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[Matt]

This is the latest build of JRiver Media Center 33.  Please post bugs here.  Please start a new thread for anything requiring discussion.  Non-bug posts will be deleted.

Download 64-bit build
https://files.jriver-cdn.com/mediacenter/channels/v33/latest/MediaCenter330013-x64.exe (works on 64 bit systems only)

Download 32-bit build
https://files.jriver-cdn.com/mediacenter/channels/v33/latest/MediaCenter330013.exe (works on all systems)

33.0.13 (8/15/2024)

1. NEW: Playing Now Popup can output an image or text file for external processing (upload, etc.).

33.0.12 (8/12/2024)

1. Fixed: YouTube clip playback works better (was trying to get URLs that would not always resolve).
2. Changed: Added option for Playing Now Popup keyboard shortcut to be global.
3. Changed: The keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+I) closes the Playing Now Popup if it is currently displayed.

33.0.11 (8/8/2024)

1. Changed: DSP Presets now include the setting for whether a VST effect should be on or off.
2. Fixed: Loading DSP Presets for conversion could crash when loading some VST3 effects.
3. Changed: Playing Now Popup now supports real background transparency (Windows-only).

33.0.10 (8/6/2024)

1. Changed: [pn_mcversion] can now be used in Playing Now Popup expression to display the current MC version.
2. Changed: Re-designed the refresh rate tracking in JRVR for a more accurate VideoClock behavior.
3. Changed: Added Close to Playing Now Popup context menu.

33.0.9 (8/1/2024)

1. Changed: Library backup when connected to a library server makes a settings only backup (requires only checking the settings box when you restore).

33.0.8 (7/30/2024)

1. Changed: Playing Now Popup skin now accepts BackColor="Transparent" to simulate background transparency for the window.
2. Changed: The extra channels in Parametric Equalizer load the number configured and show exactly that many.
3. Fixed: The Playing Now Popup settings dialog could have multiple instances open.
4. Changed: The order channels Parametric Equalizer effect better supports the new extra channels configurations.
5. Fixed: Showing the playing now popup from the right-click menu Settings could crash when closing the dialog.
6. Fixed: YouTube playback was not working.
7. Changed: Slovak translation updated (thanks Peter Lukáč).
8. Fixed: Fixed a potential crash when stopping JRVR playback.

33.0.7 (7/25/2024)

1. Changed: Slovak translation updated (thanks Peter Lukáč).
2. Changed: Added option for Playing Now Popup skins to have mouse over ignore transparent areas of images.
3. Fixed: Improved resilience to transient VSYNC measurement changes in JRVR.
4. Fixed: Resolved a timing issue in JRVR that would result in erroneous dropped frames.

33.0.6 (7/24/2024)

1. Fixed: Improved resilience to timing fluctuation in JRVRs new presentation mode.

[Matt]

33.0.5 (7/23/2024)

1. Fixed: Pressing escape after showing all the tag suggestions would not work nicely.
2. Changed: Added an option "Advance tracks when stopping after" so track advancement can be configured.
3. Changed: Re-designed how JRVR interacts with hardware decoders to decouple decoding and rendering.

33.0.4 (7/18/2024)

1. Fixed: Playing Now Popup would grab focus when displayed.
2. Changed: Made some change to font rendering to better preserve monospace behavior in Theater View when mixing different formatting.
3. Changed: Disabled the new JRVR Presentation mode by default until more work can be done on it.
4. Fixed: The Playing Now popup could show when reordering tracks in Playing Now.
5. Changed: Switched back to making the new channel system optional since it requires a one-time update to some Parametric Equalizer effects.
6. Changed: The new channel layout system defaults to on (and moved settings, so will need to be turned off when wanted).

33.0.3 (7/16/2024)

1. Changed: Analyzer in DSP Studio includes channels not marked as having data (like extra channels) because they could get filled by other DSP.
2. Changed: Extra channels could appear two ways in Parametric Equalizer.
3. Changed: Updated Greek translation (thanks Panagiotis).
4. Changed: Updated German translation file (thanks Bytestar).
5. Fixed: MC would sometimes crash after moving the Playing Now Popup.
6. Changed: JRVR shows upload and render queue sizes on the OSD for performance tracking.

