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LonWar

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Former MMJB Users
« on: June 17, 2003, 11:08:48 am »

Hello,
I'm just wondering how many users are former MusicMatch users?
Please post what version you used, Why you switched and what you think of this software.

I'm thinking about switching but I am still not sure...

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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2003, 11:26:08 am »

Hello,

I used MMJB since it was first released, and I liked it relative to the other options available at the time.  It combined the tagging, organization, ripping, etc. features that I had, until using MMJB, used multiple programs to manage.  I even tried MP3 Collectorz, and a myriad of other options.  I finally discovered Media Center about 1 year or so ago, and after installing it and inspecting its features (at that time - much, much has changed!), I immediately ditched everything else.  MMJB is the crappiest software (regardless of software type/purpose) that I have ever used.  It hogs resources, I hate the interface...I could go on...read what good things people have to say and you'll find a common thread..."Super Tagging", or whatever it's called.  Yeah, OK, it's pretty cool, when it works which, when I used it, was not often enough to rely on it.

Go Media Center, make the switch...once you've done it, and you spend about 3 or 4 days getting used to it (because it is different - much - than MMJB), you'll wonder how you ever really lived without it.

Trust me...

Wobbley

P.S. - I don't get compensated in any way to say this s__t.  I really love the app that much.  On that note, neither does anyone else who posts to these threads.  Come join the fun.

P.S.S. - Did I mention that there are upgrades/enhancements/fixes/improvements/new features almost daily with Media Center?  During the period of time in which you've used MMJB, how many NEW versions have their been? And when these NEW versions were released, how much was fixed/different/added about the new versions from the most previous old version?  Media Center cares about its users, and the MC team listen to what we suggest/ask for/complain about, which is why the software is d__mned incredible.  It's like having 1000+ people developing it, offering ideas, providing feedback, and reall UAT (User Acceptance Testing) that really allows MC to shine H&S above the rest.
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2003, 11:41:16 am »

I was (and still am a little) a MMJB registered user. There are only 2 things I still use it for since discovering Media Center: Transfering MP3s to my Intel Pocket Concert Audio player and playing CD quality internet radio, which I subscribe to for a few bucks a month.

Unfortunately I haven't been logging into Musicmatch iNet radio much lately, and find I can transfer tunes to my Intel using Microsoft Media Player, so I may stop using MMJB altogether soon.

Was fun while it lasted but doesn't hold a candle to MC9. (although it seems to find more album art covers at times...but that's a backend db issue I believe - I wonder if MC could be configured to point to what MMJB is pointing to perhaps?)...

Cheers,
Kwake
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2003, 11:48:01 am »

First let me state that I LOVE MEDIA CENTER! :)

However a friend bought MJ8 and still prefers MMJB.  His reasons:

He feels that the LAME encoder is overkill and way too slow with no perceptable improvement in quality.

He loves Super Tagging.

He uses MJ8 for bulk tagging but compares MJ8 to DOS and MMJB to Windows.  (I HATE MMJB's UI).

Again, these aren't my thoughts so don't rip the meat from my bones. :)

-=Tim=-
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2003, 12:26:50 pm »

Never used MusicMatch until  before few months.
Did the RealJukebox plus to MJ7 transfert some time ago.

Now i'am as well a registered user of MusicMatch.
FOR ONLY ONE THING : SuperTag.
I still have to get infos from YADB for even ONE song , i got thousands and thousands tags from SuperTags.

But ,beside it i do not see ANY raison to use MusicMatch for more than SuperTag.
Not that the jukebox is bad. I do think that this is a good 'mister average' player , but no more than it.

....one more thing : MM  DO  have an eject cd buton....
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2003, 12:35:00 pm »

What's so special about SuperTag?

From what I just read, it's all stuff that MJ has been able to do for a long time. Unless I'm missing something?
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2003, 01:55:52 pm »

Doof.
Pay $50 to a site to be able to download 4000 songs.

Now you want tags as they have to do ,and sleeves and some albums do not have tracks numbers and you can see that some tags have spelling mistakes ect .
Now try to get all of it right with MC.. and let me know...

With MM SuperTags ,upload the 4000 tracks -- not at once ,of cause -  and - if not to much europeen metal in it- for around 80/90 % you will get correct tags ,songs number and art sleeves.

