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JimH:
If we want to see a less confrontational future in the U.S., it might start by avoiding "crazy" or by not dismissing what someone else said. Why not say, "I don't agree." ?
I'm leaving this thread open in the hope that it heads toward higher ground.
craigmcg,
I commend you for dialing the rhetoric back and for an apology. It doesn't often happen here. Thank you.
FenceMan:
--- Quote from: JimH on July 25, 2024, 07:19:11 am ---If we want to see a less confrontational future in the U.S., it might start by avoiding "crazy" or not dismissing what someone else said. Why not say, "I don't agree." ?
I'm leaving this thread open in the hope that it heads toward higher ground.
craigmcg,
I commend you for dialing the rhetoric back and for an apology. It doesn't often happen here. Thank you.
--- End quote ---
Come on now. Saying we are going to invade Canada goes far beyond "I don't agree", that is clearly a crazy statement. Not only is the statement crazy it's the exact kind of rhetoric that has been used to dehumanize Donald Trump which really isn't helpful in a world where people literally try to murder the man. You can't call someone Hitler and say they are going to ruin Democracy and invade Canada without consequences. If you demonize someone so much that people get the idea that he HAS to be stopped to save the world than anything is on the table for some people (I am not saying that is what happened, we don't know that).
I watch and listen to both liberal and conservative media and I don't hear anyone on the conservative side calling the President names like Hitler or threat to democracy or anything of the sort. He has certainly been called inept, old, a bad President, etc but no one is saying he needs to be stopped at all costs - that rhetoric comes exclusively from the liberal side so while I appreciate that the rhetoric should be toned down on BOTH sides you have to recognize the damage your side has done by dehumanizing a father, a grandfather, to the point that someone thinks he is going to get elected and just start invading countries to try and take over the world.
Liberals say we need to put Trump in jail or have him removed from the ballot because he has to be stopped at all costs.
Conservatives say we need to win Michigan.
See the difference?
JimH:
Has Trump agreed to abide by the outcome of the election?
Is his word any good?
He is "slightly" self centered. And has a few loose screws.
Strikes 1, 2, & 3. And 4.
5. Convicted Felon.
6. On the verge of bankruptcy. Court judgements totalling close to a billion dollars.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/07/donald-trump-legal-cases-charges/675531/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/16/how-will-trump-pay-trial-penalties
Giuliani, his now-under-the-Trump-bus "lawyer" owes $148 million for lies he spread about two election workers.
His Fox News cheerleaders settled the Dominion (voting machines) case for $787 million.
Wherever he goes, he takes people down and walks away.
He's a thief, a liar, a con man, has no sense of ethics or decency.
What did I leave out? Crazy?
I look forward to reading the news without the mention of his name. I'm afraid it will be a while.
JimH:
Closing this now.
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