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mikolajek

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Album Artist tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« on: January 09, 2019, 03:14:41 pm »
While doing some periodical maintenance of my mp3s collection, I've realized that some tool I use has added another tag related to Album Artist. So now I have "Album Artist" (TPE2) and "AlbumArtist" (TXXX) tags sets for all the files I guess.

It won't harm them obviously, but I've noticed that some tools (e.g. dbPoweramp) tend to list both tag values / merge them, which ends up in the tag value read by JRiver as "Some Artist / Some Artist" :o

I understand JRiver holds both values with no problems and displays just one of them, I don't know which though. Can you advise here? Should I remove the other tag or just leave it there?
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 06:27:13 pm »
TPE2 is the official Album Artist tag.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 03:28:55 am »
In addition, MC adds both for the sake of compatibility with devices.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 03:46:47 am »
Quote from: Awesome Donkey on January 10, 2019, 03:28:55 am
MC adds both for the sake of compatibility with devices.
So it was MC itself that added this? :-\ I wasn't sure which tool was to blame...

Is there any option to disable creating that? I'd also love to disable adding the tool tags to the tracks.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 03:50:10 am »
Just remove one of the tags, like TXXX.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 03:51:52 am »
Quote from: Awesome Donkey on January 10, 2019, 03:50:10 am
Just remove one of the tags, like TXXX.
Thanks! I typically use Mp3tag for this. However I understand that once I process a file in MC again in any way - those tags will be back... So it would be nice to disable their creation permanently.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 03:57:58 am »
Then don't let MC process the file. Once I import a file and it runs audio analysis, it doesn't process the file again unless I make it.
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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 03:29:49 am »
Quote from: Awesome Donkey on January 10, 2019, 03:28:55 am
In addition, MC adds both for the sake of compatibility with devices.

Isn't a good enough reason to leave the tag in the file? Is it causing you issues?

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Re: Album Artis tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 03:32:40 am »
Quote from: Spike1000 on January 11, 2019, 03:29:49 am
Isn't a good enough reason to leave the tag in the file? Is it causing you issues?

As said earlier some tools display both values in a single Album Artist GUI field - so I see "Mr Artist / Mr Artist" as a value.
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Re: Album Artist tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 04:58:10 am »
I've only seen the double album artist field displayed with two file types, DSF and AIFF. I don't have any MP3s to test with, but it makes sense to have both available for compatibility with mobile devices.

In my case with DSF files, I just deleted the second (TXXX) album artist field and it was fine after that (and MC doesn't add it back, unless like I said I make it via Update Tags (from library)).
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Re: Album Artist tag - TPE2 or TXXX?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2021, 09:05:09 am »
Quote from: Awesome Donkey on January 11, 2019, 04:58:10 am
I've only seen the double album artist field displayed with two file types, DSF and AIFF. I don't have any MP3s to test with, but it makes sense to have both available for compatibility with mobile devices.

In my case with DSF files, I just deleted the second (TXXX) album artist field and it was fine after that (and MC doesn't add it back, unless like I said I make it via Update Tags (from library)).

Awesome Donkey how did you delete the TXXX album artist field? How can we show it in MC as a custom tag?
Why is Media Center adding the TXXX Album Artist when TPE2 Album Artist is already present for MP3  and DSF files?  This causes issues in other softwares and will be problematic every time a tag is changed in MC for these types of files (ie adding lyrics)

thx!
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