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cncb

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App crash everytime right after connecting to server. I am using newest JRiver 25 and my phone is Nokia 8.1 with newest Android 9.

Another user has a similar problem.  Are you by chance using different locales (language, regional settings) on your device and server?
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v1.5.3 is now available which fixes a crash discovered when using mismatched locales on device and server.  It also adds an option to put the tracks list on top or bottom of the Playing Now screen.
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Unfortunately, I don't have access to the subtitle track flags (forced, default) so this option is just off except for those you override by choosing a specific subtitle track in the playback menu (saved for each device as before).  You can get just forced subtitles to display if you don't enable this new option and edit the mkv header of a given file setting the "Default track" flag of unwanted subtitles to "no".

How do I edit the MKV header?
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Is there a way to have the app always open to a specific zone?
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Another user has a similar problem.  Are you by chance using different locales (language, regional settings) on your device and server?

I'm that user and I can verify that v1.5.3 fixed the issue with different locales.

Great app and even greater developer, thanks for the fantastic support!  :)
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I'm trying to add tracks to a playlist (new or one already created) but they don't show up in the playlist. If I create a new playlist from the app and add tracks the only thing I see is one empty playlist, If I then add tracks in that playlist from MC on the server they pop up just fine.

I'm sure there is something I have missed like always (hence my nick), so please help one happy camper out!

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How do I edit the MKV header?

1) Download "mkvtoolnix" and run the gui.
2) Select "File | Header editor"
3) Select "File | Open" and select the mkv file
4) Expand the desired subtitle track, select 'Default track flag', set the value to "No"
5) Select "File | Save"

This is from an old version of mkvtoolnix, so I hope the steps are still the same.

Is there a way to have the app always open to a specific zone?

It always opens to the last selected zone in the app.  I can consider adding an option to select a specific zone if this doesn't work for you.
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I'm trying to add tracks to a playlist (new or one already created) but they don't show up in the playlist. If I create a new playlist from the app and add tracks the only thing I see is one empty playlist, If I then add tracks in that playlist from MC on the server they pop up just fine.

Make sure you are using a login with write access to the library.  Does it show the popup message in the app that the file was successfully added but still doesn't show up in the playlist?
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Make sure you are using a login with write access to the library.  Does it show the popup message in the app that the file was successfully added but still doesn't show up in the playlist?

Nope, no popup message...so how do I login with write access, access key isn't enough?
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Nope, no popup message...so how do I login with write access, access key isn't enough?

In the Media Network settings in MC, turn on "Authentication" and log in with the user name and password that you specify there.  But it should show a popup message in the app if the add fails, so I am not sure why that is not happening.
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1) Download "mkvtoolnix" and run the gui.
2) Select "File | Header editor"
3) Select "File | Open" and select the mkv file
4) Expand the desired subtitle track, select 'Default track flag', set the value to "No"
5) Select "File | Save"

This is from an old version of mkvtoolnix, so I hope the steps are still the same.

It always opens to the last selected zone in the app.  I can consider adding an option to select a specific zone if this doesn't work for you.

Thanks, your responses are always appreciated.

1) I was looking everywhere in MC for the Header Tag. Glad I asked.

2) The only reason I would like it to have the zone startup option is that I have tried playing music from my phone at work but the last zone I used was at home. I proceeded to crank the volume wondering why I couldn't hear anything. Yes my wife was home. The option would be to protect me from myself.

Still love the app and that it gets so much support.
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In the Media Network settings in MC, turn on "Authentication" and log in with the user name and password that you specify there.  But it should show a popup message in the app if the add fails, so I am not sure why that is not happening.

Thank you!
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I *love* the interface of MO 4Media!
Unfortunately I'm having difficulties with it: selecting an item in it and playing it starts playing what was in "Now playing" rather than what I selected.  Is this a known problem?
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When you select an item, which option in the popup box do you select? Play? It should work - it works perfectly here.
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I've tried play and play all from here.  I've also gone and explicitly cleared my "Now playing" and that too doesn't help.
At the same time, I'm able to use MC Panel without a problem.  I have the latest version of MC.
Any tips would be appreciated.
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cncb

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Have you tried closing the app and restarting MC on the server?  Otherwise, could you describe exactly the steps that cause this?  Thanks.
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Here is a sequence of steps that shows multiple problems; please let me know if you need any clarifications...this is trivially reproducible.

