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MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« on: February 13, 2019, 10:36:51 am »

I want to watch something on channel 410 FS2, but MC doesn't see that channel when I do a channel scan! In fact MC scan only see 502 channels out of 549 that HDHRP sees. Where's the other 47 channels?

What's wrong?
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 05:32:44 pm »

Can anyone tell me if the channels that MC sees during scanning depends on the guide data or is it vice-versa (MC scans the hardware tuner for all channels, then downloads data)?

As a test, I just setup my laptop with MC's default guide provider (not the one I use on my Server), and it too only sees 502 channels.

BTW - I'm also able to watch channel 410 FS2 on my comcast provided DVR, and the channel programming is listed on TitanTv and OnTvTonight website guides.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2019, 07:25:47 pm »

It depends on which type of channels you try to scan for.  For CableCARD channels, it depends on the guide data.  For OTA channels, it does not.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 08:25:55 pm »

Ok, well it's comcast cable. Seems quite a coincidence that the MC default guide provider and SD both see the exact same 502 channels, but when I go to the HDHRP IP web interface and run a scan, it finds 549 channels.

I've opened a ticket with SD for channel 410 FS2. As for the other 46 missing channels, guess if I get time I will make a list....
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 09:15:46 am »

SiliconDust provides "Premium Channels".  I think you have to subscribe to watch them.  I wonder if the extra channels are from them.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 09:35:50 am »

Sorry when I am typing SD, I am referring to guide provider Schedules Direct. So Schedules Direct guide pulls 502 channels (on MC Server), MC default provider pulls 502 channels (on laptop), the HDHRP web IP interface scan pulls 549 channels (including CH410 FS2).

No the 549 channels in the HDHRP web IP interface scan go up to 999, those are NOT the extra "Premium" Silicon Dust channels. And those Premium channels require a different model SD tuner that I do not have.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 10:08:46 am »

No the 549 channels in the HDHRP web IP interface scan go up to 999...

Slight modification: The HDHRP web IP interface shows how Comcast duplicates it's channel lineup on channels 1003 - 1879. These are NOT the Silicon Dust Premium channels, they are comcast channels. Schedules Direct and MC's default guide information only goes up to channel 999 (and both are missing CH410 FS2).

Here is a dump of HDHRP channel scan:
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HDHomeRun PRIME
Channel Lineup
Channels (549)

