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[cncb]

Battery Optimize should not effect this.  It might be possible that you didn't realize you were playing to a zone on the server instead of the device, which I have done before .

[High-End]

I love EOS. Unfortunately, it is a bit bitchy, especially in conjunction with a current Android version.
Of the current offerings, the MO4M is supposed to be the most promising. Installed, paid and immediately have some wishes / suggestions for improvement :-)
* The most important thing is to be able to turn off the computer via MO4M. There seems to be an "OFF script". But that does not do anything usable.
* Editable "Play List". It should be possible to reorder the entries in the playlist or to delete parts of it.
* Selection possibility in the library view: It should be possible to select several songs within an album and then send them to the play list. As now, to select each song individually is much too cumbersome.
* Finally: MO4M seems to have a problem with the display. I was using a Samsung S6 tablet as an HTPC remote. In landscape mode, MO4M constantly forgets the bottom half of the screen. Only after turning it once to portrait mode, the lower half is filled with content in landscape mode. Only to forget the lower half again during the next action.

Greeting
H.-E.

[cncb]

have some wishes / suggestions for improvement :-)

1) The Zone Off macro is empty by default.  You should be able to add an MCC command of 27001 with a parameter of 0 to shutdown the computer.
See https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Center_Core_Commands#System

2) There is limited editing of the current playlist in the file tap menu (Play/move next, Remove from list).  You can also edit a playlist in the library by tapping the top left button in the Library screen.

3) There is a shortcut to help with this.  A double-tap performs the last action.  So tap one file and select the menu item to add it to the playlist.  Then when you double-tap additional files they will be added to the playlist without showing the menu.

4) Sorry, I don't know about this one - I haven't seen it before.

[High-End]

1) The Zone Off macro is empty by default.  You should be able to add an MCC command of 27001 with a parameter of 0 to shutdown the computer.
See https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Center_Core_Commands#System

2) There is limited editing of the current playlist in the file tap menu (Play/move next, Remove from list).  You can also edit a playlist in the library by tapping the top left button in the Library screen.

3) There is a shortcut to help with this.  A double-tap performs the last action.  So tap one file and select the menu item to add it to the playlist.  Then when you double-tap additional files they will be added to the playlist without showing the menu.

4) Sorry, I don't know about this one - I haven't seen it before.

Thanks.
1: Sorry a noob question. I see the "Off script" and the "On scipt" buttons I also see "MC28.exe /MCC 27001,0" for shutdown and "MC28.exe /MCC 27001,3" for restart. But how do I bind button and script together...
;-)
2: will you enhance this "playing now" screen with a "real" editing feature? That kind: hit a edit button. rearrange, delete items. save the new list as the current "playing now" list?
3: This is a different approach. But by usable over several albums, a nice feature.

[cncb]

1: Sorry a noob question. I see the "Off script" and the "On scipt" buttons I also see "MC28.exe /MCC 27001,0" for shutdown and "MC28.exe /MCC 27001,3" for restart. But how do I bind button and script together...
;-)
2: will you enhance this "playing now" screen with a "real" editing feature? That kind: hit a edit button. rearrange, delete items. save the new list as the current "playing now" list?

1) In that same menu, select "Change zone settings".  Then, add a command to the "OFF Macro" of type Core Command (MCC), put 27001 and 0 in the first two fields, and Tap SAVE.  You can then test it on that screen and when satisfied tap SAVE at the top.

2) You can kind of do this now.  Tap a file in Playing Now, select Add (all) to Playlist, tap a Group header to create a new playlist, and then tap the newly created playlist to add the files.  Then you can go to the Library browser and select that playlist to edit.  I will consider trying to make this easier in the future.