Nothing to compare with any kind of YADB.

Of cause ,i'am sure that the MM staff working on ONLY SuperTag is double the total number of JRiver staff -- as you know there is no miracle....

The $20 i spent on MM are  among the best $$$ i spent on the net.

But ,to me ,i  spent on  a tagger ,not a jukebox
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2003, 02:55:00 pm »

>> What's so special about SuperTag?
It does work and does work very good.

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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2003, 05:18:14 pm »

Zev,
C'est le vin, bien sur (ici), mais j'ai plus en plus l'impressionne tres clair que ton anglais va tres bien.  Il y a longtemp, tu etait une bete qui personne ne comprend, mais maintenant tu parle comme un bush, et je comprend tout.

Je vais en vacances demain pour trois semaines.  Je vais en bateau a voile avec des amis sur la Mer Nord pour une semaine et plus.  

A plus tard (j'espair).

Jacques Couteau
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zevele10

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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2003, 11:53:47 pm »

Tu sais  , c'est comme toi le francais:

PARLER==ok
LIRE==ok
ECRIRE = c'est difficile
Toi aussi ,ton francais est meilleur qu'avant - really-

BONNES VACANCES.

In fact ,before starting posting on Interact i never really wrote in english .
From time to time a letter to friends ,no more.

Writing is difficult for many raisons:
- first many many words i know  and use when speaking ,i do not know the spelling

- Very stange ,but when you start to write in english ,you do much more mistakes than when you speak - grammar ,tense ect ect and spelling of cause.

Kind of you do the same mistakes than the ones you did when starting to speaks,years and years ago
Like it is a new language.

With time and tons of posts ,i start to write as i speak ,making things  more understandble... but i still like to create new words ...

Still need to progress ,because i speak and read much much better than i write.
Anyway ,not often ,but from time to time there is few movies ,i'am just lost.
Like Seven ,not sure i understood 20 % of the dialogues in this movie , the same with Xfiles and Millenium.

Si tu es a Paris  ,tu pourras renconter CMagic et Michel who is working in Paris for few months.

And post a picture of the killer trio....

Have fun and good time

Amuses toi bien
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2003, 12:13:59 am »

Zev,

This was where I went wrong with French.  When I did my French GCSE (an exam in England @ 16) it was mostly spoken french and I got an A Grade.  When I did A Level French, it was mostly written.  Like you say speaking is much easier than writing.  The examiners didn't take too kindly to me making up the words I didn't know and I got an N (the lowest possible pass mark).  Such is the world!  One of these days I plan to start learning French again.  I hope to at least learn some Italina ready for when I go to Italy in February.  English people are often very ignorant about learning other languages as we kind of expect that everybody else should speak English.  I find this a bit arrogant and I always try to speak a bit of the native language when I go somewhere...I even learent American when I went to America ;D  Your English is very good and I commend you for making the effort.  I only wish some more of us could do the same as Jim and speak to you in French occasionally.

Au Revoir,

Adam
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2003, 01:47:22 pm »

JimH,

Interesting...I cannot speak French, but here is how one website translated your writings...

"Zev, It is the wine, well on (here), but I have more in more impresses it very clearly that your English is very well. There is longtemp, you was a bete which nobody includes/understands, but now you speaks like a bush, and I all includes/understands. I go on holiday tomorrow for three weeks. I go in sailing boat with friends on the Northern Sea for one week and more. With later (I to espair). Jacques Knife"

I laughed a bit, especially at the "...you speaks like a bush..." bit  ;)

Wobbley
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2003, 02:21:23 pm »

C'est le vin, bien sur (ici), mais j'ai plus en plus l'impressionne tres clair que ton anglais va tres bien.  Il y a longtemp, tu etait une bete qui personne ne comprend, mais maintenant tu parle comme un bush, et je comprend tout.

Je vais en vacances demain pour trois semaines.  Je vais en bateau a voile avec des amis sur la Mer Nord pour une semaine et plus.  

A plus tard (j'espair).