33.0.2 (7/13/2024)

1. Changed: Added another Playing Now Popup skin that shows 3 tracks (previous, current, next) that can all be rated.
2. Changed: Updated FFmpeg used for video analysis, transcoding, and playback.
3. Changed: Updated the JRVR Frame Time log for the new presentation method, as well as improved its decoupling from the rendering to avoid interference.
4. Changed: Playing Now Popup - Added size/scaling and "always on top" settings.
5. Changed: Playing Now Popup - Only display for audio files and for track changes when not stopped.
6. Changed: Playing Now Popup - Click on popup text when done moving to show normally.
7. Fixed: Playing Now Popup - Pressed image was not displaying at the proper times.

33.0.1 (7/3/2024)

1. NEW: Introduced a new default presentation mode for JRVR that presents several frames in advance, one for every VSYNC, for more accuracy and better timing.
2. Changed: JRVR will try to restore monitor profiles if the monitor ID changes.
3. Changed: Updated Spanish translation (thanks Leandro Botella Penalva).
4. Changed: What was the new extra channels mode in the previous version is now the only extra channels mode.
5. Fixed: Improved rendering of text with italics at large sizes, which could result in some pixels being cut off.
6. Changed: Updated all translations to the latest strings from the code.
7. NEW: Added customizable Playing Now popup window that displays at track change and playback resume.  Ctrl+I is the default shortcut to show it manually.

[whoareyou]

I use Hang Loose Convolver VST3 for my convolution filters(don't know if it makes difference).  While playing audio, and only on first time opening DSP dialog, the DSP dialog just closes up on its own.  Subsequent openings of DSP dialog seem to not close up on their own.

More concerning
I've had a couple of instances where, regardless of internal volume setting,  I've been blasted with what seems 100% internal volume.  I ended up turning volume control on DAC way, way down because of this.   I'm really not sure what causes this, but it's a bit disconcerting.  One time I accidentally mapped a channel to itself when I had the volume burst (mix channels source and destination were the same channel),  but I'm pretty sure issue also occured without this incorrect mix configuration.

Also, not sure if this is defect or not with new channel system.  I have a 10 channel convolution.  The input material is 10 channel wav audio,  all 10 channels contain audio. If I set channels to 10 channels or "source" all works as expected.  10 channels go to DAC and convolution is perfect.   When I specify 5.1 with 4 extra channels, the convolution VST seems to "think" there are 10 channels, but it doesn't seem to receive the extra channel's audio i.e. the 4 extra channels seem to be empty. 
I expected all 10 channels of audio would be be passed to the convolution as is, but the 4 "extra" channels seem to be missing.
It also works this way in version 32, but I was hoping with tne new channel mapping this behavior would be different.
If the system could process a 5.1 container together with the 4 extra channels, I'd be able to play all format 10, 5.1 4.0 5.0 properly within one zone.

Thanks

[markf2748]

Some inconsistencies in behavior of the Playing Now Popup (PNP) Control Skin:

(1) The Pause button never shows up on the PNP (though the pause action works by clicking on PNP's play button).

In the main Player Bar (upper left corner) the Play button gets replaced with the Pause button once music starts playing, as everyone expects.  This does not happen in the PNP for the identical Play button, so it is confusing.

Note:  MC's taskbar tooltip controls exhibit the same behavior as the PNP controls.  I eventually got got used to it, made easier precisely because their appearance is distinctly different from my skinned Player Bar controls.  It's good to see the Standard View and Mini View controls are consistently stateful.

(2) Set PNP to "Show when track changes or playback starts/resumes".  Does not work in a MC Player view tab when double clicking a paused track in the Content Panel's lower track list.  Ciicking a different track than the currently paused track works.  Works with the space bar, with the Player Bar upper left Pause/Play button, and with the tray icon pop up.

Note:  In view tabs other than Player, double clicking a paused track brings up the PNP as expected. 

(3) The setting "Global keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+I ...)" does not stick in the PNP.  Restarting MC does not help.  Ctrl+I works within MC, independent of the checkbox state, but never works outside of the MC window.

Note: Example of another program stealing the "global" shortcut:  Ctrl+I is apparently the Firefox browser's keyboard shortcut for Page Info.  It is active when the Firefox browser window has focus.

8/17/2024:  Multiple revisions for clarity.

Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Win 10 Pro & Home 64-bit | MC 33.0.13

[RockyMalerbo]

Sorry to see visualizations still isn't working.

[bogdanbz]

I used this build today and I experienced random visual glitches, similar to the ones you get when there are decoding errors.
It did not matter if I used the new presentation mode or the old one.

I switched to MC32 and I had no more glitches. I had no glitches on the previous public MC33 build either.

