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jctcom:

--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on May 13, 2023, 01:42:02 pm ---I do think the graphics card manufacturers have zero interest though, I mean, why would they? DSD is so niche it'd make no sense if they added support for it or to even consider it to begin with.

Hell probably has a better chance at freezing over. :P

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DSD is actually on the rise again as far as I can tell.  not only are new SACDs still being released but there is a fairly large number of Vinyl transfers and even DSD direct releases that are more common now.

If the market weren't there then DACs would be much less popular than they are now.  If the Video card manufacturers implemented DSD in their cards (And or higher than 24Bit / 192kHz) they would take pretty good chunk of the DAC market share.

Carl

Awesome Donkey:
I simply don't think they'll ever do it. Besides, it's moot when there's already established, and better IMO, ways to playback DSD (both native DSD and DoP, which accomplish the exact same thing in the end).

To the OP, DSD bitstreaming (both native DSD and DoP) in MC has been there for years now, and has worked well. There's also DSD-over-DLNA too, so there's plenty of ways to bitstream DSD. It's not possible to bitstream DSD over HDMI from any computer unfortunately.

jctcom:

--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on May 13, 2023, 02:00:50 pm ---I simply don't think they'll ever do it. Besides, it's moot when there's already established, and better IMO, ways to playback DSD (both native DSD and DoP, which accomplish the exact same thing in the end).

To the OP, DSD bitstreaming (both native DSD and DoP) in MC has been there for years now, and has worked well. There's also DSD-over-DLNA too, so there's plenty of ways to bitstream DSD. It's not possible to bitstream DSD over HDMI from any computer unfortunately.

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Sure with the purchase of extra equipment (DACs etc..) but how many people would not want or need to purchase that extra equipment if it were implemented into their already existing HDMI video card(s).  In fact how many people would rather purchase an HDMI based audio card if it were fully functional for high bitrate files and DSD.

Let's face it a large part of the JRiver users are Audiophiles which are themselves a "Niche" market.  If it were available I believe many of them including myself would rather have an HDMI based high end Audio card or Video card capable of Audiophile quality music transfers rather than have to purchase a dedicated DAC.

Carl.

dtc:
Let's turn this around. All the audio companies need to do is to have a usb input on their receivers that accepts input from a computer. They already have the A to D logic and support DSD, so all they need is the usb connection. Most limit their usb function to input from disks.  It seems like the receiver companies are doing a lot of enhancement for video but their audio development is pretty stagnate beyond incorporating the latest DAC chips that other companies are developing. If anything is going to impact the DAC sales it seems like it would be the receiver companies not the graphics card companies.

Note : The Yamaha R-N2000A Receiver does incorporate a usb for PC connectivity but it pretty expensive.

jctcom:
But most receivers already have the ability to accept DSD from their already existing HDMI ports. It seems to me that accepting a completely different protocol via their USB ports (Of which not all receivers even have) would be a bigger job than just writing a driver for the already existing video cards that are out there.  This is all that would be needed.  An ASIO driver with the proper protocols to send bitstreamed DSD via HDMI.

I believe this is more of a licensing issue.  Sony does not want to implement DSD in a PC because they know that people would use it to create non licensed DSD versions of music such as they did with early versions of the PS3.  Such that Sony created firmware to fully block that ability for the PS3 and all subsequent players that were capable of playing DSD.

If it were not for this we would have DSD capable Video / Audio cards for the PC.

Carl

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