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[michel]

2. Changed: "Date Created" (and "Year") will be filled from JPG EXIF information when possible.

We need a field for the "real" date, of course. It could be "date created" since MC fills it from EXIF tag. But in case there is not EXIF date how can we set manually the field as it is not editable ?

Fortunately MC doesn't fill "Year" when there is not EXIF information so it is possible to distinguish EXIF "date created" from MC "date created"...

[Matt]

It's sloppy to have both "Date" and "Year", but there are cases where each is needed.  I'm not sure what the best solution is.

[FrankL]

to fix the sloppiness I would very much prefer an option to let the user specify which information is provided when MC fills from the "date created" info.

we should be able to chose:
1.  What the seperator is (i don't like _ i much prefer -)

        2002-11-03 - 01-22-01 (yyyy-mm-dd - hh-mm-ss)
                     is easier to read than
        11_3_2002 1_22 AM

2.  What information should be included (For me the date down to the second is necessary because I take many pictures per minute at times.  Without the seconds in the filename i just get a bunch of files that can't be renamed because MC thinks they are the same file)

    2002-11-03 - 02-29-32.jpg  (yyyy-mm-dd - hh-mm-ss)
    2002-11-03 - 02-29-49.jpg
                  MC renames to:
    11_3_2002 2_29 AM.jpg
    ?  Can't rename this one

3.  Which information comes first.  (For my purposes it is necessary for the year to come first.  My picture collection spans multiple years so when searching through a folder of my pictures that is sorted by name I do not want all of the pictures taken in January at the top, I only want the pictures taken in January of year 2000 at the top and my pictures taken in January 2001 after my pictures in December 2000.)

    2000-01-01 - 02-29-32.jpg  (yyyy-mm-dd - hh-mm-ss)
    2000-12-01 - 02-32-55.jpg
    2001-01-01 - 02-51-06.jpg
                 MC sorts as
    01_1_2000 2_29 AM.jpg
    01_1_2001 2_51 AM.jpg
    12_1_2000 2_32 AM.jpg

4.  There has to be two digits filled by zero if the data is only a single digit!

    11_3_2002 2_29 AM.jpg
               change to
    11_03_2002 02_29 AM.jpg

[michel]

It's sloppy to have both "Date" and "Year", but there are cases where each is needed.  I'm not sure what the best solution is.

The problem comes from [Date created] doesn't mean the same thing for photo and song. To be consistent, it would be preferable to use [Date created] to set the release date of an audio album...

In my opinion

• Full [Date created] (including second) is mandatory.
• MC would fill it automatically from EXIF tag if it exists, otherwise it would not fill it (file creation date is not ever a good date).
• MC would offer a function to 'copy date file -> [Date created]' and also it would offer the ability to set it manually.
• [Year] would be automatically deduced from [Date created] and not stored in the XML tag (only in the DB).
• MC would offer > and < operators to apply on [Date created] to be able to search photos between two dates.

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[Cmagic]

Hi,

I agree with Frankl on dates:

For my purposes it is necessary for the year to come first.

That's a requirement for photo management. I currently use a naming scheme for my pictures such as :
20020816-1626-0876-a--subject_of_the_picture.jpg

where 20020816 is YYYYMMDD (year, month, day), 1626 is HHMM (hour, minutes), 0876 is a sequence number and the 'a' means it is an original image (negative) without any resizing or post processing.

Also michel has a point when saying that we should be able to manualy set the date/time field for picture. I have to do it quite often with scanned images from the good old days. Though I don't alway exactly remember the date !!

C.