2 HSN
3 KCRA
4 KQCA
5 KUVS
6 KVIE
8 KTXL
9 KQED
10 KXTV
11 KSPX
12 KMAX
13 KOVR
14 BLOOM
15 KBSV
16 CSPAN2
17 MSNBC
19 FNC
20 CNN
21 HLN
22 WEATH
23 KTFK
25 KCSOLP
26 ACCES
27 TRUTVP
28 EP
29 FXP
30 TVLANDP
31 COMEDYP
32 ESPN
33 ESPN2
34 NBCSCA
35 NBCSN
36 GOLF
37 NBSBAP2
38 TBSP
39 TNTP
40 USAP
41 GALAP
42 UNVSOP
43 BETP
44 MTVP
46 VH1P
48 OXYGENP
49 LIFEP
50 GSNP
51 FREFRMP
52 TOONP
53 NIKP
54 DISNP
55 TLCP
56 DSCP
57 APLP
58 HGTVP
59 FOODP
60 HISTP
61 TRAVP
62 AMCP
63 BRAVOP
64 SYFYP
65 AETVP
66 PARP
67 HALLP
70 QVC
85 HSN2
86 SONLIFE
95 NASA
96 KICU
97 GA
100 LACCESS
102 NBSPBA2
103 DELTV
104 SPOFCA
106 CSPAN
108 CALCHAN
109 CSPAN2
110 CSPAN3
111 POPP
116 JTV
119 UKIDSP
120 NICJRP
121 DFC
122 DXDP
123 DJCHP
124 NIK
125 BABY1C
126 NIKTON
130 FBN
135 MTV2P
138 RVLT
139 ELREY
146 LOGOP
149 MPLEX
150 REELZ
159 NGWILD
160 JTV
161 GSNP
162 BBCAP
164 EVINE
165 OXYGENP
166 NEWSYSD
167 BBCWDNA
180 NFLNET
186 HALLP
201 DEST
203 COOK
204 DIY
215 TNCK
220 OWNPA
222 DLC
223 INSP
230 TBN
232 BYUTV
233 EWTN
234 DYSTR
270 OVATION
271 ID
272 SCIENCE
273 NGCP
274 AHC
275 FYIP
276 VICEP
294 AFROSD
297 AFRCA
332 TVK1
334 MNET
367 FILIP
368 MYX
369 GMAPNY
371 KXTVDT2
374 KCRADT2
376 KQCADT2
377 KQCADT3
380 KOVRCAB
382 KTXLDT2
383 KTXLDT3
386 KVIEDT2
387 KVIEDT4
388 KVIEDT3
392 KXTVDT4
397 KSAOLD
398 CRSSSAC
401 FXXP
402 ESPNEWS
405 SPRTMAN
406 OUTD
[b]408 FS1[/b]
409 TVGSD
410 FS2
411 TENNIS
412 MLBN
416 NBATV
417 NFLNET
418 CBSSN
419 NHLNET
420 ESPNU
432 SEC
434 PAC12
439 NBATV
471 CMTMUS
472 NMZK
473 MTVCLAP
474 BHER
475 BETJ
477 FM
479 LATV
480 ASPRE
482 UP
483 TVONE
484 GAC
486 IMPCNET
500 HMMP
501 TCM
502 WEP
503 IFC
504 LIFMVP
505 SUNDANP
506 FXM
513 INDIE
514 RETRO
516 STZENFS
518 STZENCP
520 STZECLP
522 STZENSP
524 STZEWPS
528 STZENBP
530 STZENAP
534 STARZP
536 STZEP
537 STZIBP
538 STZCIP
539 STZKP
540 STZCP
550 HBO
551 HBOP
553 HBO2P
555 HBOSIGP
557 HBOFP
558 HBOLAT
559 HBOCP
560 HBOZP
561 MAXP
562 MAX
565 MOMAXP
566 ACMAXP
567 THMAXP
576 SHOWP
578 SHO2P
580 SHOCSEP
582 SHOWXP
584 FAMZP
586 FLIXP
591 TMCP
593 TMCXP
599 XFLTC
606 TR3SP
609 DXDP
618 UDN
620 KSAOLD
636 FM
659 EWTNES
660 PRIMO
661 KIDSCT
680 UNVSPHD
703 KCRADT
704 KQCADT
705 KUVSDT
706 KVIEDT
708 KTXLDT
709 KSPXDT
710 KXTVDT
711 KTFKDT
712 KMAXDT
713 KOVRDT
714 KCSOLD
718 HSNHD
719 QVCHD
720 NBSBD2
721 NBSCAHD
722 GOLFHD
723 NBCSNHD
724 ESPNHD
725 ESPN2HD
726 ESPNWHD
727 NBATVHD
728 NHLHD
729 MLBHD
730 NFLHD
731 FS1HD
732 CBSSNHD
733 BRAVOHP
734 AETVHDP
735 TBSHDP
736 SYFYHDP
737 TNTPHD
738 USAHDP
739 OLYHD
740 TVONEHD
741 FXPHD
743 PARPHD
745 CCHDP
746 HGTVPHD
747 FOODPHD
748 TRUTVHP
750 DSCHDP
751 APLHDP
752 TLCPHD
753 EPHD
754 MTHD
755 TRAVHD
756 SCIHD
757 NGCPHD
758 HSTRYHP
759 CNNHD
760 FNCHD
761 FBNHD
762 CNBCHD
763 DXDHDP
764 BLOOMHD
766 TOONPHD
767 NIKPHD
768 FRFMHDP
769 DISNHDP
770 UKIDSPH
771 DESTHD
772 FYIPHD
773 OXYGNHP
774 HLNHD
776 WEATHHD
777 BETHDP
780 NBSBANW
781 VH1PHD
782 MTVPHD
783 MTVLIVE