Jacques Couteau




Can be because of the wine , but i do think that your english is fine.
Long ago ,when you started to post  , you been kind of a beast that none understood , but now you speak like a bush --? ? ?? ? ?- and i understand all

Tomorrow i leave for 3 weeks holidays. Sealing with friends on the north see for more than a week.
See you later [ i hope]

Jacques Cousteau must be Cousteau the very famous sailor  , doing movies about sea , underwater ,and islands .
He was fund by the US ,so you may know him



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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2003, 03:46:20 pm »

MusicMatch Jukebox was the first MP3 player/ripper I ever used. When I got it I only had a few hundred of my favorite songs and I was very happy with it.

Fast forward a little under 3 years...

I decide to rip my entire CD collection (currently about 800) and the problems started.

...taking longer and longer to sort and browse (started after about 2000 or 3000 files)
...harder and hard to navigate and find the song I wanted to listed to

I decided to contact MMJ and ask them why MMJ was slowing down so much...there answer was I had too many songs and that I should start creating a few different libraries to speed up MMJ. Well I had no intension of creating different libraries to organize my songs.

Fast forward 3 or so months...

I was searching CNET for some tool or another when I saw an old review of Media Center. I read it and decided to try it out. My first impressions were...eehh it's ok (Only played around with it for a few hours). I searched for a replacement for MMJ for a few more days but couldn't find anything that I really liked so I played around with Media Center some more...

Fast forward to now...

It's only been a couple of months since I bought Media Center but I am HOOKED. ;D

...10,000 songs in my database and its fast as hell
...I can organize my database to my hearts content (LOVE those custom fields)

Oh Yeah don't forget the smart list (with this little tool I will never have to create a play list manually)

There are a lot more reasons why MC is better then MMJ but I will only list one more...

In the entire time that I used MMJ I only communicated with MMJ (in any way) once (See above). I still don't know if they have a message board like MC. Before I bought MC I monitored the message board for a few weeks and was blown away by the activity. I don't know if this is normal (I don't use message boards much) but the level of communication between the users was incredible and so was the communication with the users and MC.

I still use MMJ to rip my music collection (I have a life time upgrade with them and I want to feel like my moneys wasn't spent in vein :-[) and might see how well it helps my tag the files I got from Weblisten.

That all I have to say...hope it helps...

P.S. This is off topic but what does

"Bump"

Mean? ?
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johnp

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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2003, 06:11:24 pm »

"bump" is like giving the elbow to someone to wake them up so they will answer your post.  It's also used to add information to a previous post.

I too am a long time MMJB user (since the very first version).  For me the UI has always been an issue, but I have been able to find skins that are not so "disco" and pretty much gotten used to it.  There are a few reasons I still like MMJB although I hope they will be fading away in the near future.

1.  SuperTagging (already mentioned)
2.  CDDB searching.  I have plugged in some pretty obscure stuff into my PC and MMJB somehow finds all the info. the first time including cover art.  In my tests with MC I have had limited success.
3.  wav file tagging is done the same way that mp3 files are tagged.  All info is concatenated at the end of the file so if you fire up a new PC on your network you can just import the files and everything is just like home.  This is particularly useful in heterogeneous networks where interoperation with other players / servers is required.

Things you can't get with MMJB (and may never get)  
1.  webremote plugin that allows access to your music from any wired or wireless PC running XML or HTML interfaces.  This is very cool indeed.  It turns your machine into a true music server with 2-way wireless interaction with your music library from a PDA or tablet PC.
2.  Multiple zone output.  This feature takes the music server role to the next level and allows you to generate separate playlist to different sound devices in the PC.  Very powerful, but could use tighter integration with the webremote feature (hint hint).
3.   2 words; View schemes.  This allows you to sort your music/media library in as many different ways as you can think of.  Album, Artist/Album, Genre/Artist/Album  you get the picture.  I have been begging MusicMatch for this feature since it was shareware.
Those are the high points and I have only been using it for a week.  I imagine there are lots and lots of other cool features that I haven't even discovered yet.
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Re: Former MMJB Users
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2003, 08:06:21 pm »

"Bump" comes from a user bumping the thread back to the top of the list by either editting their post, or by actually posting into the thread again. The word "Bump" was often just used to indicate the nothing had changed in the thread, but that somebody was hoping that it would generate more conversation.
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