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[couchjr]

Doesn't make sense to remove native DSD playback capabilities from the Windows version, as some DACs support both native DSD and DoP playback via ASIO on Windows.

With Mac ASIO it's only supported by just a handful of DACs and I'm not even sure if any players support native DSD playback via Mac ASIO driver (I do know MC currently isn't one of them - try doing a search of the MC 22 and 21 for Mac forums for ASIO for more info). Otherwise DSD via DoP works fine on Mac (and Linux for that matter). But I think this discussion has deviated this topic enough - it's a discussion for another time (and proper topic, IMO) instead of hijacking this one.

The highly regarded exaSound DACs support ASIO and exaSound's George Klissarov has written an efficient ASIO driver for Mac (I believe HQPlayer supports it too, though I may be mistaken). Among other claimed benefits that some members here have disputed, his ASIO driver's efficient processing allows native DSD 256 to be processed without being converted to PCM. This is not a minor benefit.

I have been requesting that ASIO support be incorporated in MC for Mac since 2015. Obviously (based on the thread Awesome Donkey's quote is drawn from) I'm not the only one interested.

So I respectfully renew my request to the MC team: please add support for the exaSound ASIO driver to MC for Mac as soon as possible!

[kjoel]

I second this request.

[RD James]

Among other claimed benefits that some members here have disputed, his ASIO driver's efficient processing allows native DSD 256 to be processed without being converted to PCM. This is not a minor benefit.

I'm not against ASIO support on macOS, but DoP is not a conversion to PCM.
It's the exact same 1-bit audio data transmitted inside a different container.
There's zero difference between DoP and Native DSD. Use whichever your DAC supports, and if it supports both it doesn't matter which one you use.

[Airfla]

DoP on a Mac only supports DSD128. Native DSD must be used for DSD256 and that requires an ASIO driver.

[Awesome Donkey]

An ASIO driver on macOS is only available for exaSound DACs, otherwise DoP is the only option. If ASIO support on macOS is on JRiver's to-do list, it's probably very low on that list due to it only being available for exaSound DACs.

Also, I'm not aware there's a DoP limit on macOS with Core Audio, other than what the maximum sample rate supported by the DAC is (which the higher the sample rate supported, potentially the higher DSD formats supported via DoP). Unless I'm mistaken, at least up to DSD256 (DSD 4x) should be doable on macOS assuming the DAC supports a high enough sample rate allowing DoP to work. But DACs allowing DoP that high might be kinda rare.

[Iet]

I am a newcomer here, but face the problem of the absence of a proper ASIO driver for Macintosh discussed below. Due to the chip revolution even low budget DACs easily support higher sample rates (above DSD256) now, as well as the number of DSD512 downloads is increasing; so it seems urgent to have a solution.

Does anyone know if the exaSound ASIO driver for Mac can be generically applied? Indeed exaSound offers support to customize their driver for other purposes. Made JRiver any steps here? Or does anyone knows about the availability of a generic Mac ASIO driver (I couldn't find), also because it raise the signal processing in general.

I found that exaSound supports the use of HQPlayer as a mediaplayer, it looks as if HQPlayer have a ASIO driver solving this issue (anyone can confirm?). When correct and JRiver is not progressing it seems that JRiver is losing ground for Mac users to HQPlayer.

[Awesome Donkey]

The exaSound ASIO is only for exaSound DACs.

[Iet]

The exaSound ASIO is only for exaSound DACs.

Correct, got a prompt reply from George Klissarov.