 5D played in its glory, but with same audio skimpping and jumping.
I expect the audio issue, but it was my curiosity regarding how 3D will play, since no one ever mentioned 3D compatibility for the Linux, but for the Windows platform, we see it from the Madvr settings.

I will suggest on vol 6 area, Alien- Covenant, Assassin's creed, 3.10 to Yuma, Wonder Woman to test.
In concerts- Bee Gees, Lionel Richie and  Celine Dion - A new Day.
I have enough bandwidth. I am connected to the internet.
If I can not get the  import issue resolved, I will just wipe out MC 23, settings and config files and start all over.

Thanks
George
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2017, 11:58:54 am »


The Playback issues are on the Linux server acting as a server and clients smart tvs trying to play from the server.
My setup has never used local playback on those  smart tvs.

How far did you go with the mkvs on smart tvs/DLNA?
I used another user to log in, and tried to ls the JRworker.
All codes resulted in No such file or directory.
Then I tried to log in as normal root, one commands, the first one responds no such fil or directory, The second command responded with a bunch of words on the screen and the the thrid listed Lame, libv.... looks like the codecx.
For the first time on the Linux server,  I tried to watch a 3D movie over the network. Just testing how the Nvidia gpu will react to it. For 8 minutes, Avatar 5D played in its glory, but with same audio skimpping and jumping.
I expect the audio issue, but it was my curiosity regarding how 3D will play, since no one ever mentioned 3D compatibility for the Linux, but for the Windows platform, we see it from the Madvr settings.

I will suggest on vol 6 area, Alien- Covenant, Assassin's creed, 3.10 to Yuma, Wonder Woman to test.
In concerts- Bee Gees, Lionel Richie and  Celine Dion - A new Day.
I have enough bandwidth. I am connected to the internet.
If I can not get the  import issue resolved, I will just wipe out MC 23, settings and config files and start all over.

Thanks
George
I will try those.

Can you do the ls -l and ldd commands above again?
I made a case error in the first. They are case sensitive.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2017, 01:15:56 am »


The Playback issues are on the Linux server acting as a server and clients smart tvs trying to play from the server.
My setup has never used local playback on those  smart tvs.

How far did you go with the mkvs on smart tvs/DLNA?
I used another user to log in, and tried to ls the JRworker.
All codes resulted in No such file or directory.
Then I tried to log in as normal root, one commands, the first one responds no such file or directory, The second command responded with a bunch of words on the screen and the the thrid listed Lame, libv.... looks like the codecx.
For the first time on the Linux server,  I tried to watch a 3D movie over the network. Just testing how the Nvidia gpu will react to it. For 8 minutes, Avatar 5D played in its glory, but with same audio skimpping and jumping.
I expect the audio issue, but it was my curiosity regarding how 3D will play, since no one ever mentioned 3D compatibility for the Linux, but for the Windows platform, we see it from the Madvr settings.

I will suggest on vol 6 area, Alien- Covenant, Assassin's creed, 3.10 to Yuma, Wonder Woman to test.
In concerts- Bee Gees, Lionel Richie and  Celine Dion - A new Day.
I have enough bandwidth. I am connected to the internet.
If I can not get the  import issue resolved, I will just wipe out MC 23, settings and config files and start all over.

Thanks
George

Response to 1st command:tester@elitelinux:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRWorker
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2909248 Sep 29 16:35 /usr/lib/jriver/Media Center 23/JRWorker

Response to second command:
x.so.1.59.0 (0x00007faea59f9000)
   libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007faea56be000)
   libuuid.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007faea54b9000)
   libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007faea52ae000)
   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007faea4f26000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007faea4c1d000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007faea4a06000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007faea463d000)
   /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000056141c475000)
   libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007faea441b000)
   libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007faea4209000)
   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007faea3fff000)
   libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007faea3dfb000)
   libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007faea3bf3000)
Response to third command:
 ls -lR ~/.jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/Plugins/
ls: cannot access '/home/tester/.jriver/Media Center 23/Plugins/': No such file or directory
If I log in with Root, I get  the codex like lame etc.