[Awesome Donkey]

If the AVs have a feature to submit false positive reports, it might be a good idea to do that to get it resolved faster. Generally AV vendors will give more attention to reports from their own customers versus if someone at JRiver contacted them to report it, at least it may be resolved sooner coming from a customer of the AV's report. Avast/AVG are owned/developed by the same company, so it doesn't surprise me there's a false positive detection with both.

So annoying to hear AVs like Avast/AVG are still straight flagging apps signed with an EV certificate without any sort of required sample submission for deeper analysis (as chance of a false positive with an app signed with an EV cert seems more likely), it just mind boggles a little.

[ppataki]

It seems that VST latency compensation has been turned off in version 33
I just installed v33 and my video/audio is totally out of sync
I am using linear phase VST plugins that cause a significant audio delay but in v32 it works fine
Maybe there are some settings in v33 that I need to change?
Thank you

[narbi]

The issues I had on some pal discs (Mylene Farmer live 2019, the art of flight) seem to be gone when I activate the new presentation mode, sounds promising.

[John-NZ]

Updgraded two Window 10 PC's today. Both fail to play sound "Something went wrong with playback". A PC with version 32 works fine.

[JimH]

John-NZ.  Audio Setup on the wiki.

[hbarfarkle]

Where is the MAC Version?

[thecrow]

Where is the MAC Version?

In the JRiver Media Center 33 for Mac forum - https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,139484.0.html
This is the Windows forum

[pmatkinson]

AVG flags a "FileRepMalvare [Misc]" and quarantines the file.

[joness011]

Since using the 'resample uncommon sample rates option', i cannot change the sample rate of audio driver in windows, even if i revoke exclusive access to the audio driver. After further testing, only seems to apply to the Realtek HD audio driver.

Reported the issue to Microsoft also.

[JimH]

AVG flags a "FileRepMalvare [Misc]" and quarantines the file.

Avast also flags it as infected...

It's a false positive.  Report it to the provider.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,139492.0.html

[bogdanbz]

I used this build today and I experienced random visual glitches, similar to the ones you get when there are decoding errors.
It did not matter if I used the new presentation mode or the old one.

I switched to MC32 and I had no more glitches. I had no glitches on the previous public MC33 build either.

I had one glitch with MC32 as well, which never happened before, so I'm not sure what's going on but it might not be related to MC33 after all.

[JimH]

Matroska Tags:  https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,139504.msg967247.html#msg967247

[charmerci]

I get "No access..." messages on my second download saying that I "may need permission..."

I've already downloaded a first copy on my more recent computer.

[JimH]

I get "No access..." messages on my second download saying that I "may need permission..."

I've already downloaded a first copy on my more recent computer.

https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,139492.0.html

[cncb]

Some inconsistencies in behavior of the Playing Now Popup (PNP) Control Skin:

1) Yes, it does not change buttons based on play state.  No plans to change that yet.

2) This is a special case where you are not resuming (it starts over from the beginning) and the track does not change, but I will see if we can handle it better.

3) Are you saying this option does not get saved properly?  It seems to be working for me.

[pbpcn7]

Hi -

Version 33 will not play my old WMA files. Version 32 plays them just fine. They both play my FLAC files. I set up 33 the same way I have for previous versions and WMA is set to Automatic in File Types. Any suggestions?

[markf2748]

1) Yes, it does not change buttons based on play state.  No plans to change that yet.

The current default appearance violates my basic design rule "buttons which look the same should behave the same" - otherwise they are jarring.  So I will try skinning the PNP Controls (particularly the Play button) to look the same as the MC Taskbar Tooltip controls (distinct from my custom Player Bar controls) until things change.

2) This is a special case where you are not resuming (it starts over from the beginning) and the track does not change, but I will see if we can handle it better.

Thanks.  From this user's perspective, the special pause case looks like all the other pause or startup cases as described above.  So PNP activated by a double click in a Player view tab should certainly be fixed to behave as the other cases to meet user expectations.

Clarifications:
In general, none of the following trigger the PNP:  double click the Previous button (rewind track and start over from the beginning), long hold it (fast backwards), grab the progress bar and slide it to a new position.  These are logically consistent (all related to positioning) and OK as is.

Re:  Double clicking the track listing (rewinds and starts over except not in Player view, or starts playing a new track).  I think most people would expect (and prefer?) this double click to trigger the PNP in all views, including Player, even when restarting the currently playing track.  However I can see there is some logic in treating Player views differently (i.e. no PNP for restart), though it's kind of subtle and puzzled me at first.  I think I might actually prefer the way it is now, particularly when editing lyrics - so maybe an option?

