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Ekpen

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3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« on: March 09, 2022, 05:31:44 pm »

Hello TEAM JRiver!
I am happy to read about the good stuff coming our way.
Thanks to ALL that make this possible.
I have a few request.
My 3D library is about 150.
l hate to discard the mkvs.
Anyway to have 3D playback capability via the new JRVR renderer ?
I have old Sony Bravia tvs that can handle 3D, and 3 Bravia tvs with no built in 3D.
i was hoping with my Nvidia rtx 2080ti, driver 510 xx, I should be able to use checkerboard 3D to enable the Bravias that do not have 3D built in.
Of recent, I just started editing the X11.conf file.
I hope MC 29 xxx, will make the 3D feature possible
JH  NOTE:
Keep the hope alive.!!
When the workload  is less, we hope you will let us have a good Android tv gui  that will  let us enjoy MC 29 xx and higher versions
To be honest, a JRemote2 android tv gui or similar app, is needed.
JRemote2 is the Rolls Royce of all remotes.
Thanks again.
George Omoregie.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2022, 01:02:31 am »

We don't currently plan support for 3D playback in JRVR, sorry.
You can use madVR on Windows for 3D playback, it is currently the only way.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2022, 04:53:35 am »

I think ZoneSwitch will be your friend.  Tune up madVR for 3D, and use JRVR for everything else.
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Ekpen

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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2022, 07:53:01 am »

We don't currently plan support for 3D playback in JRVR, sorry.
You can use madVR on Windows for 3D playback, it is currently the only way.
Hello:
Though I do yearly master license, I have my setup on amd64.
In order for me to migrate to linux, i have to stop using Windows.
So, this means no madvr.
Well, I was hoping MC 29 for those of us fitted with Nvidia gpus,mine rtx 2080ti,with nvlink could benefit from 3D,if MC 29 can use custom X11.conf.
The custom X11.conf can have the ability to enable 3D, and also with this file  let non 3D capable tvs use the checkerboard
Can MC29 xxx,trap or use this X11.conf file ?
Lots of features can be enabled or disabled here.
Here, one can enable or disable dual monitor, dual gpus etc.
A look at linux X11.conf file is on hand.
Windows os, and other linux distros have their versions.
Thanks.
George.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2022, 07:54:23 am »

Don't think you'll be able to use 3D at all (if ever) using Media Center on macOS or Linux. Looks like, at least for the time being, it's Windows-only and only with madVR. To be honest, I'd be surprised if that ever changed since 3D is more-or-less dead now - I haven't seen a single brand-new TV released with 3D support in years and Nvidia has dropped support for 3D from their drivers (not sure if AMD still supports it, but I'd assume they'll drop it too if they haven't already).
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2022, 08:24:18 am »

The chances that it'll ever be on Linux or Mac is even smaller, as the 3D decoder we use is a windows binary and integrated into LAV Video - also windows only.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2022, 08:27:41 am »

I think ZoneSwitch will be your friend.  Tune up madVR for 3D, and use JRVR for everything else.
I am no longer on the windows platform.
I left  Windows for linux 6 or 7 years ago
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2022, 09:17:18 am »

The chances that it'll ever be on Linux or Mac is even smaller, as the 3D decoder we use is a windows binary and integrated into LAV Video - also windows only.
Hello:
Thanks a lot for your timely response.
I know you are very busy, and I do not want to be labor this
When you are less busy, please take a look at the Nvidia X11 conf file for all linux disris, abd even for Mac.
The X 11 conf has a lot if options that will benefit those of us with Nvidia gpus.
lots of options to enable ir disable stuffs.
My coding days are long gone.
How about the ability to send RAW data to the renderer ?
How about converting the Windows code for use with Linux and Mac?
If JRiver can convert the entire source code from Windows to Mac and various linux distros, it will be nice for JR management to help get the 3D windows code to linux
Please think about members that have large collections of 3Ds.
How about finding a linux  code - public to use.
I do not use Windows MC, any longer, my daily staple is linux
3D is not dead!!.
Dune 2021 has 3D versions
Wait until Avatar 2 and others show up on 3D.
Just as you have Dolby vision playable on a non dolby vision tvs, same could  be true for non 3D capable tvs playing 3D (checkerboard).
When forum on non forum members find out about this new option ,there is going to be a new request for MC to accommodate this, and it may lead to SALES.
Going back, at one point, MC code was only for Windows
Now ,same code ported to other platforms
Please take a look at your spare time. It may be worth it.
Thanks.

George.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2022, 02:01:40 pm »

Don't think you'll be able to use 3D at all (if ever) using Media Center on macOS or Linux. Looks like, at least for the time being, it's Windows-only and only with madVR. To be honest, I'd be surprised if that ever changed since 3D is more-or-less dead now - I haven't seen a single brand-new TV released with 3D support in years and Nvidia has dropped support for 3D from their drivers (not sure if AMD still supports it, but I'd assume they'll drop it too if they haven't already).
Hello:
3D is not dead.
Nvidia in its latest gou drivers, made provision for 3D to be enabled or disabled.
The Vilkan api ,cross platform does have 3D in it.
how about linux Mesa 3D that can be used with opengl.
MC has opengl,and vulkan built in within yhe JRVR video engine.
The besuty of the X11.conf is,the 3D with checkerboard does not need to have a 3D capability.
The entire  MC  code was Windows os binary, several years, now we have the varios linux distros,, even the source code ported to Mac..
3D capability is tied to Madvr.
Vulkan Api, Opengl,Mesa 3D,all cross platform.
Maybe Mr. H, needs to expose the new JRVR code to see Nvidia X11.conf 0.
Please take the time to download  info on Nvidia's sample conf and necessary commands to enable or disable features.

Thanks.
George.
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Re: 3D for tvs, and for non 3D capable ?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2022, 02:29:20 pm »

I'm sorry, George, but 3D is not something we're likely to do.  I never wanted to do it in the first place.  I remember it coming and going in the 1950's.
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