Restart MC and MO 4Media
Picked "player" from MO 4Media (this the imac running MC)
Playing now shows "walking blind" in "dead man walking" soundtrack
Hitting play in MO 4Media starts playing music in imac
Hitting pause pauses it
Search for "Diana Krall" on MO 4Media. 
Click on "Look of Love" album
Hit "Play" at the top of the screen and in the popup pick "Play"
MO 4Media shows me the "Playing Now" view with the same "Dead Man Walking"; i.e., hitting play above made no difference and no music is playing

Go back to search results, pick a song from Diana Krall, and hit "Play" in the popup.
It starts playing.

Now go back to search results, pick the first song from the "Look of Love" album and click "Play all from here"

MO 4Media shows me the "Playing Now" view with the same first song, but that song now stops playing and the album does NOT start playing (i.e., no music)
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cncb

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Thanks for the report and sorry that it is not working.  I can reproduce this and will try to have a fix out quickly.  In the meantime, you can use the Library to find a specific artist and play tracks until I fix Search.  That is, go to the Library tab, tap "Audio", then "Artist", tap the search icon at the top right (below Search tab), type in "di", tap the search button in the keyboard and it should jump to near "Diana Krall".
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Thanks cncb...that part works but that part is no better than using Panel...
It is the search-and-play that I really want and it seems that MO 4Media is totally headed in the right direction!
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Hi cncb.
On my android 9 phone I had MO 4Media crashing every time I opened it yesterday. Turns out I wasn't connected to a wifi network. After connecting properly it stopped crashing.
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cncb

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Turns out I wasn't connected to a wifi network. After connecting properly it stopped crashing.

I will look into this.  Thanks.
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I noticed recently that if I change the volume with multiple taps of the physical volume keys, I only see the volume changing tag on the screen after the first change.  So I'll go volume up, volume up, volume up, and the screen just shows the initial up.  Let me know if that doesn't make sense.
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cncb

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So I'll go volume up, volume up, volume up, and the screen just shows the initial up.

I see this randomly too.  I will look into it.
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v1.5.4 is now available which should fix the recently reported bugs.  Thanks for the reports.
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I saw the update notification this morning. I immediately set the default zone. Thanks for the continued work.
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Thanks for the bug fixes.  I tried it yesterday and it works without a hitch...
Thank you!
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If I download a playlist and then play that playlist from the library tab, it'll play my downloaded files and not attempt to stream them, correct? When I'm playing the playlist from the library tab, there's a few second pause between songs that feels like buffering... how do I know I'm playing the local copy?

 Great remote, and getting better with every update. Thanks!
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cncb

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If I download a playlist and then play that playlist from the library tab, it'll play my downloaded files and not attempt to stream them, correct?

Yes, if you are offline it will only play downloaded, local files (it will say "Offline" for the server name in the middle of the top status bar, if not select "Go Offline" when you tap the server name to get there).
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When I compare Gizmo to MO 4Media playing radio stations, I cannot see any information on MO. Gizmo shows Interpret, Album and Song. Tested on several radio stations. Do you have the same experience? Thank you.
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When I compare Gizmo to MO 4Media playing radio stations, I cannot see any information on MO. Gizmo shows Interpret, Album and Song. Tested on several radio stations. Do you have the same experience? Thank you.

I assume you mean when playing a radio station on/to the device?  Please post a link to a radio station and I will look into it.  By the way, I am not sure what you mean by "Interpret"? Thanks. 
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Hi cncb

Something that may not be working correctly or maybe was never implemented is how the "Jump to" search works with articles.

An example is if MC is set to ignore "the", then if you try to jump to The Rolling Stones in MO 4Media you will still have to type "The Rol" to get there. In JRemote you can use The Rol" of just "Rol" to get there.
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cncb

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Something that may not be working correctly or maybe was never implemented is how the "Jump to" search works with articles.

It was never implemented but I will work on it.  In the meantime you can try the "Filter" search if you haven't already.  Thanks.
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I assume you mean when playing a radio station on/to the device?  Please post a link to a radio station and I will look into it.  By the way, I am not sure what you mean by "Interpret"? Thanks.