784 OUTHD
786 TENISHD
787 MNBCHD
788 ESPNUHD
789 TCMHD
790 IFCHD
791 WEHD
793 HALLHD
794 HMMHD
795 LIFEPHD
796 LMVPHD
798 AMCPHD
801 HBOHDP
803 FXXPHD
804 IDHD
805 VICEPHD
806 NGWIHD
808 HBOLPHD
809 STZENHD
810 BBCAPH
813 DFCHD
814 UPHD
815 GALAHD
816 STZHDP
818 UDNHD
819 SPOFCAH
820 OWNHD
822 GSNPHD
823 PAC12HD
824 SECH
825 SHOWHDP
838 MAXHDP
847 TMCHDP
901 MC01
904 MC04
906 MC06
909 MC09
912 MC12
915 MC15
917 MC17
920 MC20
923 MC23
926 MC26
929 MC29
931 MC31
934 MC34
937 MC37
940 MC40
943 MC43
946 MC46
949 MC49
1003 KCRADT
1006 KVIEDT
1008 QVCHD
1009 KQED
1010 KXTVDT
1011 HSNHD
1013 KOVRDT
1019 KUVSDT
1021 JTV
1023 KBSV
1024 KTFKDT
1025 KCSOLD
1027 EVINE
1029 KSPXDT
1030 JTV
1031 KMAXDT
1036 KICU
1040 KTXLDT
1044 HSN2
1058 KQCADT
1059 JTV
1068 LACCESS
1080 GA
1084 ACCES
1096 SONLIFE
1098 DELTV
1102 WEATHHD
1110 FNCHD
1111 CNNHD
1112 HLNHD
1113 MNBCHD
1114 NEWSYSD
1117 BBCWDNA
1121 CNBCHD
1122 BLOOMHD
1123 FBNHD
1126 CALCHAN
1127 SPOFCAH
1128 CSPAN
1129 CSPAN2
1130 CSPAN3
1154 KVIEDT2
1155 KVIEDT4
1156 KVIEDT3
1158 KCRADT2
1162 KOVRCAB
1166 KQCADT3
1167 KQCADT2
1170 KTXLDT2
1171 KTXLDT3
1174 KXTVDT2
1175 KXTVDT4
1182 KSAOLD
1205 ESPNHD
1206 ESPN2HD
1207 NBCSNHD
1208 FS1HD
1209 FS2
1210 ESPNWHD
1215 NFLHD
1217 NHLHD
1218 NBATVHD
1219 MLBHD
1222 OLYHD
1223 GOLFHD
1224 TENISHD
1229 UDNHD
1232 UNVSPHD
1236 OUTHD
1237 SPRTMAN
1243 MTHD
1246 TVGSD
1251 NBSBD2
1252 NBSCAHD
1255 NBSBANW
1301 ESPNUHD
1303 CBSSNHD
1321 SECH
1329 PAC12HD
1402 AETVHDP
1403 USAHDP
1404 TNTPHD
1405 AMCPHD
1409 FXPHD
1410 FXXPHD
1411 SYFYHDP
1412 PARPHD
1417 ELREY
1418 BBCAPH
1425 GSNPHD
1426 TVLANDP
1427 POPP
1428 WEHD
1429 REELZ
1430 TRUTVHP
1434 TBSHDP
1435 CCHDP
1436 VICEPHD
1438 IFCHD
1439 LOGOP
1440 SUNDANP
1444 IDHD
1449 DSCHDP
1450 TLCPHD
1451 SCIHD
1455 LIFEPHD
1456 LMVPHD
1457 UPHD
1458 HALLHD
1459 HMMHD
1462 OVATION
1463 BRAVOHP
1464 OWNHD
1465 OXYGNHP
1466 EPHD
1471 APLHDP
1472 NGWIHD
1473 NGCPHD
1478 HSTRYHP
1480 AHC
1484 FOODPHD
1485 COOK
1486 FYIPHD
1487 DESTHD
1488 TRAVHD
1492 HGTVPHD
1493 DIY
1497 DLC
1606 MTVPHD
1607 VH1PHD
1612 MTVLIVE
1614 MTVCLAP
1615 NMZK
1619 CMTMUS
1620 GAC
1623 AFROSD
1625 BETHDP
1626 TVONEHD
1627 ASPRE
1628 BHER
1629 AFRCA
1633 BETJ
1637 RVLT
1638 FM
1639 MTV2P
1655 INSP
1657 DYSTR
1661 TBN
1668 EWTN
1673 BYUTV
1682 IMPCNET
1701 DJCHP
1702 NICJRP
1707 UKIDSPH
1709 BABY1C
1714 DFCHD
1715 DISNHDP
1716 DXDHDP
1721 PRIMO
1722 KIDSCT
1727 NIKTON
1728 NIKPHD
1734 TOONPHD
1740 TNCK
1741 STZENFS
1742 FRFMHDP
1755 TCMHD
1756 RETRO
1757 MPLEX
1758 INDIE
1766 FXM
1772 FLIXP
1773 STZENHD
1774 STZENCP
1776 STZENAP
1778 STZENBP
1780 STZECLP
1783 STZENSP
1785 STZEWPS
1802 HBO
1803 HBOHDP
1805 HBO2P
1807 HBOSIGP
1809 HBOFP
1811 HBOCP
1813 HBOZP
1814 HBOLAT
1815 HBOLPHD
1820 MAX
1821 MAXHDP
1823 MOMAXP
1825 ACMAXP
1827 THMAXP
1841 SHOWHDP
1843 SHO2P
1847 SHOCSEP
1849 SHOWXP
1853 FAMZP
1861 TMCHDP
1863 TMCXP
1869 STZHDP
1871 STZEP
1873 STZIBP
1875 STZKP
1877 STZCIP
1879 STZCP

