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stanzani

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Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« on: November 08, 2017, 06:57:52 am »

It does not work. I am using nero AAC as external encoder with the following settings
C:\Program Files (x86)\NeroAACCodec\win32\neroAacEnc.exe
-q 0.55 -if %IN -of %OUT
(they work when I rip a CD)
I started to rip a single track: I can see the progress bar going to 100% ut the system then hangs (presumably) forevernever showing 'done'
Even worse, I see two temporary files named Temporary Convert File - 2392 (temp).wav always there like a process did not terminate. I checke task manager but JRiver + Services are not there
Please advise
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 08:21:14 am »

I'm not sure what's happening.

I just setup a rip using the same external codec and it just ripped all the tracks fine.  I have a pile of AAC files in my rip directory now.

Make sure you're running the latest copy of MC23.

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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 08:45:05 am »

Looks like it's a 32-bit encoder - will it work if you're using the 64-bit Windows build (you didn't specify if you're using it)? If not, that *could* be it.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 08:46:08 am »

Should be fine, its just another executable, they shouldn't care what bitdepth MC is using.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 09:53:54 am »

Thanks for your suggestion. BTW I cannot explain why the rip works fine and the convert files not, whatever 32 or 64 bit version of the nero I am using ...
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 09:55:37 am »

I'm not sure what's happening.

I just setup a rip using the same external codec and it just ripped all the tracks fine.  I have a pile of AAC files in my rip directory now.

Make sure you're running the latest copy of MC23.

Thanks.
Is there a separate rip directory? I was understand the rip files are written in the same directory. IT could be I am converting flac into mp4/aac (something Nero cannot du) so I have to convert into PCM first?)
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 03:09:44 am »

I did more investigations into this issue.
First, my extenal encoder settings so you 100% get what I set https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbxwtv2oqpd1emj/Screenshot%202017-11-09%2010.06.26.png?dl=0
Then I selected the built in mp3 encoder and the job is done correctly.
I enable the DOS prompt for the nero AAC and what I see is that the prgram is executed flawlessy but never exit as it does when I rip-and-convert

I may give up and use mp3 encoder instead

Thanks to whom will help
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2017, 03:14:07 am »

Upgraded to the latest version. Same (mis) behavior
What does it mean the black spot close to the tracks? https://www.dropbox.com/s/68pyapuynhfm5fa/Screenshot%202017-11-10%2010.13.49.png?dl=0
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2017, 03:44:32 am »

I use QAAC for this, as Apple's encoder is widely considered to be the highest quality.

Code: [Select]
--tvbr 127 --threading -o %OUT %IN
It would be nice if MC had an AAC encoder built in though.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 11:14:38 am »

Thank you so much I am trying now. Conversion complete without error but I cannot see the m4a file in the same folder as I'd expect. Are you shure about the options? should not it be --tvbr 127 --quality 2 --threading -o %OUT -i %IN instead of --tvbr 127 --quality 2 --threading -o %OUT %IN?
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 11:56:04 am »

No, -i is "Assume WAV input and ignore the data chunk length."
Encoder configuration is here: https://github.com/nu774/qaac/wiki/Encoder-configuration (looks like --quality 2 is redundant now)
Full list of command line options here: https://github.com/nu774/qaac/wiki/Command-Line-Options
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 06:38:27 am »

ok thank you
anyway the coded files cannot be found in the directory where the input files are located
I can just see a file named temporary ConvertFile- NNNN.wav :(
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 05:22:13 am »

I am trying again, ripping the CD instead of converting already existing wav files
still no joy: I cannot see any m4a file in the destination directory
I am using the same setting shown below

anybody else is using the apple m4a encoder?

thanks much
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 06:15:08 am »

I am trying with NERO AAC as weel. Same. It looks like that just FLAC (and probably the embedded ecoders) can be used ...)
I remember pretty well that i could use at least NERO ACC some weeks ago :(
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 07:04:19 am »

I know that this is repeating a lot of what I have posted before, but I tested another conversion and it's still working just fine.
Check that you have everything set correctly.



Click the […] button to bring up the encoder options, which should be set as follows:



Code: [Select]
--tvbr 127 --threading -o %OUT %IN
These commands will only work with the QAAC Encoder. Download the latest version here. It is currently qaac_2.65.zip

Click the Options link to bring up the audio conversion options:



Check the location you are converting to, and the mode that is being used. What these are set to is your preference, though I recommend that you do not use "replace original file on disk and in library" - at least not until you have confirmed that conversions are working as you intend.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2018, 08:39:04 am »

Thank you for your patience
I am doing exactly what shown in your instructions. to avoid network access related issue I set the dest folder as my computer desktop
I then ripped a CD setting the encoder as you did
still no files in the folder. The rip.log reports no issues, no errors

JRiver report an error icon (red with horiz with bar) in correspondance of the track ripped

I am trying this on two different windows 10 PCs ...

I tried to check the 'hide command window' option but I can just see the pwindow flashing and disappearing ...
I checked 'use file as it is'
no joy

for completeness, I am using C:\Program Files\qaac_2.65\x64\qaac64.exe

maybe is a version issue?
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2018, 09:17:24 am »

This sounds like it could be a permissions issue - either reading from the network, or writing to your desktop.
Create a new folder for "C:\temp" and try copying a few FLAC files there. Then have Media Center convert those files to AAC in the same directory. Try setting it to one file at a time.
If that works, the conversion is set correctly and something else is the problem.
If it does not work, try one of the built-in encoders, or copying QAAC into the "C:\temp" directory. Make sure that all files are there, and not just qaac64.exe
It shouldn't matter, but make sure that Media Center is up-to-date.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2018, 09:43:13 am »

I am ripping (I am not converting for now, just ripping) with encoder set to C:\Temp\qaac_2.65\x64\qaac64.exe
setting C:\Temp\ as destination folder

no progress so far
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2018, 10:20:09 am »

I am ripping (I am not converting for now, just ripping) with encoder set to C:\Temp\qaac_2.65\x64\qaac64.exe
setting C:\Temp\ as destination folder

no progress so far
Well I thought that might have something to do with it, but ripping works just fine here.
I would try to get file conversion working first rather than ripping, to eliminate as many variables as possible.
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2018, 10:43:20 am »

... I tried to check the 'hide command window' option but I can just see the pwindow flashing and disappearing ...

Hmm... this indicates that the command line program does not start at all.

Did you actually install the needed Apple software component? Qaac is only a frontend for the Apple AAC encoder.

You would need to install iTunes or at least the AppleApplicationSupport component from the iTunes installer file. In order to avoid installing the full iTunes software package you can extract just the AppleApplicationSupport64.msi component (for 64-bit) and install it separately. For example 7-Zip can open the iTunes installer and extract the file (see the attached screenshot).



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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2018, 10:52:49 am »

ok I ripped in flac format into tmp. OK. Convert format starts but hangs when the progress bar is 50%. A tmp file is created into tmp and nothing happens ..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w9porc7o8dxzw9/Screenshot%202018-03-11%2016.51.01.png?dl=0
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Re: Issue with Library Tools->Convert format
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2018, 05:45:10 am »

I will go bck to Nero AAC then, to avoid polluting my windows 10 system with Apple stuff :)
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