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[petaluman]

Thanks in Advance for your help!
I bought an idPi card in 2018, got it up & running on a Pi 3, played around a bit, ... and forgot about it for 5+ years.  I'm running a different PC now.

I recently connected the idPi to the network, but was unable to recall the login/password for Panel.  I did have the one for RDP access, so I could at least do a graceful shutdown.  I'm guessing that I need to install Media Center (or more) on my new desktop, though.

Please let me know what I should do.  My idPi looks to be on version 24.  Will that work with whatever MC version you're on now, or do I need to buy a newer release/use an old MC version? 

[JimH]

Try the update option (12) from the text menu.

[petaluman]

I've been unable to complete that step, or even figure out how to capture the error messages.

When I first RDP in, sometimes a first screen will pop up, with limited graphics & heading JRiver Media Center Id.  It shows an error message - something like

error resolving  jriver.com - name or service not known

Whether that shows up or not, I do eventually end up at the text menu.  After entering 12 there, I get a bunch of fast messages about superid.jriver.com and the RDP window closes.

Please let me know what to try next.

[bob]

Is it plugged into ethernet?
If not, you may try that temporarily at least to be able to run the update.

[petaluman]

How can I tell?

It's connected to my router.  I can RDP in, so it's addressable through my local network.  I can access the internet through various other devices that are connected either wired or wireless (wiifi) to my router.

I think that means the answer to your question is yes, in the physical sense.  What, if anything, needs to be done to get the IdPi to connect to the internet?  This is not the PC that I had when I did the original install 6 years ago.  Is there some software that needs to be loaded on it?

[JimH]

I think he was asking if the network connection is wired or wi-fi.

[bob]

I was wondering if it's connected wired or wireless.
You can do function 11 on the main menu to see the routing table.

It might make sense to send it back to us to update.
That version had an endpoint of MC26 because of the OS limitation so to get anything newer it would need to be recut.

[petaluman]

Sorry – by connected I mean a CAT5 cable directly to the modem/router.  I don’t seem to see the entire screen with my display at 1600x900 or 1920x1080.  I don’t know enough about the inet6 addresses to want to show those lines, but here’s the rest from running option 11:

Upgrade error messaging on rcvr programs to include more data (min vendor#, po#, additional doc#)  inet addr:192.168.1.201  Bcast:192.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0

          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1017 errors:0 dropped:90 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:1632 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:94120 (91.9 KiB)  TX bytes:1613363 (1.5 MiB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr b8:27:eb:ae:ba:8b 
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
192.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U         0 0          0 eth0

Does that help?  Do you need the other 2 lines (and are they safe to publish)?
What is entailed in upgrading the SD card?  What is the OS limitation you mentioned?

Thanks!

[bob]

Sorry – by connected I mean a CAT5 cable directly to the modem/router.  I don’t seem to see the entire screen with my display at 1600x900 or 1920x1080.  I don’t know enough about the inet6 addresses to want to show those lines, but here’s the rest from running option 11:

Upgrade error messaging on rcvr programs to include more data (min vendor#, po#, additional doc#)  inet addr:192.168.1.201  Bcast:192.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0

          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1017 errors:0 dropped:90 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:1632 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:94120 (91.9 KiB)  TX bytes:1613363 (1.5 MiB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr b8:27:eb:ae:ba:8b 
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.254   0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 eth0
192.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U         0 0          0 eth0

Does that help?  Do you need the other 2 lines (and are they safe to publish)?
What is entailed in upgrading the SD card?  What is the OS limitation you mentioned?

Thanks!

Nothing in the output of function 11 is important with regards to security.
It looks to me like the Id is in accesspoint mode, waiting for a phone to connect to it's wireless network so the wifi can be setup.
That means it's not connected to the internet.
That's odd considering you're connecting the ethernet cable.
You might try function 66 (it's a hidden option) from the main menu. That will reset the interfaces and reboot the IdPi.
See if you get an ethernet connection then.

[JimH]

Try using wicd to disable the Wi-fi if you're not using it.  Right click on the desktop to begin or use Network Management from the text menu.

[bob]

Try using wicd to disable the Wi-fi if you're not using it.  Right click on the desktop to begin or use Network Management from the text menu.

If the ethernet has an address wicd won't try to use the wi-fi. It only enables that when there is no ethernet route.

[JimH]

Yes, I agree, but I had a network problem with an Id once that was solved by disabling the inactive network interface.

[petaluman]

Sorry, I haven't had a chance to try these suggestions yet.  When I get a chance, I'll try 66 first with no other changes.

I do have some questions about the wicd command, if 66 alone doen't work:
   1. Is this done from my PC or the idPi text menu?
   2. Does this shut down my wi-fi network entirely?  We have lots of devices using it, so I can only shut it down when no one else is home
   3. If yes to 2, how do I re-enable the wi-fi?

Thanks for your patience!

[bob]

Sorry, I haven't had a chance to try these suggestions yet.  When I get a chance, I'll try 66 first with no other changes.

I do have some questions about the wicd command, if 66 alone doen't work:
   1. Is this done from my PC or the idPi text menu?
   2. Does this shut down my wi-fi network entirely?  We have lots of devices using it, so I can only shut it down when no one else is home
   3. If yes to 2, how do I re-enable the wi-fi?

Thanks for your patience!

Wicd is invoked from options 13 on the IdPi text menu or by right-clicking on the desktop if you are in GUI mode on the IdPi.

[JimH]

It won't affect the rest of your network.

[JimH]

Text menu.
No.