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Issues with BD Menus in MC31-MC33 (primarily with Paramount 4K UHD releases)
JimH:
Fox == AnyDVD ?
Manni:
--- Quote from: JimH on August 15, 2023, 02:43:18 pm ---Fox == AnyDVD ?
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Yes.
Manni:
--- Quote from: JimH on August 15, 2023, 02:40:57 pm ---That software works with something else does not prove or disprove anything. That's how bugs are. They can be triggered by a certain set of circumstances.
So be patient and don't jump to conclusions.
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I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm only reporting that the same 1:1 BD folders rips plays fine with two different hardware players, but don't play with JRiver MC.
I'll let Hendrik conclude if something could/should be done so that JRiver MC supports these titles too, or not.
I've offered to provide the disk structure of one of these titles in order to help reproduce the issue, if Hendrik doesn't have access to any of the recent Paramount 4K UHD titles I've listed.
Anyone with the titles listed above or any recent paramount 4K UHD bluray title can also try to reproduce the issue (play them with JRiver and bluray menus enabled) and report their results, as well as the tool used to rip their title if it's not AnyDVD. That way you might get more data points if needed.
To clarify, I'm not asking for any help or any immediate resolution. I've reported an issue and am happy to help if needed, when/if the developer decides to look into this. That's all.
For now, I'm perfectly happy with Hendrik's reply.
TheShoe:
MakeMKV produces a true 1:1 rip.
AnyDVD will but that depends on the options you have selected. For example. it can modify the rip to attempt to bypass ads (does not always work), and certain key functions that might be disabled by the java code on the disc.
I find lately that when you do that, it can be problematic in some cases.
I don't use AnyDVD except for Lionsgate titles, where playlist obfuscation is often a problem.
Try a rip that does not work, with MakeMKV and see if it makes any difference.
Also - some BD-J titles can take a little time to start up. I've noticed on recent titles if I am patient, it'll eventually load.
Finally - I do full rips for two purposes: 1 - complete backup; 2 - easier to watch the special features. In general, I always create a particle in Media Center to the correct MPLS file and playback from that. It skips all the ads, jumps right to the feature, and if you select the correct playlist, bypasses the playlist obfuscation Lionsgate uses and it supports seamless branching which a straight m2ts playback will not. And you don't need to create an MKV, consuming significantly more space.
Just some thoughts... I'll give a couple of your titles a try and report back my experience
Manni:
--- Quote from: TheShoe on August 15, 2023, 04:18:30 pm ---MakeMKV produces a true 1:1 rip.
AnyDVD will but that depends on the options you have selected. For example. it can modify the rip to attempt to bypass ads (does not always work), and certain key functions that might be disabled by the java code on the disc.
I find lately that when you do that, it can be problematic in some cases.
I don't use AnyDVD except for Lionsgate titles, where playlist obfuscation is often a problem.
Try a rip that does not work, with MakeMKV and see if it makes any difference.
Also - some BD-J titles can take a little time to start up. I've noticed on recent titles if I am patient, it'll eventually load.
Finally - I do full rips for two purposes: 1 - complete backup; 2 - easier to watch the special features. In general, I always create a particle in Media Center to the correct MPLS file and playback from that. It skips all the ads, jumps right to the feature, and if you select the correct playlist, bypasses the playlist obfuscation Lionsgate uses and it supports seamless branching which a straight m2ts playback will not. And you don't need to create an MKV, consuming significantly more space.
Just some thoughts... I'll give a couple of your titles a try and report back my experience
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Thanks. I am not removing anything from the rips when using AnyDVD.
I don't use MC as a front end, only as an external player from CMC, and we all have various reasons for doing things the way we do. :)
I want menus because I have no time to waste to identify the correct playlist, which often doesn't select automatically the correct forced subtitles based on the language chosen through the menus. I want all the extras and I don't mind the ads, watching them takes less time that trying to do it any other way. I rip 1:1 and watch the film as it was intended, with the correct forced subs and access to all the extras.
It would be great if you could try at least one of the titles I listed and report back on the outcome, with the tool used to rip it/them. Thanks!
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