Thanks.
George
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Auto Complete when using TAG
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2017, 08:05:25 am »

When using TAG the autocomplete function (which presents suggestions when editing) causes all typing in the entry field to stop until you click back in the entry field or select one of the suggestions. This can be tedious if what you are trying to type is not on the suggestion dropdown list.  Using Ubuntu 17.04 and MC 23.0.65
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2017, 08:49:43 am »

Response to 1st command:tester@elitelinux:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/JRWorker
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2909248 Sep 29 16:35 /usr/lib/jriver/Media Center 23/JRWorker

Response to second command:
x.so.1.59.0 (0x00007faea59f9000)
   libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007faea56be000)
   libuuid.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007faea54b9000)
   libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007faea52ae000)
   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007faea4f26000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007faea4c1d000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007faea4a06000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007faea463d000)
   /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000056141c475000)
   libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007faea441b000)
   libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007faea4209000)
   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007faea3fff000)
   libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007faea3dfb000)
   libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007faea3bf3000)
Response to third command:
 ls -lR ~/.jriver/Media\ Center\ 23/Plugins/
ls: cannot access '/home/tester/.jriver/Media Center 23/Plugins/': No such file or directory
If I log in with Root, I get  the codex like lame etc.

Thanks.
George
Sounds like you might have an ownership/permissions issue.
This can happen if you run MC with sudo. MC should always run a user, not with root permissions.

You can try this to fix it:
As the MC user (in the case above your user is tester), with MC not running, do this...
chown -R tester ~/.jriver
This should run with no errors. If you get an error do:
sudo chown -R tester ~/.jriver

Report your results please.
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Re: Auto Complete when using TAG
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2017, 08:51:25 am »

When using TAG the autocomplete function (which presents suggestions when editing) causes all typing in the entry field to stop until you click back in the entry field or select one of the suggestions. This can be tedious if what you are trying to type is not on the suggestion dropdown list.  Using Ubuntu 17.04 and MC 23.0.65
Do you know if that is specific to the Linux build?
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Re: Auto Complete when using TAG
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2017, 03:57:10 pm »

Do you know if that is specific to the Linux build?
Yes it's specific to the Linux build. Windows does not lose focus on the entry field like Linux does when an autocomplete suggestion appears.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.65 for Debian Jessie: Import still not working
« Reply #60 on: October 06, 2017, 01:29:40 pm »

Sounds like you might have an ownership/permissions issue.
This can happen if you run MC with sudo. MC should always run a user, not with root permissions.

You can try this to fix it:
As the MC user (in the case above your user is tester), with MC not running, do this...
chown -R tester ~/.jriver
This should run with no errors. If you get an error do:
sudo chown -R tester ~/.jriver

Report your results please.

Greetings:
My bad for not loading MC as non Root. I have done MC loading as non Root before, but due to the fact that I have re-installed Ubuntu and MC several times, I forgot about setting up a non Root account.
Thanks for reminding me.
Your code worked with no errors, but still will not let me import my 10 mkv rips, even when I copied  or moved them to different drives.
So I just "Cleared out" the entire database, got my Windows backup zip of 07/17/2017, restored only the settings.
Then I re-ripped all new 10 BDs, just to be sure those got in.
The rips got imported, then I set up the folders to watch for. All 1500* rips are present in a fresh database.
I think the database was corrupt.
In any way The imports work very well now..
Thanks Thanks Thanks.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #61 on: October 06, 2017, 04:07:07 pm »

Lots of DLNA changes. Could use some feedback on these...
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #62 on: October 06, 2017, 04:08:23 pm »

Also, hopefully video playback didn't break (much).
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #63 on: October 06, 2017, 06:33:48 pm »

Lots of DLNA changes. Could use some feedback on these...

Thanks for looking at this audio issues.
I set up three different  settings Generic, Sony, and Samsung each different from the other using conversion or not to convert.
The screen is not as sluggish as it used to.
The audio is still dragging especially at the opening logo and this also affects the video sluggish a bit. The audio still breaks, pulsating/jumping on all three settings.

Now, here is a sort of new info.
In the past year, MC 32 bit Windows, I have a Sony HDR.camp mkv demo and Panasonic GHA Lumix demo. These demos play , sound not distorted, but the only commonality in terms of problem is the stop and go video, but the 4K pictures are gorgeous.
When 64 bit MC was introduced, I also tested these demos, same pause and go. No different between between 64 bit and 32 bit .

