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Issues with BD Menus in MC31-MC33 (primarily with Paramount 4K UHD releases)

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Hendrik:
We can't guarantee playback of all Blu-ray menus. Many of them employ copy-protections or other safeguards that break access in various ways. Some of those can be by-passed, some cannot. Other players may behave differently in presence of those.

I'll try to look at some of those, but as said above, there are no guarantees. And it might just not work.

JimH:

--- Quote from: Manni on August 15, 2023, 10:43:54 am ---I use various tools depending on which one supports each title.

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Please update those tools.  It might help Hendrik if you spelled out what you use.

Manni:

--- Quote from: Hendrik on August 15, 2023, 11:30:53 am ---We can't guarantee playback of all Blu-ray menus. Many of them employ copy-protections or other safeguards that break access in various ways. Some of those can be by-passed, some cannot. Other players may behave differently in presence of those.

I'll try to look at some of those, but as said above, there are no guarantees. And it might just not work.

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As I said, I'm not expecting jriver to play all menus, but usually it does a very good job and only fails rarely.

I'm only reporting an issue that affects most (but not all) recent Paramount UHD Bluray titles. It would be great if you could take a look, but if you don't care you can also leave it that way. For me, menus support is one of the best things about JRiver, so it's an important feature, but I'm sure many users don't use menus so will never notice.

When I refer to other players, I'm referring to both UHD Alliance licensed players (Oppo 203) and non-UHD Alliance licensed players (Dune Pro Vision Solo 4K). This is to confirm that there is nothing wrong with the rip itself, and that both licensed and non-licensed players are able to play the very same rips from these titles. Almost no title fails with the Oppo (as it's licensed), but some titles have minor issues with the Dune. I also report it to them when it's more than a single title (they have cosmetic issues with some Universal menus, JRiver doesn't). JRiver can't play the recent Paramount titles, Dune can. Oppo plays them all without a glich (as it's licensed).

Manni:

--- Quote from: JimH on August 15, 2023, 11:33:16 am ---Please update those tools.  It might help Hendrik if you spelled out what you use.

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I always use the latest version of each tool (fox, fab and makemkv). For these titles, I used the fox, but again it's not relevant as these rips play fine with the Dune and the Oppo.

As I said, my rips are 1:1 (though they are BD folders, not ISO, so not as 1:1 as they could be I guess). I don't remove anything, which can be an issue with some tools.

JimH:

--- Quote from: Manni on August 15, 2023, 12:03:11 pm ---I always use the latest version of each tool (fox, fab and makemkv). For these titles, I used the fox, but again it's not relevant as these rips play fine with the Dune and the Oppo.

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That software works with something else does not prove or disprove anything.  That's how bugs are.  They can be triggered by a certain set of circumstances.

So be patient and don't jump to conclusions.

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