3) Are you saying this option does not get saved properly?  It seems to be working for me

Yes, that's what I am saying.
a) Open the PNP settings, check the box "[ ]Global shortcut... Ctrl+I" and "[x ]" check mark appears.
b) Click "OK" to save the settings.
c) Reopen the PNP settings after clicking on next track.  The option is no longer check marked.
Restarting MC before clicking next track did not change matters.
Pause play then play same track did not change matters.

8/19/2024 Edits for clarity.

[cncb]

Yes, that's what I am saying.

Are you using a "non-admin" Windows user account?

[markf2748]

Are you using a "non-admin" Windows user account?

No - it is an admin account.
Also tried explicitly running MC as Administrator.  No difference.

Where is this state info stored?  Could the location be write-protected or non-existent on my PCs?  Would you expect a write fail to show up in the log?

I see same behavior on Win 11 Pro and Win 10 Pro & Home.

[cncb]

No - it is an admin account.
I see same behavior on Win 11 Pro and Win 10 Pro & Home.

I see the same behavior on a spare PC, so I will work on it.  Thanks.

[ppataki]

Are there any news on this? Are there others experiencing the same?
Thank you

It seems that VST latency compensation has been turned off in version 33
I just installed v33 and my video/audio is totally out of sync
I am using linear phase VST plugins that cause a significant audio delay but in v32 it works fine
Maybe there are some settings in v33 that I need to change?
Thank you

[markf2748]

Inconsistency in the Playing Now Popup 3-Track Skin -

LMB Click once on the PNP skin's <<PREV Track Thumbnail:  Sometimes the player jumps back 1 track as expected, but much of the time it restarts the currently playing track without jumping to the previous track.  Very inconsistent action.

LMB Click once on the PNP skin's NEXT>> Track Thumbnail:  Always jumps the player ahead by 1 track as expected.  Quick reliable action.

I see same behavior on three different Windows PCs.  Occurs in both Player view tab and other view tabs.

Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Win 10 Pro 64-bit | Win 10 Home 64-bit

[cncb]

Inconsistency in the Playing Now Popup 3-Track Skin -

LMB Click once on the PNP skin's <<PREV Track Thumbnail:  Sometimes the player jumps back 1 track as expected, but much of the time it restarts the currently playing track without jumping to the previous track.  Very inconsistent action.

LMB Click once on the PNP skin's NEXT>> Track Thumbnail:  Always jumps the player ahead by 1 track as expected.  Quick reliable action.

I see same behavior on three different Windows PCs.  Occurs in both Player view tab and other view tabs.

Check your setting in MC:

Tools > Options > General > Behavior > Previous Button and make sure it is set to Previous Track always.

[markf2748]

Check your setting in MC:

Tools > Options > General > Behavior > Previous Button and make sure it is set to Previous Track always.

Thanks, cool, that works much better but...

It's puzzling that with "CD Player Style" the Playing Now Popup response seemed so inconsistent.  I certainly tried double left clicking many times over, at various speeds, and never figured out what was going on.  In retrospect, the PNP "<<PREV" in this mode still seems hit and miss, very sensitive to the time delay between left clicks and the number of times it is applied in a row.  The Playerbar Previous button is much more robust.  You may want to look at that, maybe there is some popup limitation with double clicks.

If this can't be resolved, then always run PNP in "Previous Track" and apply the option only for the Playerbar Previous button.  "<<PREV" labeling leads one to expect "Previous Track" anyway, and that would be my preference, while running PlayerBar in "CD Player Style".

[mdav]

The screen goes completely black when playing DVD ifo files (25 fps). The program doesn't crash, but shows no movie. Sound is still playing.

I have tried with both presentation queue on or off with same result.

[cncb]

It's puzzling that with "CD Player Style" the Playing Now Popup response seemed so inconsistent.  I certainly tried double left clicking many times over, at various speeds, and never figured out what was going on.  In retrospect, the PNP "<<PREV" in this mode still seems hit and miss, very sensitive to the time delay between left clicks and the number of times it is applied in a row.  The Playerbar Previous button is much more robust.  You may want to look at that, maybe there is some popup limitation with double clicks.

If this can't be resolved, then always run PNP in "Previous Track" and apply the option only for the Playerbar Previous button.  "<<PREV" labeling leads one to expect "Previous Track" anyway, and that would be my preference, while running PlayerBar in "CD Player Style".

This works very consistently for me with the CD Player Style.  Slow clicking works best.  Click once and wait for it to jump to the beginning then click again and it goes to the previous track.  But I think it makes sense for the 3-Track skin to always go previous so I will make that change.