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Dennis in FL

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Grouping Classical Music Movements
« on: September 21, 2020, 06:17:26 am »

I would love an option in Stacks to define the order.  The default takes the largest file as top of the stack.   I'd like to stack them in order of track number.    I'd like to group classical music movements into one title.   And not see the details in a playlist.   Or maybe a new command to deal with classical music.    Something like a details on/off switch for album display.   

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RoderickGI

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Re: Grouping Classical Music Movements
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2020, 05:08:46 pm »

I would love an option in Stacks to define the order.

Stacks > Advanced > Autostack by Artist, Album, Track # and Name

That should work if all Tracks have the same Artist and Album. Otherwise, add your voice to the request for a Wizard. Although I guess you just did.  ;D

Some discussion: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125014.msg865739.html#msg865739
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Dennis in FL

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Re: Grouping Classical Music Movements
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2020, 06:06:34 am »

Stacks > Advanced > Autostack by Artist, Album, Track # and Name

That should work if all Tracks have the same Artist and Album. Otherwise, add your voice to the request for a Wizard. Although I guess you just did.  ;D

Some discussion: https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125014.msg865739.html#msg865739

That worked if I selected all files and left clicked on the top one.   I tried it about a dozen times and once it didn't work (put the bottom on top).   I repeated and it worked the next time.

Exactly what I wanted.   Almost

If I have the following album

Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18

and tracks:

1. Moderato
2. Adagio sostenut
3. Allegro scherza

And I stack them and send to a playlist....it will show as "
1. Moderato"

So I add Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18
to the top of the stack and it shows as

Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18 1. Moderato

which is a lot better than showing the individual tracts but I'd rather have simply

Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 18



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Re: Grouping Classical Music Movements
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2020, 12:23:54 pm »

Dennis,

I know your question was ostensibly about stacks, but at the core of it was how to best deal with the multi-movement compositions of classical music. A stack is not the best way, I don't think.

MC does not have good built in support for classical music in this regard.  But there are a couple of things you can do.

One is to use linked tracks. This suffices for ensuring all movements of a work play together but that's about it.

The other is to extend MC for classical music by creating a user-defined Composition field. The Composition then becomes the object by which you can view and play classical music.  This works well, with certain limitations.

I have previously provided information on this approach, so I'd suggest you take a look. You can find some helpful info here:
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=122114.0
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,125382.0.html

I've suggested in the past that MC be enhanced with built in support for classical compositions, but that was not happened. Hopefully some day.

Good luck...
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Dennis in FL

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Re: Grouping Classical Music Movements
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2020, 05:19:19 am »

Thanks.

I was looking at what iTunes/Apple did - ---- something similar with "work"

https://www.macworld.com/article/3121662/how-to-better-organize-classical-music-in-itunes.html

But, I like composition better.  I'll take a look at your links

I was having some success with stacks, although I'm not sure the stack is in the correct order.   At times, the top of the stack is the 3rd movement.  Then I have to "set to top" and I'm left wondering what the resulting order is.   Why doesn't it just sort by track number??

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Re: Grouping Classical Music Movements
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2020, 07:28:30 am »

I set up custom tags for Composition and Movement

I used Musichi tagger to do the grunt work of populating Tags , the Text Processor is really good. The alternative is SongKong which reads MusicBrainz

I set up 2 views

Composer> Genre > Sub Genre > Artist

The first with a rule for a top 30 composers, the second with all composers

I use it in Pane view or as a view in JRemote

Works for me . 3 or 4 taps to a Composition then pick an Artist
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