On the Ubuntu 64 bit, it is not as good in terms of audio being reproduced.
I just wanted to mention this. The mkvs now have Dolby Atmos, Dts X and all the modern 3D audio , maybe maybe this is where the issues are.
Also, the write up on MC 23.0.70 mentions the slider... <grin>.
I see no slider. It is still same interface as before.
In the past, attempts were made or suggestions made for me to insert different values in the Audio - buffering field.
I tried maybe 20 different combination of numbers, with no success. Too bad the windows version does not have numeric values, if it does, I would have used the values there to test.
I know something must been affecting the audio in video .
Also, What have you noticed in terms of playback on those sample mkvs?
Can you please throw in some values to see if it will make any difference?
Can Lav filter be integrated for testing purpose?
I will continue to play with settings over the week end.
Thanks.
George
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #64 on: October 06, 2017, 06:40:21 pm »

Also, hopefully video playback didn't break (much).

Video playback is slightly faster when it does not pulsate. Video quality, is better, I noticed. It looks like 3D with an attitude <grin>.
What part is LAV filter playing on this.
Lav as far as I read about will play 4k and handle audio very well.
Can it be integrated for testing?
The windows counterpart has Option- General- Video choice of video card in here, We do not have this under Linus.
All these little differences may contribute to Linux platform playing well or not under DLNA. <grin>
This is my humble opinion.

Thanks.

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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #65 on: October 06, 2017, 07:34:50 pm »

What part is LAV filter playing on this.

Likely none, because the LAV Filters are Windows-only. Same with madVR and other DirectShow filters too.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2017, 09:42:23 pm »

Still having the problem changing a TAG field with focus jumping to autocomplete and requiring a click into the field to continue entering text. This happens every time the autocomplete window pops up. Also new to 23.0.70 the field labels have moved to the right side of the pane leaving space on the left. See screenshot. None of these behaviors in the Windows version. I am using Ubuntu 17.0.4
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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2017, 05:22:49 am »

Likely none, because the LAV Filters are Windows-only. Same with madVR and other DirectShow filters too.

...and he's using DLNA so MC is mostly out of the loop.  No video or audio options he can set or change will make any difference, other than transcoding.

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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2017, 04:29:10 pm »

Likely none, because the LAV Filters are Windows-only. Same with madVR and other DirectShow filters too.

Greetings:

Maybe I did not elaborate on the Lav Filter that I wrote about.
What I meant was  Mr. H in Germany should try to inject some Lav codes or features in to MC to make it more flexible with DLNA use.
With UHD ripping coming soon, and customers would want to play uhd over the network, and these customers looking at MC, they are going to be disappointed.
The 64 bit Windows version played these movies smoothly. Last Night we watched Wonder Woman, and Pirates of Caribbean Dead men tell no tales (mkv) over DLNA, no issues at all.
And this A.M , wife listened to Gloria Estephan Live in Miami, Gloria Estephan Unwrapped, no issues.b ut these are DVD mkvs, not Blu rays <grin>
My point is, it is the Blu ray 1080P rips that have issues with audio skippy, jumping etc.

Thanks.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2017, 03:35:57 pm »

Hi Bob,

I have a problem getting my blue tooth headset to work. Version 22 and 23.0.65 running at the same machine (SUSE Leap42.3) but bt-headset is only working with version 22. The device setup between both versions is identical.
Version 22 switches over to headset playback after synchronization and back to speaker, after the headset is turned of, version 23 only uses the speaker. Restarting playback etc. does not solve the problem.

Same issue with 23.0.70. 22.0.108 is working fine

Note: 1909959 -> ver 22; 191020 -> ver 23.
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Greetings:

These are observations with 1080P Blu rays mkvs.

Over the weekend, I have had a chance to test  various mkvs with the 23.0.70 build. I spent average of 10 minutes loading these movies and watched the videos and listened to the audio.

50 first Dates, Above the law, Absolute power. These three movies exhibited minor audio jumping at the initial start up, but played for over ten minutes without any noticeable audio glitch or video slowing down.

300, 300 Rise of an Empire. These movies do have intensive graphics and action packed. At initial startup, movies had audio jumping, and video was a bit sluggish. I almost gave up at the three minutes mark, then I noticed the video at one point was very smooth, then later it started to craw- a sort of pausing and continue. At one point the audio was very clear, almost perfect.

Belle, Pirate of the Caribbean Dead Men Tell no Tales, Wonder Woman.. Audio was jumpy, video would freeze a bit and continues to smooth out.Overall audio was clear as a whistle for some areas, then get jumpy again. It looks like video playback need something to push it to the next frame.

3 Days to kill. 3:10 to Yuma, 12 Years a Slave, Assassin Creed, Alien Convenant Audio get jerky, jumpy video freezes almost at the point where the movies start. With Alien Convenant, you could see the video splitting, it looks like  the head of Michael Fassbender was being separated from his neck.

DVD mkvs.

