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Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« on: July 30, 2019, 04:08:13 pm »

I love my DVD and BD movie collection but several have a few objectionable scenes that I'd much rather not see or hear.   
     Usually, they are brief but horrid and often unnecessary scenes of bloody violence, fatal falls, loud explosions etc.

I'd rather not have to fumble with the remote to F.FWD past them. So I thought of decrypting the discs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedFox
snipping out the offending scenes https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/ and burning the edited footage
to DVD or BD-RE.

Then I remembered that VLC media player had a somewhat primitive feature like this that I used when playing a flv file.

Does JRiver have something like this for when playing a DVD or BD?

If yes, can JRiver store such memory presets for 20 or so movie DVD and BD titles?

If n/a, it would be great if these programmable features were added.


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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 05:11:04 pm »

Particles might be able to solve that.

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Particles
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 05:59:56 pm »

A word of caution about editing to remove things like this.  With whatever method you choose, you are probably going to have to see each sequence a lot of times as you try to get the edit correct.  Whether that's actually removing the video, or setting times to start and stop video, you are probably going to have to do several trials per scene in order to get it right.

This means that you are watching the "bad stuff" over and over and over.  Which is the opposite of what you want.  What you'd really want is for another person to do this for you so you never have to see this objectionable material. 

In my opinion, doing this exercise yourself will give you the opposite of what you want.   

Brian.
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2019, 07:50:51 pm »

I'm with Brian.

Just press the right arrow on your keyboard or remote control, and MC will jump forward 30 seconds (by default - configurable). The right arrow is much easier to find than the F.FWD button.
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2019, 09:58:10 pm »

If you rip the videos in MKV format using MakeMKV, mkvtoolixgui makes it very easy, using its multiplexing function, to strip sections out of a movie by timecode.  This is done without transcoding, so there is no loss of audio or video quality.

Good luck...
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2019, 02:41:42 am »

Yaobing will know, but doesn't MC already support EDL.TXT (Edit Decision List) files from Comskip?  If so they may work on other media types and this is exactly what they are designed to do.  A sidecar file that says ... skip this bit of video.
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2019, 04:46:13 pm »

Particles might be able to solve that. https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Particles
Thanks but that looks hard for me to do. Besides it looks like after decrypting the BD or DVD (with Any DVD HD or the like) I'd have to then break down the entire movie into numerous "particle" files and program (?) MC to play only the selected scenes I want and in the original sequence?

But if yes would this require having to save each of those particle files by either burning those files onto a BD-RE or saving them to a server?

On the other hand, IF particle files are not actual Vob (DVD) or m2ts (BD) audio/video files, but instead some kind of small index files that get stored on your desktop's system drive (?) for MC to have rapid access to, then do you just program MC to play the select particles files corresponding to the m2ts files on the disc, so only those selected files are played directly off the BD movie disc?

But if so what if this horrific but very short scene that I want to MC to skip over (where Keir Dullea kills the fox in "The Fox") is only a tiny part of an m2ts files with lots of content that I want to see? How can I use particle files to effectively snip out ~45 seconds and still play the rest of the m2ts file where it resides on the BD disc?
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2019, 04:57:33 pm »

You'll probably need to try it, but particles are markers of time periods in any file.  You can play them as if they were separate files, but they aren't.
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Re: Programmable skipping of DVD/BD movie scenes?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2019, 04:32:47 pm »

If you rip the videos in MKV format using MakeMKV, mkvtoolixgui makes it very easy, using its multiplexing function, to strip sections out of a movie by timecode.  This is done without transcoding, so there is no loss of audio or video quality. Good luck...
Unlike audio restoration https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx.html , movie editing is not a chore that I would really enjoy doing, especially because you then have to store the huge edited movie files ripped from the original disc somewhere elsewhere.

In any case, I just realized that I don't want to delete scenes-which can be important chunks of the movie that I certainly want to view-but rather certain "slices" of scenes, or "frames", which I don't want to see. So the frames move along as shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNG04nF0l2o and here
https://filmora.wondershare.com/video-editing-tips/how-to-extract-frames-from-video.html

So since the offending frames apparently cannot be skipped over while playing the original disc, the whole movie has to be ripped, the nasty frames deleted and the rest of the movie stored intact as file on a server or burned to a DVD-RW or BD-RE.

If I want to store the edited movie on a burned disc and in the complete original vob or m2ts video and DTS-HD MA formats (no transcoding) would using Vegas Pro be the best way to do that?
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-pro/

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