[cncb]

v1.10 is now available:

[ALL]
- Upgrade ExoPlayer to 2.14.0
- Add ExoPlayer as audio player option and audio player selection to Settings
- Add audio decoding to video player which can avoid the need to convert video in many cases
- Add option to skip library levels with a single item
- Add external links support (direct links to videos in other apps)

[MOBILE]
- Rename downloaded files to avoid auto delete by system
- Add quick scrolling for file lists in file tap menu (beginning, middle, end)
- Check for assets after displaying file tap menu to avoid delay
- Enable embedded subtitle display and selection
- Remove Waveform from tags display

[AUTO]
- Use new tabs on home screen and add Settings tab
- Add option to use Grid display (instead of list) on browse screens
- Add Repeat toggle button in Now Playing controls
- Fix thumbnails not showing when connected to JRiver https and for downloaded files
- Fix MO taking over from other active music apps
- Add option for maximum number of browse items to display (avoids constant spinning circle based on amount of device memory)

[ATV]
- Add 3 playlists paths to Settings, first 25 items of each are displayed on the app Home screen
- Enable DTS-HD bitstream output
- Re-style buttons in file details to better see current selection
- Add Director and Actors display in video details screen
- Add Watched indicator check mark in browse grid and button to toggle Watched in details (uses Number Plays)
- Add auto-scrolling to long text in browse grid
- Add current selection text in browse grid (e.g. 2/10)
- Long press of Back button returns to app Home screen
- Press of Fast Forward/Rewind buttons pages down/up in browse grid
- Add Show Tags action and screen

[High-End]

1) In that same menu, select "Change zone settings".  Then, add a command to the "OFF Macro" of type Core Command (MCC), put 27001 and 0 in the first two fields, and Tap SAVE.  You can then test it on that screen and when satisfied tap SAVE at the top.

2) You can kind of do this now.  Tap a file in Playing Now, select Add (all) to Playlist, tap a Group header to create a new playlist, and then tap the newly created playlist to add the files.  Then you can go to the Library browser and select that playlist to edit.  I will consider trying to make this easier in the future.

1: Worked ;-)

2: hm.. It worked as described. But comfortable and smooth is something else.
It would be nice if the feature could be added, perhaps as I suggested / implemented within EOS.

Thank you

[Ekpen]

v1.10 is now available:

[ALL]
- Upgrade ExoPlayer to 2.14.0
- Add ExoPlayer as audio player option and audio player selection to Settings
- Add audio decoding to video player which can avoid the need to convert video in many cases
- Add option to skip library levels with a single item
- Add external links support (direct links to videos in other apps)

[MOBILE]
- Rename downloaded files to avoid auto delete by system
- Add quick scrolling for file lists in file tap menu (beginning, middle, end)
- Check for assets after displaying file tap menu to avoid delay
- Enable embedded subtitle display and selection
- Remove Waveform from tags display

[AUTO]
- Use new tabs on home screen and add Settings tab
- Add option to use Grid display (instead of list) on browse screens
- Add Repeat toggle button in Now Playing controls
- Fix thumbnails not showing when connected to JRiver https and for downloaded files
- Fix MO taking over from other active music apps
- Add option for maximum number of browse items to display (avoids constant spinning circle based on amount of device memory)

[ATV]
- Add 3 playlists paths to Settings, first 25 items of each are displayed on the app Home screen
- Enable DTS-HD bitstream output
- Re-style buttons in file details to better see current selection
- Add Director and Actors display in video details screen
- Add Watched indicator check mark in browse grid and button to toggle Watched in details (uses Number Plays)
- Add auto-scrolling to long text in browse grid
- Add current selection text in browse grid (e.g. 2/10)
- Long press of Back button returns to app Home screen
- Press of Fast Forward/Rewind buttons pages down/up in browse grid
- Add Show Tags action and screen

Thanks for the Exo update.
It works very well. I can now do everything within MO4media.
I will miss the vlc polishings.

right now, I am very satisfied.

George.

[Awesome Donkey]

Indeed, adding ExoPlayer finally addressed the issue a couple of my phones had playing back 24/48 and other "hi-res" content. It now just works, YAY!

There's only really two small things on "issues" list...

1) It's much appreciated to be able to quick scroll down the list now. However, I've found it's kinda hard to enable the quick scrolling when trying to catch and drag the scrollbar "handle". Is there a way of making this bigger or easier to "catch" so it can be used to quick scroll? JRemote2 actually had this issue too in the early days.

2) The displayed album art (from embedded album art in FLAC files) in now playing seems like it's lower quality or being compressed, as it appears to have compression artifacts or something like that in the displayed images in now playing. On some cover art images it doesn't appear crisp (as it should) or there's these weird compression artifact patterns. For reference JRemote2, Panel and Gizmo don't do this.

