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DSD native via HDMI
kr4:
--- Quote from: eddyshere on December 02, 2019, 09:42:01 am ---It's not quite "ethernet" in an IP sense but more a i2s link which happens to be over RJ45 cable. Denon used that under their specific "denon link". It allowed DSD bitstreaming between their universal bluray player and AV receiver with very low jitter
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That's proprietary but one can stream DSD over LAN via RJ45 cable or WiFi with the appropriate devices. I've done that using MC with exaSound playpoint devices as well as Oppo players (used as DAC or links).
jctcom:
--- Quote from: thecrow on October 26, 2019, 06:20:48 am ---
I stream DSD to both devices because each has its own advantages, the 7012 supports gapless DLNA but not multichannel and the Oppo supports multichannel but not gapless.
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I know this thread is quite old but I am hoping you will still receive a notification and can reply. I am in a similar situation with a Yamaha RX-A2A that supports DSD over DLNA and has been amazing in sound quality but does not do Multi-Channel.
I also have a Sony UBP-X800M2. It seems to accept the Multi-Channel or the stereo DSF files over DLNA but I noticed that it is converting the DSD files to 24-Bit / 192kHz before sending to the receiver (As reported by the receiver).
In this instance it seems I am better off to just let JRiver convert to PCM and send direct to the receiver via HDMI for my Multi-Channel stuff (As I have been doing up to now).
So does your OPPO send the data through as DSD? Or is it converting it to PCM?
Thanks. Hopefully you receive this.
Carl.
thecrow:
My Oppo keeps the signal as DSD and passes it through HDMI to my AV amp (now an Arcam AVR10) as DSD.
Maybe there are settings in your Sony to tell it how to output DSD signals?
jctcom:
Unfortunately there are no settings at all regarding accepting audio via network. It does output as DSD when I put in an actual SACD disc. The DSD over DLNA options in these devices are very poorly documented. I didn't even realize my Yamaha did it till I tried it. Took me forever to get it set up to where it is now and works pretty good. JRiver seems to lose the connection to it periodically though and unlike when outputting via HDMI when JRiver loses the connection the playlist get's wiped.
I am not sure where the fault is in losing the connection except to say that if I am using the Yamaha to pull the music directly from my NAS (Where the music is stored) it never loses the connection that way. The problem is the Yamaha Musiccast app really sucks in terms of creating or maintaining playlists, And of course I can't rate songs or manipulate the music in any way even close to how I do in JRiver.
I am surprised there don't seem to be any DAC's (USB or DLNA) that seem to be able to input DSD and the output via HDMI especially in Multi-Channel.
Thanks for your reply though.
Carl
davewave:
I have run into two theories about why we can't just stream DSD from our PCs to our DSD capable receivers. One theory is that AMD and Nvidia has decided not to implement this feature for various reasons.
The second theory is that streaming DSD somehow violates copyright laws and large fees would have to be paid to enable that feature. That is why we can stream DSD files to an Oppo 103 for example, and it can feed the DSD signals over HDMI. Because they already paid their HDMI fees (etc.).
Somehow the second theory may also partially explain the first theory. AMD and Nvidia don't want to pay certain kinds of HDMI fees perhaps.
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