Janet Jackson Live in Hawaii, Velvet Rope Tours, Gloria Estephan Live in Atlantis, Live in Miami, Yanni Live in Acropolis- All Concerts played well, audio was clean as a whistle, no video breaking.

End of report.

Now MC 23.0.70, the installer reported  it is MC 23.0.65, but it did installed ok, I check Help- About it reported it  is 23.0.70.
On the description of this  build, Where is "setnext"?
In Prior versions of MC 32 bit, I used to find the setNext.. transport options, on AMD64, i can not locate it.
Also slider was mentioned, I did not see a slider in Audio- Buffering.

Thanks.

George
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2017, 08:50:20 am »

George when you are playing to a DLNA device, the ONLY settings in MC that make any difference are the ones in the DLNA server settings in MC.
The differences between the Generic, Sony and Samsung templates mostly come down to under what situation transcoding is being used.

The only other difference between windows and linux in this area is the code used to move the data over the network.
Windows uses the windows networking stack and linux uses cURL (a generic library for network data transfer).

If your device supports the formats you are sending it, it's always best to use "original format" for the Video configuration in MC's DLNA server.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2017, 08:53:21 am »

Hi Bob,

I have a problem getting my blue tooth headset to work. Version 22 and 23.0.65 running at the same machine (SUSE Leap42.3) but bt-headset is only working with version 22. The device setup between both versions is identical.
Version 22 switches over to headset playback after synchronization and back to speaker, after the headset is turned of, version 23 only uses the speaker. Restarting playback etc. does not solve the problem.

Same issue with 23.0.70. 22.0.108 is working fine

Note: 1909959 -> ver 22; 191020 -> ver 23.

Since that code hasn't changed between 22 and 23 there still is likely something different between in the settings between your MC22 and MC23.
I'd check the format setting under Tools->Options->Audio->Device Settings
and also the DSP studio settings.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2017, 09:11:24 am »

Still having the problem changing a TAG field with focus jumping to autocomplete and requiring a click into the field to continue entering text. This happens every time the autocomplete window pops up. Also new to 23.0.70 the field labels have moved to the right side of the pane leaving space on the left. See screenshot. None of these behaviors in the Windows version. I am using Ubuntu 17.0.4
You can resize the tag window to eliminate the blank space. It does appear the auto field width is somewhat off.
Can't duplicate the autocomplete behavior in Debian XFCE. I suspect your window manager is setup with some focus stealing tweaks or some such. You'll need to do some investigation on that.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2017, 09:20:14 am »

You can resize the tag window to eliminate the blank space. It does appear the auto field width is somewhat off.
Can't duplicate the autocomplete behavior in Debian XFCE. I suspect your window manager is setup with some focus stealing tweaks or some such. You'll need to do some investigation on that.
Resizing the tag window pushes the data off the right (see attached). BTW this is new behavior as of 23.0.70. Not sure what tweaks I neeed to do to fix the autocomplete focus issue. FWIW this is a virgin install of Ubuntu 17.0.4 so it would affect anyone installing that flavor. BTW thanks for the help and gudeance this is a great forum!
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2017, 09:29:15 am »

Resizing the tag window pushes the data off the right (see attached). BTW this is new behavior as of 23.0.70. Not sure what tweaks I need to do to fix the autocomplete focus issue. FWIW this is a virgin install of Ubuntu 17.0.4 so it would affect anyone installing that flavor. BTW thanks for the help and guidance this is a great forum!
Click between the field name and the tag value and you should get a divider you can move to change the field name width.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2017, 09:41:26 am »

Click between the field name and the tag value and you should get a divider you can move to change the field name width.
Yes of course! Thanks for that. Strangely not a feature on the Windows version...
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2017, 11:13:14 am »

Running .70 Linux arm MC23 version. Connected to main library on another home computer. Can play from the library but the info in top display shows 320 bit rate on all songs. Thought I'd set everything to no conversion. No mp3s in the library, only flac files.
Others seen this in the linux build or is it a setting I missed? Thanks.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2017, 11:46:21 am »

Solved - had changed settings on the main library to not convert remote library files. Hadn't set it on the client side. Changed the defaults and now the display shows the correct bitrate.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2017, 12:43:31 pm »

George when you are playing to a DLNA device, the ONLY settings in MC that make any difference are the ones in the DLNA server settings in MC.
The differences between the Generic, Sony and Samsung templates mostly come down to under what situation transcoding is being used.