Otherwise, it's near perfect now! Thanks a lot for adding ExoPlayer as an option!

[cncb]

1) It's much appreciated to be able to quick scroll down the list now. However, I've found it's kinda hard to enable the quick scrolling when trying to catch and drag the scrollbar "handle". Is there a way of making this bigger or easier to "catch" so it can be used to quick scroll? JRemote2 actually had this issue too in the early days.

2) The displayed album art (from embedded album art in FLAC files) in now playing seems like it's lower quality or being compressed, as it appears to have compression artifacts or something like that in the displayed images in now playing. On some cover art images it doesn't appear crisp (as it should) or there's these weird compression artifact patterns. For reference JRemote2, Panel and Gizmo don't do this.

1) To be clear the "quick scrolling" I added was items to the end of the menu when you tap a file in the list that scroll the list to the beginning, middle, or end.  I didn't change manually scrolling at all.  I will look into if there is any way to make the scroll "handle" bigger.

2) I don't think I changed anything related to the Playing Now images but I will check.  This is the larger thumbnail in the main app, correct?

[Awesome Donkey]

2) I don't think I changed anything related to the Playing Now images but I will check.  This is the larger thumbnail in the main app, correct?

It's an 'issue' that I've noticed for a long time now, I just kept forgetting about reporting/asking about it.

Here, I'll show you. It happens with all displayed album art in the app but you can see it easier in album art in now playing that's solid and light in color, like this solid white represented by the Beatles' White Album here...



See that weird, dark checkerboard-ish pattern in the solid white color in the image of the now playing cover art? I can't tell if it's compression artifacts or if the image is being resampled or something not, but you can tell the overall image quality is lower (evidenced by the lack of sharpness the wording has) than the source album art image embedded in the FLAC file. Nonetheless...



Same file/album, in JRemote2 (also doesn't matter if Gizmo or Panel is used, same result), as you can see the image is crisp and clear with sharp text and no artifacts/checkerboard-ish pattern present. What I'm asking is, is there any way to display album art displayed in the app/now playing at full quality? Though I'd be interested to know why this occurs.

[Ekpen]

Hello:
I have noticed a minor issue in the Exo player
At times, it fails to load a dolby vision movie.
I have G.I. Joe rise of cobra and G.I Joe retaliation.
The cobra will not switch, but the retaliation switches very fast.
I have also noticed a few having difficulty.

In MO ,set up subtitle is not disabled, but during Exo playback, subtitle has to be selected every time.
Is there s way to enable sub title by default ?
Thanks.
George.

[cncb]

At times, it fails to load a dolby vision movie.

In MO ,set up subtitle is not disabled, but during Exo playback, subtitle has to be selected every time.
Is there s way to enable sub title by default ?

This would probably be either a bug in ExoPlayer or you generated the files in different ways such that it does not contain what ExoPlayer expects.

It only displays forced subtitles by default so you could modify the mkv to tag the subtitle track you want as forced.  Otherwise, once you select the subtitle track to display during playback in the app, it should remember the selection for the next playback.

[cncb]

2: hm.. It worked as described. But comfortable and smooth is something else.
It would be nice if the feature could be added, perhaps as I suggested / implemented within EOS.

So, you just want to edit the Playing Now list and have it replace the current Playing Now when done?

[Ekpen]

This would probably be either a bug in ExoPlayer or you generated the files in different ways such that it does not contain what ExoPlayer expects.

It only displays forced subtitles by default so you could modify the mkv to tag the subtitle track you want as forced.  Otherwise, once you select the subtitle track to display during playback in the app, it should remember the selection for the next playback.

Hello:
I ripped my dv titles with makemkv 1.15.1 and later re  ripped with 1.15.3 after Mike updated the code.
So my titles are ripped currently with the latest version.
I have installed a player called justplayer with a build in Exo similar to MO.
I tested by playing G.I Joe rise of cobra with Justplayer used as exxternal within MO. It detected and switched correctly.
Then I also tried Custom exoplayer released 2020 by Yuroscope. It failed with a message "device does not provide decoder for audio vnd/dts hd.
I do not know the version of Exoplayer that is embeded with Justplayer, but I can confirm it works.
Regarding the subtitles, within MO4media, subtitle enabled, I would think that configuration will carry through to the Exoplayer at play back time.
Thanks for the hard work.

