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I did try changing the volume settings and leveling settings. Maybe a restart after the change is needed? I'll try again.
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I had a chance to experiment more with the Chromecast Audio volume.

In Playback Settings if Volume Leveling for Audio is enabled the CCA's volume goes to apx 25%. If it is unchecked the CCA's volume goes to 100%. In either case if the CCA's volume is changed using the Google Home app it goes back to either apx 25% or 100% depending on if the Volume Leveling is checked.

The amount of Volume Leveling used does make a difference but even setting it at -2 brings the CCA's volume way down into the 30's. Setting it to -11 brought the volume to 4.

Volume leveling is nice but I guess I'll leave it off.

The other issue is that I could find no way to control the volume from MO4 while casting I tried Device and MC Volume.
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The other issue is that I could find no way to control the volume from MO4 while casting I tried Device and MC Volume.

I will look into adding manual volume control for Chromecast.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android Auto support
« Reply #303 on: January 29, 2019, 06:36:56 am »

2. (I know there's very little chance, e.g. a snowball's chance in hell) and I can't believe I'm asking this... but I'm wondering if this could possibly be ported to Windows as a UWP type of app? Reason being, I've got some cheap Windows 10 tablets, which could make perfect use of being a remote for MC.

I am not sure if it will work on tablets, but a UWP version is now available: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,119267.0.html
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Hehehe, I'll give it a go, thanks! :)
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #305 on: February 02, 2019, 07:51:01 pm »

Great app - I just purchased it and so far I love it!

One thing that I notice that might be a deal breaker for me is the lack of single song download for offline capability mode as well as the ability to download all songs (offline) from a playlist. Is it something you are willing to add in the short term?

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #306 on: February 03, 2019, 08:51:30 am »

One thing that I notice that might be a deal breaker for me is the lack of single song download for offline capability mode as well as the ability to download all songs (offline) from a playlist.

You can download all songs from a playlist.  Tap the more button (three dots) next to the playlist name or tap the play button at the top when viewing the files in the playlist.  I don't plan to to add single song download but you can easily add a song to a new or existing playlist and then download the playlist.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #307 on: February 03, 2019, 12:59:48 pm »

Sweet, the 3 dots doesn't do anything in the playlist for me for some weird reason, but I could see the download if I click on the play.

Is there any reason to not allow a single file download? I could create a dumy playlist and download it through that but seems like a work-around to me?

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #308 on: February 03, 2019, 01:43:24 pm »

Is there any reason to not allow a single file download? I could create a dumy playlist and download it through that but seems like a work-around to me?

That's just the way the downloads are implemented.  I could look into having the app do this for you in the future.  That is, allow Download for individual files and it will put it in a preset Playlist for single downloads.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #309 on: February 05, 2019, 12:13:29 pm »

I installed on my Nvidia Shield and connected to my JRiver library with the access key. I also signed up for the free trial. But i cannot play anything. I can see my library (audio is all I use jriver for), I can select anything in the audio library, but when I go to a track there is no option to play anything, there are no buttons to do anything just album art. I am including an example below. I can access my library from other PC's and with JRemote no problem

https://imgur.com/a/DCQCGS7
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #310 on: February 05, 2019, 12:20:08 pm »

Currently only video is supported in Android TV.  I have been working on Audio and Images and the update will be released soon (hopefully in the next week).
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #311 on: February 05, 2019, 12:27:42 pm »

Is it possible at some point for MO 4Media to cache tracks? I've noticed if I'm streaming a song on my phone, then have it go back to 0 to play the song again, it seems to re-download the track again which can take a few seconds before starting (instead of starting immediately if it was cached).
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #312 on: February 05, 2019, 12:57:29 pm »

The built-in Android player is used for playback so it manages streaming and any caching.  But even if I stop and restart a track it is very quick for me.  If you are doing conversion, this might be a cause of some delay.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #313 on: February 05, 2019, 01:04:00 pm »

Definitely not doing any conversion, hmmm. Odd.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #314 on: February 13, 2019, 05:49:48 am »

v1.5.0 has been released.  It adds Audio and Images to Android TV.

-[ATV] Add Audio playback and Images display
-[ATV] Add preliminary support for movie trailer playback (MC25 required)
-[ATV] Add option to disable subtitle display by default
-[ATV] Support MO_Offline custom field
-[AUTO] Fix detection of subscription without main app running
-Add Repeat modes for device playback
-Add file menu options in Playing Now to Play/move next and Remove from list
-Activating zone on server from app switches to control that zone

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #315 on: February 13, 2019, 09:51:10 am »

-Add Repeat modes for device playback

YAY! It works very well, thank you very much! :)

I do have one additional idea that could be added as a toggle in Settings > Interface... add an option to allow using |< to reset the current track instead of the current default behaviour of going to the previous track. Single press would reset current track, second/double press would change to the previous track. I'm aware I could just press on the playback bar to open the seekbar and press the 0 << button, but I'd like to be able to eliminate the extra button presses.

