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marko:
--- Quote from: Awesome Donkey on November 06, 2024, 08:58:58 am ---I knew she practically didn't have a chance and a big part of it, I believe, is that there's a good number of people out there who don't want/aren't ready for a woman to be president, plain and simple.
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I said these exact words to my wife last night. I long to be proved wrong, but I see no positives in this outcome, none at all.
syndromeofadown:
I visited the USA on the weekend. The first time in many years.
We were not eager to visit because the border crossings were always weird if we got a young person. They appeared a bit mental, but the older aged border guards were always super nice. My wife is French so she had to do iris scans, palm scans, face scan, pay fees, and do a bunch of paper work. Then we were banned for a while for being purebloods. The wife has a Canadian passport now, and it appears we are no longer second class citizens, so we went for a visit.
The border guard, who was young, was very nice and pleasant. We went to Haines. Everyone we met there, local or visiting, was very nice. It was a very enjoyable trip albeit very expensive. Inflation there is insane. Everything was twice the price of Canada which has had everything at least double in price in the last 4 years. It was also concerning that almost all businesses were closed. It is not tourist season so things should be closed, but almost everything had a For Sale sign on it.
Because everything was closed, and the Brewery, Meadery, and Distillery close very early, we ended up watching some American Television. My God. We got the full insanity of your media, and experienced it pre-election.
From an outsider looking in, and by the election results, it appears that the majority of Americans are unhappy with the current administration. Why could this be?
I would think inflation, immigration, lock downs and mandates, Ukraine spending, cognitive abilities and the hiding of these abilities, election integrity, sanctions that only hurt Americans, Afghanistan evacuation, “Russian interference”, the “insurrection”, the summer of love, de dollarisation, war on food and farming, skipping primaries, Peanut the squirrel, lawfare against political opponents, a certain laptop, DEI in everything including high level politicians and judges, censorship, taxes, net zero. Just to name a few.
Is life better now than in 2016-2020? Perhaps for some, life is not better, and they think life will be better under Trump. This does not make them low IQ, racist, misogynist, or members of the socialist party of Germany in the first half of the century.
The left’s campaign appeared to be focused almost entirely on identity. Vote for a woman, vote for a person of colour, abortions for all, abortions, diddy list celebrity endorsements, abortions, joy, abortions, anyone but trump. Fine whatever, but perhaps people not interested in the genitalia and skin colour of their leaders are tired of being called Nazis. Maybe calling people Nazis over and over dehumanizes them and can lead to unhinged people turning to violence to stop these "Nazis".
I would be more worried about who has bailed Trump out in the past. Surely, he is owned by them / him. What are his connections to big tech? I’m looking at you Mike Pence. What are his connections with Musk the snake in the grass who is trying to turn twitter into WeChat social credit app. What will happen when your dollar fails? Maybe there will be a WeChat like app to take over.
There are lots of reasons to vote for someone. In your Coke Pepsi elections people can only pick what they perceive to be the lesser of 2 evils, or the person that will make their life better. Life has sucked pretty badly for a lot of people for the last 4 years, it makes sense to me that they want a change. I hope people can tolerate this idea, as there has been a lot of intolerance over the last 4 years.
bob:
The total votes that Trump won by in MI, WI and PA COMBINED were 120k. 100k in MI alone choose uncommitted in the primary because of Gaza. One in five said they were factoring that into whether or not to vote. 80% of dems support a ceasefire but Harris choose to double down on Gaza, sent clowns like Bill Clinton and Richie Torres to scold Arabs and Muslims in MI and run with neocons like Liz Cheney. Embracing the Cheney's always had a 0% chance of working.
Note that Harris ran a distant 3rd in Dearborn MI which pre-Gaza Biden won with 80%
Choosing to ignore economic issues also cost the dems. Harris got crushed in Missouri which voted for BOTH a minimum wage increase and abortion rights.
Of course Harris couldn't run on the minimum wage increase (which Biden ran on and didn't deliver) because her Wall Street donor class didn't want it.
With a turnout of 17 million less than the last election it's surprising that it was even that close.
astromo:
Well, at least the numbers align the popular and electoral college vote. So, as they say in politics, "Congratulations to the winner".
Plus, those voting for Trump should have no illusions what sort of person they voted for thanks to experience. With the likely situation that the house will stay in Republican hands, the next two years will see how much of the various "concepts of a plan" will be implemented and what effect they will have in reality. The time for guessing and prediction will be over. If the hip pocket voting that has helped determine the outcome proves reliable, then the US will end up in a better place in dollar terms at least. I'm not convinced because it's unclear how much of what Trump has said on the election trail will actually come to pass. So, as noted before, nothing beats an empirical test.
jmone:
I lean toward "Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs" in how a person will vote:
- When the economy is going "great", a voter will tend to focus on the higher level issues (Self-Actualization, Self-Esteem, Love and Belonging)
- When the economy is not going "great", a voter will tend to focus on the lower level issues (Safety and Security, Physiological Needs)
I think (this time around) more voters were concerned about the lower level issues and hence the swing.
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