I don't know how do do a dump of MC's channel list, but it does not include anything over 999 or channel 410.

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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 02:05:57 pm »

Slight modification: The HDHRP web IP interface shows how Comcast duplicates it's channel lineup on channels 1003 - 1879. These are NOT the Silicon Dust Premium channels, they are comcast channels. Schedules Direct and MC's default guide information only goes up to channel 999 (and both are missing CH410 FS2).


I am aware of the channels above 999.

PercData does include those Comcast duplicates.

MC default provider is Microsoft by way of mc2xml.  Did you use SD in mc2xml (your own donor version) or SD directly somehow?

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I don't know how do do a dump of MC's channel list, but it does not include anything over 999 or channel 410.

That means mc2xml does not include those channels.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2019, 02:19:43 pm »

Thanks, I have contacted Schedules Direct regarding channel 410 and the upper duplicate channels. They are looking into it.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2019, 02:34:32 pm »

It appears that FS2 is new in comcast lineup.  The guide providers probably have not caught up with it.  I do not get FS2 (via PercData) either, but the channel is there (incidentally it is channel 409 for me, which is still reported to be "Outside Television" by PercData).
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2019, 07:09:03 pm »

It appears that FS2 is new in comcast lineup.  The guide providers probably have not caught up with it.  I do not get FS2 (via PercData) either, but the channel is there (incidentally it is channel 409 for me, which is still reported to be "Outside Television" by PercData).

Curious if you are getting the new channel 837 EPIXHDP? Is it DRM'ed? It's getting guide data from Schedules Direct but, the HDHRP scan (and MC scan) does NOT pick it up at all. The channel shows up on my Comcast DVR guide, but get subscription error when I try to watch it. Seems like Comcast has not added it to cable card system yet, so I can't see if it's DRM.

https://forums.xfinity.com/t5/Channels-and-Programming/Is-EPIX-HD-ch837-flagged-copy-protect/m-p/3183333/highlight/false#M99384


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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2019, 09:04:56 am »

I found Epix HD on two channels, but I can not play them because I do not have subscription to the channels, nor can I test whether they DRM protection.
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Re: MC tuner scan gets 47 less channels than HDHRP scan
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2019, 08:57:47 am »

Schedules Direct has updated my channel lineup. I now get FS2 CH410 and all the duplicate 1000 series comcast channels in MC.
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