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Subtitle Position with madVR
Bob Sorel:
--- Quote from: Drybonz on April 24, 2024, 09:14:02 am ---Ah... thanks, Bob. I was using positive values to raise them, as it shows on the context menu. I reversed it after reading your tip and it works fine. I guess they weren't going any lower because they would have been off screen? Anyway... thanks for the help.
*edit* Actually, it seems to only work if I enter a value over -20. If I enter -10, there is no change... but if I enter -20, they move way up.
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For me the subs move up on 1% increments. You do have the checkbox for keeping subs within the active area UNCHECKED, right? If you tell me what video(s) you have tried, I will try to recreate it here to see if I have the same problem or not.
Jim, if you want to move the subtitle posts in here into the "Subtitle position" thread in the beta forum, and then move that thread into this forum, it might be helpful so as not to clutter up this thread so much, and we can all continue the discussion there. The posts in the beta forum will probably help people who have questions regarding the new subtitle handling.
Drybonz:
--- Quote from: Bob Sorel on April 24, 2024, 09:41:26 am ---For me the subs move up on 1% increments. You do have the checkbox for keeping subs within the active area UNCHECKED, right?
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I have it unchecked, but I also tried with it checked to see if it made any difference. It seems to be related to movies I have individually changed in the past. For instance, the last one I tried (Pedicab Driver) moves up 10% with the global setting at 5%. I know it moved up 10% because if I then change individual shift setting for that movie down 5% (with the global setting at 10%), it moves back to where it would be with no shift. I'm also finding some movies (Fellini 8 1-2) that do the desired shift with the new global setting. So, it is kind of all over the place. I'm not certain what the difference is.
Bob Sorel:
--- Quote from: Drybonz on April 24, 2024, 09:55:28 am ---I have it unchecked, but I also tried with it checked to see if it made any difference. It seems to be related to movies I have individually changed in the past. For instance, the last one I tried (Pedicab Driver) moves up 10% with the global setting at 5%. I know it moved up 10% because if I then change individual shift setting for that movie down 5% (with the global setting at 10%), it moves back to where it would be with no shift. I'm also finding some movies (Fellini 8 1-2) that do the desired shift with the new global setting. So, it is kind of all over the place. I'm not certain what the difference is.
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Ok, gotcha. Come to think of it, all the titles I used for my tests were not previously set with the OSD system. I am going to do some more experimenting to see if I can figure out what is going on and how to get around it.
Off of the top of my head, I wonder if Hendrik could devise some sort of global subtitle reset switch which would reset all subs back to their original position and discard any previously saved changes from the OSD. I'm suggesting an optional reset switch of some sort, as some people might want to keep the changes that they already made to individuaL titles, while others (like me) would rather discard all of my old changes and simply use the new system. Or, maybe add the subtitle reset to the OSD menu, so that if your old changes are fine, you can just leave them as is, but if the old changes are not playing nice with the global changes, you could just reset the subs and allow the global system to work from the original position. I am just thinking out loud here, as I don't know if these things are even possible, or if it would make things overly complex.
Edit: I just tested OSD previously adjusted subtitles and you are correct, the global adjustment seems to be executed from the previous adjustment. My assumption was that the subtitle would be reset to original position, and THEN the global adjustments would take place, but I am wrong. I have to wonder if it would be possible to add a third global option that would reset the subtitle back to original position (regardless of whether it had been set previously or not), and then execute either/both of the 2 other options if they are enabled. Since the 3 global settings are for the player, they would be executed on the fly every time a video is played since there would be no reason to attach the settings to the files themselves.
Maybe Hendrik could weigh in here... :)
Drybonz:
--- Quote from: Bob Sorel on April 24, 2024, 12:04:45 pm ---Ok, gotcha. Come to think of it, all the titles I used for my tests were not previously set with the OSD system. I am going to do some more experimenting to see if I can figure out what is going on and how to get around it.
Off of the top of my head, I wonder if Hendrik could devise some sort of global subtitle reset switch which would reset all subs back to their original position and discard any previously saved changes from the OSD.
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Thanks, Bob... I'm not 100% sure that is what is causing it... it was just the first possibility that occurred to me. Maybe you will find something, though. The "reset switch" is a good idea, or some general way to remove past individual settings that now have global settings.
Drybonz:
--- Quote from: Hendrik on April 25, 2024, 04:13:31 am ---- Baked in black bars can be handled with black bar detection and cropping in JRVR for a more consistent result.
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I'm using MadVR, so if it depends on the JRVR black bar detection, that may be why I'm getting inconsistent results.
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