George.

[cncb]

I ripped my dv titles with makemkv 1.15.1 and later re  ripped with 1.15.3 after Mike updated the code.
So my titles are ripped currently with the latest version.

Maybe it is a video or audio codec issue.  Do the ones that don't trigger DV have different video or audio than the ones that work?

[Ekpen]

Maybe it is a video or audio codec issue.  Do the ones that don't trigger DV have different video or audio than the ones that work?

The error code I reported shows that it is having
issues with audio.
But  what baffles me is JustPlayer had no issue detecting and triggering it.
I am also suspecting the code is not detecting the
DV flag or if it does triggering it is flawed.

George.

[cncb]

The error code I reported shows that it is having
issues with audio.

Try selecting a different audio track while playing (if available) to see if it helps.  You could also try disabling the "Decode audio" option in Settings. Note that MO doesn't do anything special for DV - ExoPlayer handles the playback.

[Ekpen]

Try selecting a different audio track while playing (if available) to see if it helps.  You could also try disabling the "Decode audio" option in Settings. Note that MO doesn't do anything special for DV - ExoPlayer handles the playback.

Hello:
I was not able to select a different audio, because the title itself does not load.
However within MO itself twice I have to toggle "unsupported audio" . Each time no picture, until I decided to unplug the HDMi cable from the tv and the soundbar(Sony).
Then I was able to make it give me video, but no sound.
Well, I then shut off the Nvidia shiled Pro, tv and Soundbar.
After restarting, I was able to load G.I Joe, Rise of cobra.
During this time, on/off restarting, The G.I Joe Retaliation had no problem loading and playing.
Well, It looks like Rise of cobra can load and play sound as of now.
As a result of this,   I can use the Sony Tv's remote to control the volume, and the Soundbar's remote can be used to contol the volume also. Before both remotes do not work in tandem.
So I am reporting  SUCCESS.
 But I do not know how long it will last.

Thanks.

George.

[deone]

I use MO4Media on my Android phone.
I'm having problems downloading albums to my phone: I go to an album, click on play button, and click on download.  It shows a "Download" toast towards the bottom of the screen briefly but no downloading happens; when I go offline it shows me nothing in my library.
I looked at the download directory on my phone and the album is not there.
Going to Gear -> Downloads shows "Storage being Internal shared storage" with 59G Free and nothing under downloads.

[cncb]

It should ask you to give the app permission to access media on your device before it attempts to download.  It will then show a download summary where you can start or cancel the download, so if you are not seeing that then the permissions are probably not set.  Go to Settings | Apps & notifications | select MO 4Media and make sure "Files and media" is allowed.

[Epithet]

Really enjoying MO 4media, particularly its intergration with Android Auto and Google Assistant. However, when I set Google Assistant's default music services to "Other Services" so as to ensure voice requests for music are directed to MO 4media, within a day Google Assistant has reset the default service to YouTube, which I have not installed and therefore requests for music fail until I reset the default music service. The option in Android settings to set MO 4 Media as the default music player is greyed out. Anyone worked out how to retain MO 4media as the default music service in Google Assistant? Any suggestins  much appreciated.

[cncb]

However, when I set Google Assistant's default music services to "Other Services" so as to ensure voice requests for music are directed to MO 4media, within a day Google Assistant has reset the default service to YouTube, which I have not installed and therefore requests for music fail until I reset the default music service.

This used to work before they added YouTube Music as the default player.  It is annoying and I tried to report it but got no response: https://support.google.com/androidauto/thread/87738525/music-service-setting-keeps-reverting-to-youtube-music

[Awesome Donkey]

Okay, here's another odd one. I have a "smartwatch" which is Bluetooth enabled with media controls, and when I press the <| previous button, in MO 4Media it plays the previous track instead of restarting the current track. It's worth noting that JRemote2 does function correctly with the <| previous button media control on my watch. Of course, the Previous (<|) button restarts current file option is enabled, but I suspect the option doesn't currently apply to anything like a Bluetooth device connected to and controlling the device?