Well, I take it back, I do have one more idea but it's pretty far "out there" on the fringes of possibility. It'd be some sort of A-B repeat type of deal using the seekbar (you can press on the seekbar to add an A point then press again to add a B point and allow dragging of both points and the app would playback between the A to B points). But I realize MC itself doesn't seem to have A-B repeat, so this one would be considered pretty "out there".
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #316 on: February 13, 2019, 10:12:06 am »

Questions about the new subtitle default to off option, which I can't wait to setup and try: Does this allow forced subtitles? Does it use the subtitle track previously set on my HTPC? Or is it just OFF?

Thanks for the continued support.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #317 on: February 13, 2019, 11:18:58 am »

I do have one additional idea that could be added as a toggle in Settings > Interface... add an option to allow using |< to reset the current track instead of the current default behaviour of going to the previous track.

I will consider this but note that you can do this with only 1 extra button press now: stop + play.

Your "out there" idea is very unlikely but I will put it on the list anyways :).
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #318 on: February 13, 2019, 11:35:44 am »

Questions about the new subtitle default to off option, which I can't wait to setup and try: Does this allow forced subtitles? Does it use the subtitle track previously set on my HTPC? Or is it just OFF?

Unfortunately, I don't have access to the subtitle track flags (forced, default) so this option is just off except for those you override by choosing a specific subtitle track in the playback menu (saved for each device as before).  You can get just forced subtitles to display if you don't enable this new option and edit the mkv header of a given file setting the "Default track" flag of unwanted subtitles to "no".
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #319 on: February 16, 2019, 01:37:02 pm »

v1.5.0 has been released.  It adds Audio and Images to Android TV.

-[ATV] Add Audio playback and Images display

Wow, this is awesome.  A few points now that I've been able to play with it:

- If the music doesn't have cover art, it doesn't play.  I can get to the files list, I click a file, then just a blank screen.  If I go to a track with cover art, I click the file and get the play, etc buttons. 
- It wasn't obvious to me that in the Playing Now view I could get the playlist up by hitting the down arrow on my remote.  You might want to put something that makes it more obvious that there's "stuff" down there.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #320 on: February 17, 2019, 07:46:29 am »

Thanks, I will look into both of these.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #321 on: February 17, 2019, 07:47:35 am »

On my Mi Box S I have embedded album art in my FLAC files (which shows correctly) but the music never plays.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #322 on: February 17, 2019, 07:50:57 am »

On my Mi Box S I have embedded album art in my FLAC files (which shows correctly) but the music never plays.

FLAC plays fine on my Shield.  You could try to add it to the conversion types in Settings in case it cannot handle FLAC for some reason.
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« Reply #323 on: February 17, 2019, 08:28:21 am »

Yep, that works. I guess that finally gives me another reason to get a Nvidia Shield, eh? ;)
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #324 on: February 20, 2019, 04:55:37 pm »

v1.5.1 is available which is mainly a bug fix release.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #325 on: February 20, 2019, 06:09:53 pm »

any possibility to play back multi channel flac, 96/24 or 48/24?

stereo works...   this is on an nvidia shield

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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #326 on: February 20, 2019, 07:35:48 pm »

Unfortunately not with the built-in Android player.  I might look into a different player for the future which may make it possible.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #327 on: February 23, 2019, 06:18:29 pm »

The seek functions don't seem to be working properly.

Hitting +30s goes to 30 seconds into the song. Doesn't matter if the song before or after 30 seconds already. +5s seems to be returning the song to the beginning.

I got that behavior on a few tracks. On another the seek buttons didn't do anything but the counter on the left side would change.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #328 on: February 23, 2019, 07:22:04 pm »

Unfortunately not with the built-in Android player.  I might look into a different player for the future which may make it possible.

looks like since dec 13, 2018 the shield now supports 5.1 flac @96/24.  some apps seem to work, e.g. Emby, Kodi, PlexForKodi.   Plex it seems is broken.   there’s hope anyway!

i think all of those apps use their own player, or an open source player and not the built in.
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Re: MO 4Media - remote control and player with Android TV & Android Auto support
« Reply #329 on: February 24, 2019, 07:47:12 am »

The seek functions don't seem to be working properly.

Sorry, I'm not seeing this.  Any particular file type?  Is this when playing to the device?
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v1.5.2 is now available which adds a "previous" button behavior option (Interface settings) and stream toggling when watching video in MC (in three-dot menu in Playing Now).
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So, I picked up a Nvidia Shield TV today and... everything works perfectly! FLAC works! Gapless playback works! Quite pleased with the Shield TV - I should've just got it to begin with. :)
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Sorry, I'm not seeing this.  Any particular file type?  Is this when playing to the device?

