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FEATURE REQUEST: Tag Window Menu additional options
marko:
I am a big fan of the new tag window... however, even after all this time, I still miss these windows for "large edit" fields...
--- Quote from: marko on December 02, 2015, 04:36:36 am ---Here's exactly what I'm talking about regarding large edits...
Today, I was performing some work on the lyrics field of some tracks. Compare the two tagging paths....
The Current Standard
Here, I can open the lyrics field for editing, and see the whole thing, right there, and make edits. I don't need to close the field, selecting the next track saves those edits and presents the lyrics field of the currently selected track, ready for editing...
The Exprerimental
This is where it gets cumbersome...
Initially opening the field for editing is really not fit for purpose, so you need to pop it out, which prevents the next track from being selected until the pop out editor has been closed...
Also, when not 'popped out', putting the mouse inside the small edit field and trying to scroll up and down is horrible as MC can't decide whether to scroll the field being edited, the tag window as whole, or both, which is a source of frustration...
Re. Slowdown
I haven't tested enough to say conclusively yet, but initial testing regarding the slowdown I have been experiencing appears to point at the "All Fields" group as the offending item. Removing that has definitely felt like an improvement.
-marko
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also, I still get bugged, almost daily, that the "Playlists" entry, and "tag dump" entry, which both have their own scroll bars, behave weirdly if the tag window itself also has a scroll bar. When you have the mouse inside the internal window, and scroll the mouse wheel, everything moves. It's just horrible.
JimH:
I removed a post that was badly formatted.
HPBEME:
Hey Marko, I agree 100% with your observations. But the Adv Tag Window is sooooo much better in every other way, I have learned to live with, and frankly gotten used to, simply using the pop-out window to do the large field edits. I assume the large edit fields in the Adv Tag Window are the way they are because they have to for that layout to work properly.
Same goes for the for the wonky dual scrollbar behavior you mentioned - it is not ideal to be sure, but I have learned to live with it.
That said, this is where adding the new option for a Toggle Tag Window Style in the Tag Window Menu (that I requested in the OP) would come in very handy. Instead of closing the tag window, and then relaunching it via shift-clicking in the Action Window Menu to access std tagging, you select the Toggle option from the adv tag window menu you already have open to swap to the Std Tag Window, where doing the large field edits is much more amenable.
markf2748:
--- Quote from: HPBEME on November 19, 2021, 03:02:00 pm ---...swap to the Std Tag Window, where doing the large field edits is much more amenable.
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In what way is the Std Tag Window more suitable than just editing directly in the Adv. Tag Window Lyrics section, especially if it is dragged a little wider? Am I missing something here?
Biggest gripe about editing the Lyrics Tag: When you first choose to do so all the existing lyrics text is automatically highlighted and the window auto-scrolls to the last lines of text, usually hiding most of the preceding text. If you hit any key before deselecting with the mouse - kzammm - your lyrics text is gone and even <CTRL + z> won't bring it back. You better have a backup file to restore from.
Biggest gripe about editing in the Lyrics Popup Window: While listening to the track you lose all control of the playback. So you cannot pause the music, correct lyric, start play again, restart, jump position etc. without first closing the popup window. So I am pretty much forced to do all corrective editing in the Lyrics Tag directly.
I submitted enhancement requests for these in the past, but so far no bananas.
HPBEME:
--- Quote from: markf2748 on November 19, 2021, 05:28:35 pm ---In what way is the Std Tag Window more suitable than just editing directly in the Adv. Tag Window Lyrics section, especially if it is dragged a little wider? Am I missing something here?
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Look at Marko's screenshots comparing the difference. In the std window, when you edit a "large field" (lyrics, bio, etc), it expands to the full height of the tag window. Is this not what you wanted for the tag dump? and the ability to drag the tag window taller than the preset height when both the tree and tag window are shown? This is basically the same thing. Instead of being confined to pre-set smallish block to edit within, you would have the full panel height. THAT is what Marko and myself would like to see in the Adv Tag Window (if it is possible).
As for your other "gripes" (your word):
1) I personally like that it auto-selects everything, but I also hate that it always scrolls to the last line. Not sure why undo (control+z) does not work for you... works fine and every time for me.
2) this is the same thing Marko said in his post.
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