The only other difference between windows and linux in this area is the code used to move the data over the network.
Windows uses the windows networking stack and linux uses cURL (a generic library for network data transfer).

If your device supports the formats you are sending it, it's always best to use "original format" for the Video configuration in MC's DLNA server.

Yes, I already figured these differences. What I did not know is the networking stack used by Windows, and the Linux cURL.

Thanks for the Network 101 education <grin>.

The main reason I started with Linux, was because MC was only available in 32 bit, then suddenly JR slapped us with a much anticipated 64 bit. No need shutting down the Windows server any longer.

With the Windows and Linux server running now, I am learning a lot between the two operating systems.

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I have a desktop server that I had used for Windows 7 in the past. It is a special case Origen ST 21 with built-in 1080P screen. The build it 95% complete, except I need more Hard Drives, and the latest Nvidia GPU. It has 24 gig of memory.
I am planning to install Fedora 64 bit? Just to give me another exposure to a different distro.
Do you agree with using Fedora, or just stay with Ubuntu?. If Fedora, is it going to be same Jessie AMD64?
 
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2017, 06:27:50 am »

Since that code hasn't changed between 22 and 23 there still is likely something different between in the settings between your MC22 and MC23.
I'd check the format setting under Tools->Options->Audio->Device Settings
and also the DSP studio settings.

Hi Bob,
thanks for the reply.
I checked the configurations, but I couldn't find an difference. So, I swapped the "User Settings.ini" and the "Machine Settings.ini", but the problem still stays with the 23.xx version. The 22.xx version is running the headset also with the 23. ini files applied.
However, if you run the same source code, the must be a difference in how you pass the data to alsa. Both version running at the same machine, same configuration.
I run both versions simultaneously on speaker, when I connect to the headphone, MC22 switched over to bt-headphone, MC23 continued to use the speaker.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2017, 10:25:03 am »

Hi Bob,
thanks for the reply.
I checked the configurations, but I couldn't find an difference. So, I swapped the "User Settings.ini" and the "Machine Settings.ini", but the problem still stays with the 23.xx version. The 22.xx version is running the headset also with the 23. ini files applied.
However, if you run the same source code, the must be a difference in how you pass the data to alsa. Both version running at the same machine, same configuration.
I run both versions simultaneously on speaker, when I connect to the headphone, MC22 switched over to bt-headphone, MC23 continued to use the speaker.
Interesting.
They were both compiled on wheezy as well.
Are you running with the thread priorities enabled??
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2017, 10:27:16 am »

Yes, I already figured these differences. What I did not know is the networking stack used by Windows, and the Linux cURL.

Thanks for the Network 101 education <grin>.

The main reason I started with Linux, was because MC was only available in 32 bit, then suddenly JR slapped us with a much anticipated 64 bit. No need shutting down the Windows server any longer.

With the Windows and Linux server running now, I am learning a lot between the two operating systems.

btw..

I have a desktop server that I had used for Windows 7 in the past. It is a special case Origen ST 21 with built-in 1080P screen. The build it 95% complete, except I need more Hard Drives, and the latest Nvidia GPU. It has 24 gig of memory.
I am planning to install Fedora 64 bit? Just to give me another exposure to a different distro.
Do you agree with using Fedora, or just stay with Ubuntu?. If Fedora, is it going to be same Jessie AMD64?
 
Thanks.

George
I think Fedora would work OK but it's always going to be easier to stick with a debian or debian derived system.
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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2017, 10:52:40 am »

Fedora should be fine, but it requires more "hands on" setting up, versus Debian and Ubuntu.

IMO, the easiest distros to get MC working on the quickest is Ubuntu and Mint.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:16 am »

Interesting.
They were both compiled on wheezy as well.
Are you running with the thread priorities enabled??
I don't know. Where can I find this option? since I don't know it, probably not.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2017, 01:33:35 pm »

I think Fedora would work OK but it's always going to be easier to stick with a debian or debian derived system.

I will stick with Ubuntu or try Mint if I want to get in to something new.

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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2017, 01:35:41 pm »

Fedora should be fine, but it requires more "hands on" setting up, versus Debian and Ubuntu.

IMO, the easiest distros to get MC working on the quickest is Ubuntu and Mint.

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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2017, 02:34:16 am »

I don't know. Where can I find this option? since I don't know it, probably not.

Hi,
I've got the thread priorities enabled and working, but no change. MC22 works, MC23 not.
Also I checked the pulse-shm-files. It seems to me, there is no difference between both versions, except the thread priorities.   
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2017, 07:35:11 am »

Hi,
I've got the thread priorities enabled and working, but no change. MC22 works, MC23 not.
Also I checked the pulse-shm-files. It seems to me, there is no difference between both versions, except the thread priorities.