I finally had a chance to try it again. Everything is working properly. Computer and phone have been restarted since it was acting weird.
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Love the app. One issue is some files can take 20 to 30 seconds to start playing. This is mainly long (2 hour) continuous DJ mixes. Others mixes start up fine. This is with MO 4Media on an android TV.
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One issue is some files can take 20 to 30 seconds to start playing. This is mainly long (2 hour) continuous DJ mixes.

Not sure what would cause this, but if it is a single 2-hour-long track, then maybe some kind of unusual buffering is happening.
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Great App! Is there any possibility to show the ratings in the library view?
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You can show custom info for files which could include the rating.  See "Custom Library Fields" in the first post.
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Oh thanks for the Info, will check this.
One additional question: Is it possible to edit the order of the tracks in playing now and playlists?
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One additional question: Is it possible to edit the order of the tracks in playing now and playlists?

There currently is only "Play/move next" in Playing Now.

Let me know if you need any help with the custom library fields.
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New customer here! Thanks for the very great product.

Some thoughts about UX:
- The option to move menu buttons to the bottom is a great idea! Would be awesome to also have the playback buttons at the bottom as well (see attachment)
- Double taping (|<) can be tedious when option for restarting current file is enabled. Maybe add a buffer to increase the second stroke window.
- Hitting system button "Previous" always quits MO 4Media (my phone: MIUI, Android 8 ). I had myself surprised several times while I was expecting to go back to a previous page (when switching between menu tabs for instance)

Keep up the awesome work :)
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- The option to move menu buttons to the bottom is a great idea! Would be awesome to also have the playback buttons at the bottom as well (see attachment)
- Double taping (|<) can be tedious when option for restarting current file is enabled. Maybe add a buffer to increase the second stroke window.
- Hitting system button "Previous" always quits MO 4Media (my phone: MIUI, Android 8 ). I had myself surprised several times while I was expecting to go back to a previous page (when switching between menu tabs for instance)

1) I will consider adding an option for this.
2) I will look into it but I am not sure I can control this.
3) Tabs are not considered separate pages and the tab navigation is not tracked.  I could put up a message asking if you want to exit the app which you could cancel.

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- Hitting system button "Previous" always quits MO 4Media (my phone: MIUI, Android 8 ). I had myself surprised several times while I was expecting to go back to a previous page (when switching between menu tabs for instance)

On my Android 9 Sony Xperia XZ Premium the Android previous/back button just minimises/hides MO 4Media. It doesn't close it and the music keeps playing. It also leaves the controls in the Notifications list. I have to swipe the App to actually close it.

A message with a Cancel option would be annoying.
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On my Android 9 Sony Xperia XZ Premium the Android previous/back button just minimises/hides MO 4Media.

After some investigation, that is what I see too and is also how other apps behave so I don't plan to add a message.
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Yeah the message would be annoying and thanks for correcting me, previous button indeed minimizes the app on my phone instead of closing it.
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- Double taping (|<) can be tedious when option for restarting current file is enabled. Maybe add a buffer to increase the second stroke window.

Sorry, turns out I don't have control over the double-tap timing.  I would recommend disabling the restart option and when you need to restart the current file just tap Stop and then Play.
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Sorry, turns out I don't have control over the double-tap timing.  I would recommend disabling the restart option and when you need to restart the current file just tap Stop and then Play.

Hey cncb, thanks for looking into this!
Nice tip about Stop/Play, I'll be using this from now on :)

Also, a new idea stroke me:
Are you considering implementing a local cache to save bandwidth?
I noticed that the track is downloaded again if Repeat Mode is set to current item.
There are plenty of other scenarios where this feature could be helpful.

Technically, the app would need to store the X latest MCWS /GetFile calls.
Then, for each new one, it would compare the attributes of it with that table.

I think it could give good value to your customers.
Hope it makes sense.
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Are you considering implementing a local cache to save bandwidth?

This is an interesting idea, but one I am unlikely to implement since it would cause significant more complexity for me with (debatable) small gains.  If you find yourself replaying a lot of the same tracks, you could consider downloading them within the app and playing offline.
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This is an interesting idea, but one I am unlikely to implement since it would cause significant more complexity for me with (debatable) small gains.  If you find yourself replaying a lot of the same tracks, you could consider downloading them within the app and playing offline.

Thanks for your honest answer! Is it related to any particular Xamarin limitation?
I usually don't know which track I'll be replaying as I use my music library to rate new releases. The download feature will be handy for the tracks I already know and love though.
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App crash everytime right after connecting to server. I am using newest JRiver 25 and my phone is Nokia 8.1 with newest Android 9.
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App crash everytime right after connecting to server. I am using newest JRiver 25 and my phone is Nokia 8.1 with newest Android 9.

Sorry for the troubles.  I tried a Pie to MC 25 connection and don't experience a crash.  Are there any hints or does the app just shut down?  Are you able to connect to the same server via Panel in a browser?
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