Thank you. I am sorry for my English. I am playing on a server player (PC and USB DAC), I use my mobile phone as a remote. I am sending you screenshots. I listened to radio Paradise - link: http://stream-uk1.radioparadise.com/aac-320.
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I am playing on a server player (PC and USB DAC), I use my mobile phone as a remote. I am sending you screenshots.

Thank you for the information.  I hope to fix this in the next release.
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That is a Radio Paradise stream, so this may be relevant:

It's important to note that RP isn't currently providing ICY-MetaData in the stream so you won't see details of the track, cover art, etc.
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What OS(s) and Version you are running:     Windows 10 Pro 64bit Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.572).
The JRMark score of the PC with an issue:    JRMark (version 26.0.52 64 bit): 3419
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That is a Radio Paradise stream, so this may be relevant:

It is not only Radio Paradise. there is the same problem with Audiophile Blues & Rock radio and others.
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It is not only Radio Paradise. there is the same problem with Audiophile Blues & Rock radio and others.

Please post links to other stations for testing.  Thanks.
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Please post links to other stations for testing.  Thanks.

Here you are.
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cncb

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v1.6.0 is now available which should fix the web radio metadata display issue and adds Radio JRiver and Radio Paradise playback from the library browser (see second post for all changes).
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Feature request:
I wanted to listen to my CD that had Ravel's Bolero on it.  So I searched for Bolero and sure enough it found the track.  There is no obvious way to go to the CD from the song without doing another search.  It would be great if I could get to the enclosing album from the song.
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There are problems with https connections in the new release.  Sorry, I will try to get a fix out ASAP.
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It would be great if I could get to the enclosing album from the song.

I can add an entry similar to "Internal search for artist" in the menu when you tap a file to do this.
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Adding "Internal search for album" would be great.
There is still a problem: e.g., I just tried internal search for artist on a Bruce Springsteen song.  It gave me the search page with a section for Album, one for Album Artist etc.  However the album section is grossly incomplete: it shows only 6 hits (I have a lot more of Bruce Springsteen).  How do I get *all* the hits?
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However the album section is grossly incomplete: it shows only 6 hits (I have a lot more of Bruce Springsteen).  How do I get *all* the hits?

I can limit "Internal search for artist" to just display results for "Album" and "Artist" which should display all the albums (unless you have over 50, which is the limit of the total search results).
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v1.6.1 is now available which fixes the https connection problems in the last release and adds the "Show album" function recently discussed.
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I have tried 1.6.0 version, thank you for "radio fix", it is OK.
Radio Paradise is working, but Radio JRiver has a problem to start.
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Radio Paradise is working, but Radio JRiver has a problem to start.

If you are running MC on Linux as your signature suggests, make sure you have the latest version (25.0.37).  But it looks like all the recent fixes for Radio JRiver have not made it into the Linux version yet.
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The show album works and is great.  Thank you!
W.r.t. full set of hits:
To continue with the Springsteen example, the search results contain sections for Album, Album Artist, Artist, ...
If I click on the header (e.g., Album) I would really just like to see the list of albums that match (I think you said this would be limited to 50 but that is good enough).  However clicking on Album gives me a long list of songs...not what I wanted or expected.  Could you change the behavior of clicking on these headers so that clicking on Albums shows you a list of Albums, Artists shows you a list of matching artists, etc.
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However clicking on Album gives me a long list of songs...not what I wanted or expected.

Sorry, I probably will disable tapping on the headers to avoid confusion.  The initial search that displays the headers uses all fields together to generate the results.  Clicking on a header searches for files containing the given string in that specific field.  These will not produce the same results.  For example, an initial search for "van" will show albums by Van Halen under the Albums header, but tapping on the header will just show files containing "van" in the album field which might be none.

To show you all the albums in your example, I could either provide a mechanism to limit the fields used in the initial search (like I did for "Internal search for artist") or remove the limitation of the number of total search results (currently at 50 to make the list manageable).  I will think about it.
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If you are running MC on Linux as your signature suggests, make sure you have the latest version (25.0.37).  But it looks like all the recent fixes for Radio JRiver have not made it into the Linux version yet.

I upgraded Linux and MC - no change. When I start JRiver radio on the PC, I can see it on MO4.
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