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POLL: Who Should Represent the Democratic Party for the Presidency Now?
Bob Sorel:
--- Quote from: craigmcg on July 22, 2024, 05:13:54 pm ---As a Canadian, I want the USA to stay as a democracy that doesn't invade or annex it's neighbours and maintains its longstanding participation/leadership in NATO and other alliances. Extreme Republicans/MAGAts winning the Presidency, House, and Senate would preclude that especially since the Supremes' ruling on both immunity and the reversal of the Chevron ruling.
From a "fantasy football" perspective, the ticket that my wife and I would like to see is Harris-Buttigieg as they are both great communicators, would leave critical Senators/Governors in place where they are most needed in the near future, and would offer a California "progressive leaning"along with a midwest former "centrist mayor". If we could vote in USA elections, they would have our votes!
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Yeah, that would be a great combo! Pete maintains his cool under all circumstances and is very intelligent and well spoken. And the cherry on top is that the president would be a black/Asian woman with a gay vice president, MAGA's worst nightmare team.... ;D
FenceMan:
Please tell me I am not the only conservative here.
To answer the question though - no one should have been chosen, they should have figured out a way to have real people vote on the new candidate - you know Democracy and all.
Even BLM is calling this a dictatorship move, can't be good for Democrats when that happens.
FenceMan:
--- Quote from: Bob Sorel on July 22, 2024, 07:30:44 pm ---Yeah, that would be a great combo! Pete maintains his cool under all circumstances and is very intelligent and well spoken. And the cherry on top is that the president would be a black/Asian woman with a gay vice president, MAGA's worst nightmare team.... ;D
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Spoken by someone who I assume has never been to South Bend, IN lol.
FenceMan:
--- Quote from: craigmcg on July 22, 2024, 05:13:54 pm ---As a Canadian, I want the USA to stay as a democracy that doesn't invade or annex it's neighbours and maintains its longstanding participation/leadership in NATO and other alliances. Extreme Republicans/MAGAts winning the Presidency, House, and Senate would preclude that especially since the Supremes' ruling on both immunity and the reversal of the Chevron ruling.
From a "fantasy football" perspective, the ticket that my wife and I would like to see is Harris-Buttigieg as they are both great communicators, would leave critical Senators/Governors in place where they are most needed in the near future, and would offer a California "progressive leaning"along with a midwest former "centrist mayor". If we could vote in USA elections, they would have our votes!
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You do realize Trump was already president for 4 years and never invaded Canada.
I probably should stop responding since the thought of the US invading Canada because you think the Supreme Court somehow made that legal is beyond laughable and if you truly believe that you are beyond gulliable.
Did "extreme MAGA's" just participate in a coup against the sitting President? No I don't think that was us.... Think about it, the reason this topic exists is because a duly elected President of the United States was forced off the ticket because......he might have lost.
mwillems:
--- Quote from: FenceMan on July 24, 2024, 08:05:46 am ---Did "extreme MAGA's" just participate in a coup against the sitting President? No I don't think that was us.... Think about it, the reason this topic exists is because a duly elected President of the United States was forced off the ticket because......he might have lost.
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So I'll probably regret responding because you seem to have a lot of assumptions baked into your posts that I don't share, but this just isn't a fair description of what happened at all.
Joe Biden had the delegates bound to him. No one was, legally, able to force him off the ticket. All anyone could do was ask him to drop out and apply social pressure in public or in private. Donors could also refuse to donate. Which is to say, all those people could exercise their first amendment rights with respect to his candidacy, but no one could make him do anything. He chose to step down for his own reasons, most probably because he didn't fancy his own chances without the support of his party, donors, and even his own friends.
Calling it a "coup" is ridiculous hyperbole. Coups are an illegal or extra-legal regime change prompted by violence or the threat of violence. There's none of that here (Joe Biden, the duly elected president, is still president). Just a lot of suasion (of the kind specifically protected by the first amendment) and a hard choice at the top.
Was it a coup when Republican congressmen told Nixon behind closed doors that they'd impeach him if he didn't resign?
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