[cncb]

Of course, the Previous (<|) button restarts current file option is enabled, but I suspect the option doesn't currently apply to anything like a Bluetooth device connected to and controlling the device?

Yes, that is correct.  How do you actually go to the previous file with the watch?

[Awesome Donkey]

Yes, that is correct.  How do you actually go to the previous file with the watch?

Double tap, so it's basically CD player style.

[cncb]

I am thinking of removing the current option and replacing it with going to the previous file when under some threshold.  That is, if the current position is less than 5 seconds, go to the previous track.  So, if you are playing a track the first tap of Previous will restart the track and the second tap will go to the previous track if you do it within 5 seconds?  Would this work?

[Awesome Donkey]

Yep, that would work fine.

[cncb]

v1.10.1 is now available:

- Add full editing of Playing Now playlist (tap 3-dot button)
- Use full image for main cover art display in Playing Now
- Enable scroll bar dragging for fast scrolling of long lists
- Press of Previous button restarts current track if current position is greater than 5 seconds. Remove double-tap Previous option.
- Offer annual subscription again and raise price of one-time purchase

[Ekpen]

Hello:
I thought we have some progress with this
new built.
Today, 1080P, uhd, dolby vision videos, all failed to load.
Luckily, I still have the custom exoplayer on my Nvidia shield Pro, each of the titles were loaded with no issues.
I have to reconfigure MO4 to use external player to be able to do this.
George.

[cncb]

Nothing in ExoPlayer has changed in the last build so check your settings.

[wmhess]

Hello

I'm using MO 4Media as a remote from android devices to control a Windows music server sending music to my stereo via dlna.

I have a smart playlist that is based on what has recently played.  Any time a tune is played, it should be dropping off of the playlist, but it isn't.  I can go back in a couple of hours and the list may be shuffled but the same songs are still showing up.  If I look at the smart list on the computer the songs appear to have been removed from the list, but they're still showing up on the android device.

For more information, I have 5 child smart lists.  1 star, not played in last 120 days, 4 star not played in the last 90 days, 3 star, 60 days, 2 star 30 days, and 1 star 4 days.  I then have a master smart list that combines the child lists and shuffles the list.  I play this master list.
Looking for a way to force a refresh if possible.

-Bill

[cncb]

When playing via DLNA, MC is responsible for the current playlist and the app just reflects that.  I don't think MC updates a Smartlist while you are playing it, so you would just have to play it again (from the Library which would clear Playing Now) for it to refresh the list.

[wmhess]

When playing via DLNA, MC is responsible for the current playlist and the app just reflects that.  I don't think MC updates a Smartlist while you are playing it, so you would just have to play it again (from the Library which would clear Playing Now) for it to refresh the list.

Thank you.  It appears you're correct.  I installed another android controller and had the same issue so MC is what common.  Thank you for your help!

[oie]

Hi,
I seem to have lost the Radio Paradise channels on the stream section?.
Thanks,
Oscar

[cncb]

I seem to have lost the Radio Paradise channels on the stream section?.

Still shows for me.  Make sure you are controlling an MC zone and not the device.

[oie]

Many thanks,  you were right 👍
Regards 
Oscar

[deone]

I am having a hard time with downloaded music.
I'm using Media Center 27 on a Mac and version 1.10.1 of MO 4Media.
If I go to a playlist and select download it starts download and frequently stops after downloading one or two songs.  Going to Settings->Downloads it may show 2/8 files or something like that.  Selecting "Update/repeat this download" usually works and shows 8/8.

Unfortunately, this is not the end of the problem.  If I go offline and play the playlist many songs are truncated...they will play part way and then stop and move on to the next song.  The display shows the correct song length, it is just that when the position gets to a particular point it just jumps to the next song.  This is 100% repeatable for the song.  I assume this means that the metadata is correct but the whole song file was not downloaded. 

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

[cncb]

What file types and are they being converted?  Sometimes it takes a while to download (especially if you are converting) so let it go on for several minutes and see if they all download.  You can just tap the Refresh "button" on the Downloads page to check.

