Topic: My music crackles after converting it to another format ! (Read 1574 times)

josh333 · « **on:** November 09, 2020, 05:42:01 pm »

Good evening everyone, I have a problem with my system. I am able to listen to my files which I converted previously to DSD, I like to feel that the file cannot be changed in any way in its listening, and the ones I convert now crackle a bit at the beginning , not dramatically, but it's unpleasant when I consider that there is nearly $ 5,000 Canadian in the system I have now. I am open to your solution and also if you are aware of the problem. Thank you !

josh333 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 09, 2020, 05:58:13 pm »

CPU Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1270 v3 @ 3.50GHz
Asus B85M-E motherboard
Ram installed Corsair vangeance LP 32,0 Go
AMD Radeon RX 5600XT
SSD Crucial CT1000BX500SSD1 1TB
PNY CS1311 960GB
Sound Card EVGA Nu Audio

josh333 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:02:15 pm »

And all this with the latest drivers available and the latest version of Windows the 20H2 with the latest motherboard bios from 2018

JimH · « **Reply #3 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:03:11 pm »

Are the DSD files the ones you're having trouble with?

Did you rip them from SACD discs? There is a known problem with that. Try a search on Google.

josh333 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:11:39 pm »

Good evening. No. Quite conventional CDs bought online. It's just that I had to re-download them, so converted them back to DSD because there is some one that I wanted!

josh333 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:14:43 pm »

It does not make a lot of music in DSD I like that the file is in no way editable while listening so ...

josh333 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:25:01 pm »

And also music that sounds good before conversion.

JimH · « **Reply #7 on:** November 09, 2020, 06:46:37 pm »

So you bought an ordinary CD, but you downloaded something else.

Then you converted the files from the CD? Or the downloaded files?

josh333 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 09, 2020, 07:10:03 pm »

Both cd ripper and download cd buy on musicme!

josh333 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 09, 2020, 07:13:14 pm »

I watch carefully because sometimes it is poorly translated

JimH · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2020, 07:58:06 pm »

Try ripping the CD to FLAC with MC. Does that work?

josh333 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2020, 01:21:19 am »

It is less worse than converting it to wave to put it in dsd but there are still crackles. We'll watch it tomorrow A +

josh333 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2020, 11:23:12 am »

I have a Fiio Q1 Mark II dac in troubleshooting is it relevant to try with it as a source instead of my nu audio trying to convert my files ?

josh333 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2020, 04:20:10 pm »

Good evening. sorry to have been so long everything works fine with aimp converter in terms of converting it to 384khz to pcm but hey that's not what I want

and as for my fiio Q1 Mark II also for everything except DSD and only JRiver I have that can convert to DSD So I'm out of my mind there. Thanks!

Awesome Donkey · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2020, 03:36:42 am »

If you're doing any sort of conversion that involves DSD you're going to encounter this issue unfortunately.

The only way around it is to avoid converting PCM to DSD or DSD to PCM, and using DSD bitstreaming to listen to actual DSD files (that haven't been converted). If you convert PCM to DSD you'll encounter this. If you convert DSD to PCM you'll also encounter this. Even DSD to DSD conversions because they have a PCM conversion step in the middle will also encounter this.

josh333 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2020, 02:26:10 pm »

Ok, and do you have any idea when the converter is going to be fixed because normally every album that I download or rip I convert to DSD I like the sound better and there is no way to modify the sound and know that all my playlist are all converted to dsd, the format is more direct than PCM, thanks!

wer · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2020, 02:30:31 pm »

If you think the converted files sound better...

You could just have MC output in DSD format at playback time, rather than converting all the files. DSP Studio:Output Format does this.

josh333 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2020, 02:41:37 pm »

And you can tell me why it used to work and that now, as if by magic, we can't!

josh333 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2020, 02:44:57 pm »

I would have to test on my macbook pro the solution may be there

JimH · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2020, 02:58:06 pm »

Quote from: josh333 on November 13, 2020, 02:41:37 pm

And you can tell me why it used to work and that now, as if by magic, we can't!

Something changed.

The DAC?

josh333 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 14, 2020, 11:23:20 am »

I didn't test my Fiio Q1 Mark II dac on my Macbook Pro I should do it today!

josh333 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 14, 2020, 12:24:35 pm »

Hello, same result with my Fiio Q1 Mark II dac on my macbook pro, you just have to put the converter that you had with JRiver 26 back, right? Because before version 27 the converter had no problem converting PCM files to DSD. Thank you and good day !

josh333 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 14, 2020, 07:18:01 pm »

I found the solution I downloaded a converter, ez cd audio converter and I can finally listen to the last audio files that I bought in dsd!

josh333 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 14, 2020, 07:20:31 pm »

But it's still unfortunate that I have to buy other software while JRiver is out doing it.

josh333 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2020, 09:48:45 pm »

I have proof that your converter is not working as it should, what are you going to do now ?

josh333 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 20, 2020, 11:34:08 am »

Good evening, I have been using this software for at least 5 years by converting my audio files to dsd128. Please give me at least an answer. Thank you !

DJLegba · « **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2020, 04:44:44 pm »

I don't normally convert to DSD, but I tried it just now and confirmed that the converted file plays but pops regularly. I do have some DSD material that I bought as downloads, and these play fine. Used version 27.0.26, 64-bit.

I did not try converting with MC 26, but if the OP is reporting problems with 27 that he didn't see with previous versions, I do think it's worth looking at and commenting on.

Matt · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2020, 08:58:22 pm »

Are you converting 44.1 content or another sample rate? Thanks.

DJLegba · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2020, 09:01:44 pm »

Quote from: Matt on November 21, 2020, 08:58:22 pm

Are you converting 44.1 content or another sample rate? Thanks.

Here's what I've tried:
24/48 PCM: Bad result
16/44 PCM: Conversion works fine
24/44 PCM: Conversion works fine
24/96 PCM: Bad result

dtc · « **Reply #29 on:** November 22, 2020, 07:48:49 am »

PCM to DSD conversion was changed in MC 26.0.85. No sure if that may have caused the problems.

26.0.85 (5/27/2020)

9. Changed: Use higher quality resampling for DSD from PCM playback.

Matt · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2020, 09:12:49 am »

Thanks for the 48k tip. I can reproduce it. I'll investigate soon. Thanks again.

josh333 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2020, 03:11:19 pm »

Good evening, unfortunately it's like playing the lottery it works sometimes I even converted native dsd files to converted CDs from other drive, ripper CDs and thank you again!

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