Hi Bob,
Problem solved! It has nothing to do with MC, because the ALSA plug-in allows different configuration for every application (see attached image). It's a little misleading, because the application will only pop up, when actually playing music. If I set this to "Beats Studio Wireless", it will switch to the headset as soon it's available.

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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2017, 09:51:37 am »

Hi Bob,
Problem solved! It has nothing to do with MC, because the ALSA plug-in allows different configuration for every application (see attached image). It's a little misleading, because the application will only pop up, when actually playing music. If I set this to "Beats Studio Wireless", it will switch to the headset as soon it's available.

Thanks
That's really useful info. Thanks for passing it on...
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.70 Tag field focus and position
« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2017, 11:12:19 am »

You can resize the tag window to eliminate the blank space. It does appear the auto field width is somewhat off.
Can't duplicate the autocomplete behavior in Debian XFCE. I suspect your window manager is setup with some focus stealing tweaks or some such. You'll need to do some investigation on that.
Unable to find any Ubuntu tweaks for window focus issue... any help greatly appreciated... cheers!
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie versioning incorrect?
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2017, 12:14:06 am »

The installer correctly saw it as 23.0.72, but after installation, it  says it is 23.0.65.
I removed prior version and reinstalled twice, no luck.
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2017, 12:06:45 pm »

A strange phenomenon: I have MC 23.0.72 installed, but Mc shows me that it is version 23.0.65?
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apt-cache policy mediacenter23
mediacenter23:
  Installiert:           23.0.72
  Installationskandidat: 23.0.72
  Versionstabelle:
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2017, 04:59:49 pm »

My old laptop also reverted to version 23.0.65 (from 23.0.70) after updating (running x64 MC).

My old desktop (using as a basic server) updated to 23.0.72 as expected (running i386 MC).

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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2017, 03:29:55 am »

Working off the repo I updated and then did a check at:
  Help > About Media Centre ...

And the build shows up as 23.0.65

Did a double take, so I did a wget from the web address and did a deb package reinstall. The install message came up with:
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~/Downloads/JRiver$ sudo dpkg -i MediaCenter-23.0.72-amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 264222 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack MediaCenter-23.0.72-amd64.deb ...
Unpacking mediacenter23 (23.0.72) over (23.0.72) ...
Setting up mediacenter23 (23.0.72) ...
Processing triggers for bamfdaemon (0.5.3+17.04.20170406-0ubuntu1) ...
Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.13.3-6ubuntu5) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-1ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.8-1) ...
Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'

So, the about build message looks like a typo ...

One to fix for next time?
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2017, 08:24:58 am »

Hi guys,

I'd like to report the following.

I have posted my issues running Media Center on Linux Debian 9.1 KDE earlier (I believe it was the .61 build thread). I just about tried everything since then.

My latest try was a clean install of Debian 9.2, the latest version, with KDE. I installed the AMD Radeon HD6000 series driver and verified hardware acceleration was working correctly. I then installed Media Center 23. Unfortunately, the weird problems and the poor performance of MC23 I posted earlier remain.

My hardware is:

- Asus F1A75-M Pro
- AMD A6-3500 APU
- 8 GB Ram

I tried running a clean Debian install using just the integrated motherboard graphics (Radeon HD 6430D), as well as my additional card (Radeon HD6450). I tried a lot of display drivers to tried to improve performance. So, no luck for me. Because I cannot resolve the poor performance of MC on Linux, I'm reluctantly going back to Windows for the time being. Thanks for the great software and all your great work!
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2017, 12:06:09 pm »

Working off the repo I updated and then did a check at:
  Help > About Media Centre ...

And the build shows up as 23.0.65

Did a double take, so I did a wget from the web address and did a deb package reinstall. The install message came up with:
So, the about build message looks like a typo ...

One to fix for next time?

According to the info regarding 23.0.72, there are lots of new features on this build, I checked, I did not see any new features regarding DLNA.
I used the installer to install, it correctly reported the version number.
Thanks
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Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2017, 12:30:05 pm »

Same problem here: Installed 23.0.72 and system reports version 23.0.65. Ubuntu 17.04 64bit.
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Re: Re: JRiver Media Center 23.0.72 for Debian Jessie (amd64, i386 and arm)
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2017, 02:28:03 pm »

Yeah, it's a typo though.
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