[deone]

The file types are mp3 and while the original are at FLAC CD or higher quality.  I've waited literally overnight for a playlist of  hour of music so I don't think it is a matter of waiting.
I'm disabling conversion and checking if that helps.

[cncb]

I see that you had this problem before and clearing the Download Manager cache did not help (although you might want to try it again).  I wonder if it is something funky with downloading from the Mac server?

[deone]

I did clear the cache and that made no difference.
I turned off the conversions, deleted the incompletely downloaded playlist, and started again. This time it downloaded 3 songs and stopped (and made no progress for at least 30 minutes).  I haven't checked if these songs are complete or not.
If it was a mac issue (such as permissions) I would have expected it to not do it at all rather than do it partly.  Are there any logs that I can look at that may give me insight into what is interrupting the downloads?  I am assuming all of this is working fine for you?

[cncb]

I do not use Downloads very much, but it does work for me.  I just downloaded an album of 13 FLAC files converted to MP3 and all of them downloaded successfully.  Look at the Downloads in the Files app - it might say something there.  The MC logs might tell you something if you turn those on.  Sorry this is not working for you.

[Awesome Donkey]

Does the app have the Storage permission granted in the Android app info/settings for the app? I imagine if it hasn't been granted, issues like this can occur.

[lightsout]

Does bookmarking work for audio books?

[cncb]

Does bookmarking work for audio books?

Not currently but it is something I could add.

[Mastiff]

Hi! I downloaded the app yesterday and connected it to a Pi in my new electrical car, which has Android Auto. But I have a problem: How do I change audio from the phone to the Pi? I have the zones in MO 4Media when I have it connected to the Pi and not to Android Auto, but the whole point for me was to use the app exclusively as a remote control.

Also every move browsing the library on Android Auto seems to take about ten times as long as for a zone on the Pi, but I'm guessing my more than 175 K track library has something to do with that... Probably something that will be remedied when I use a zone on the Pi, not the phone as playback device.

[cncb]

But I have a problem: How do I change audio from the phone to the Pi? I have the zones in MO 4Media when I have it connected to the Pi and not to Android Auto, but the whole point for me was to use the app exclusively as a remote control.

You have the Pi hooked up to some AUX input on your car unit and want to play its audio while running Android Auto?  Android Auto is not really equipped to handle this scenario.  It is meant to play the audio from your phone and not control an external device.  Sorry, you would have to use the main app outside of Android Auto to play/control the Pi zone.

As to the browsing slowness in Android Auto, you can try to set the "Maximum number is browse items to display" to a lower number instead of "All" (Settings menu for MO inside AA.  If this makes it faster, you can then set up custom views with grouping to help.

[Mastiff]

Yeah, that's what my plan was. So the app is really no use for me if it can't do that.  I was hoping to be able to do the library stuff on the car's display (10.2 inch touch screen), but still get the playback done through an aux cable from the Pi. But I probably could do it this way too, if not for one thing:

When you're using it on Android Auto, how do you connect to the MC instrance? So far my only means is to create a wifi network on the Pi and connect to that with the phone, with the annoying side effect that I get no messenger or mail as long as it connected, and I can't do that because I need to get mail and messages from work. So the plan was to turn on wifi only for changing the music on the Pi and then turn it off again, so I get mail and messages.

Using the app on the phone screen is not an option, that will cost me 500 and a solid dent in my driver's lisence if the police sees it. It's not really a problem since the Mercedes will handle driving within the lines, but that doesn't help with Norwegian police. The Tesla self driving setup is illegal here.

Edit: Is this meant to connect to an MC instance on a home server, over cellular network? In that case it won't work beacause i have almost no data in my plan, I only use 4G to get mail and messages when I'm not home or at the cabin (which usually means that I'm driving between them...).

[cncb]

So the plan was to turn on wifi only for changing the music on the Pi and then turn it off again, so I get mail and messages.

You need to maintain the connection to the server (Pi) to control playback and get Playing Now updates, etc. so that will not really work if you want to control playback.  You might want to consider, if possible, leaving the Pi at home and connecting to it remotely through Android Auto (playing audio through the phone as normal).  Sorry it is not working out for you.